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Old 12-11-2005, 06:46 AM   #1
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I hate to do this to you guys - drama, but I wish I hadnt :(

So, I bought Chio's blog script, as a lot of you did I paid $70 + for it. I later downloaded it for free as its a GPL script is available to anyone.

I gave him every opportunity to make it right. I ICQed him and told him that maybe his script guy had made a mistake. He told me that this was the case and that he would put it it right.

Of course that was the last I heard.

Im not going to go into any more detail - if you have lost cash then hit me up.

This really is the most upsetting post I have ever made.
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Old 12-11-2005, 06:48 AM   #2
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I'd like to hear Chio's side of the story.
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Old 12-11-2005, 06:49 AM   #4
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That is shity news for such a great day.

Maybe you could give us the link to the gpl script, i'm interested.
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This is your most upsetting post ever? Wow.
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Old 12-11-2005, 06:56 AM   #8
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You should have bought MY gpl script for 45.

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Old 12-11-2005, 06:57 AM   #9
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Not that I don't sympathize, but I would pay NOT to be exposed to Chio's blog.

I've been looking for the perfect Chio filter for years! I don't want to see that fucker or read any of his crap, ever.

Good god, you didn't really pay to read his crap? Please tell me you didn't.
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Old 12-11-2005, 06:57 AM   #10
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What is the link to the GPL?
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ouch hope to hear Chios side on this
I have to say that I do as well - I really do. It took me a lot of soul searching and a lot of advice from others to make this post.
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by it being a GPL script do you mean they unknowingly or mistakenly distributed it under the GP license? Or that it was a pre-existing script somewhere released under the GPL and changed, then re-sold/re-marketed by Chio ?
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Old 12-11-2005, 07:05 AM   #14
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by it being a GPL script do you mean they unknowingly or mistakenly distributed it under the GP license? Or that it was a pre-existing script somewhere released under the GPL and changed, then re-sold/re-marketed by Chio ?
The latter....
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The latter....
Yikes.. this could get ugly. Hoping Chio wakes up early and provides his side of things..
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Old 12-11-2005, 07:09 AM   #16
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The latter....
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Old 12-11-2005, 07:11 AM   #17
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The latter....
If true, then perhaps he modified/improved it and is claiming rights to it.
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Sorry to hear,
not a great start to a Sunday morning.
I look forward to the other side of this ?
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Old 12-11-2005, 07:12 AM   #19
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What is the link to the GPL?
The main script is from here - http://projects.radgeek.com/feedwordpress/

The second is a dif GPL script that has been hacked to make it work together.

I will look it up.
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If true, then perhaps he modified/improved it and is claiming rights to it.
You cannot incorporate GPL-covered software in a proprietary system. The goal of the GPL is to grant everyone the freedom to copy, redistribute, understand, and modify a program. If you could incorporate GPL-covered software into a non-free system, it would have the effect of making the GPL-covered software non-free too.
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You cannot incorporate GPL-covered software in a proprietary system. The goal of the GPL is to grant everyone the freedom to copy, redistribute, understand, and modify a program. If you could incorporate GPL-covered software into a non-free system, it would have the effect of making the GPL-covered software non-free too.
WRONG!

wake up people, GPL does not mean free
as long as he provided you the source and didn't claim rights on the gpl
part all is fine!
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If true, then perhaps he modified/improved it and is claiming rights to it.
The thing is:
Changes to a script with a GPL license may only be sold if the changes are also released as GPL. So if one is selling a GPL script or one based on a GPL script one must give out the source code of the script to anyone who asks. If the source code is not freely available then one can sue the author.
But:
I'm not sure if this is also the case in this situation, cause we likely are not hearing the full story.
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WRONG!

wake up people, GPL does not mean free
as long as he provided you the source and didn't claim rights on the gpl
part all is fine!
That was not some fun response that I made up for shits and giggles. It was a direct quote from the GPL's FAQ. Once a portion of software is protected under GPL, it cannot be added to software that is sold. Read up

http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq....prietarySystem
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$70 doesn't even fill up a gas tank nowadays. time to move on
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$70 doesn't even fill up a gas tank nowadays. time to move on
actually I saw Juicy ask for a 40 domain license - thats what swung it for me.
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I'm sure there is a good explanation
Let's see what chio has to say.
Are you certain it is the same source code?
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That was not some fun response that I made up for shits and giggles. It was a direct quote from the GPL's FAQ. Once a portion of software is protected under GPL, it cannot be added to software that is sold. Read up

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wow really ?
then RedHat must be in the wrong since it changed to paid right ?
it has a lot of gpl software in it

read again
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wow really ?
then RedHat must be in the wrong since it changed to paid right ?
it has a lot of gpl software in it

read again
"Except for a few components provided by third parties (like Java) all the code in Red Hat products is open source and licensed under the GPL (or a similar license, such as the LGPL). So you always have free access to the source code. In fact you can download the source code from our FTP servers at any time."
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You're paying for the compiled binaries and/or RHEL's subscription services. Any GPL application, in order to be licensed under the GPL, MUST... repeat MUST.. freely distribute their source code
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Yes this is true. My coder when writing the script for *me* used a couple of the plugins as a basis. Much later when we decided to start selling the script it was completely forgotten about, as the code had so much added, and changed. I did make an announcement after I heard from Damian, and spoke to my coder about it, that we were rewriting the complete script from scratch. I also told damian the same on ICQ. So not sure why he says I haven't said anything.

here's the post: http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=...ht=autoblogger

I have also stated all along the autoblogger was based on scripts I used for wp. The problems I had was they didn't work together. This is why I asked my coder to write a version for me.

The newest version which was supposed to have been done within a couple of days. Most likely will available within a few days.
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how would you know?

do you ask the bus driver?
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how would you know?

do you ask the bus driver?

yes i did, your wife was a big help.
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I have to say that I do as well - I really do. It took me a lot of soul searching and a lot of advice from others to make this post.

Hmmm. So you didn't get my icq's where I explained I spoke to the coder, and he was rewriting it from scratch? You also didn't see the announcement I made regarding it being rewritten?
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Hmmm. So you didn't get my icq's where I explained I spoke to the coder, and he was rewriting it from scratch? You also didn't see the announcement I made regarding it being rewritten?

i saw the announcement chio
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yes i did, your wife was a big help.
that so?

your mother is a filthy mexican whore. she does donkey shows in beanerville to support your fathers crack habbit.
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that so?

your mother is a filthy mexican whore. she does donkey shows in beanerville to support your fathers crack habbit.


what college did you go to again? your writing skills are impressive
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Hmmm. So you didn't get my icq's where I explained I spoke to the coder, and he was rewriting it from scratch? You also didn't see the announcement I made regarding it being rewritten?
To be honest Chio I didnt

I also didnt get the message that my money had been refunded, and I doubt anyone else did.

I told you 3 days ago that there was a problem - you told me that it would be fixed the next day. This isnt just a few dollars - sorry.
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what college did you go to again? your writing skills are impressive
as are your bean picking/intercetion produce delivery
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Where is the code that's available under the GPL?

I bought Chio's product and think it rocks. Am looking forward to the upgrade, but would be interested in implementing this setup on a few other blogs if I can do it with readily available code.

I'd be willing to bet that AutoBlogger does a bit more and makes it a bit easier...but I'll have to see.
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outta respect for Chio I will bow out of this thread now

beaner beaner beaner beaner

webmaster > beanpicker

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beaner beaner beaner beaner

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done


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Where is the code that's available under the GPL?

I bought Chio's product and think it rocks. Am looking forward to the upgrade, but would be interested in implementing this setup on a few other blogs if I can do it with readily available code.

I'd be willing to bet that AutoBlogger does a bit more and makes it a bit easier...but I'll have to see.
While I wish people would stop giving away the farm on this board alas the link was posted above. I was going to give it to you one day but couldnt' find your ICQ.
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Where is the code that's available under the GPL?

I bought Chio's product and think it rocks. Am looking forward to the upgrade, but would be interested in implementing this setup on a few other blogs if I can do it with readily available code.

I'd be willing to bet that AutoBlogger does a bit more and makes it a bit easier...but I'll have to see.

After talking to my coder, it was agreed that autoblogger is barely a shell of what it used to be. Regardless he has rewritten the entire thing.

I informed damian of same, and posted a message here on gfy a couple of days ago.
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Old 12-11-2005, 08:41 AM   #49
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After talking to my coder, it was agreed that autoblogger is barely a shell of what it used to be. Regardless he has rewritten the entire thing.

I informed damian of same, and posted a message here on gfy a couple of days ago.
I don't doubt you or hold anything against you. Like I said, I'm sure what you guys put together makes things much easier.

I love the script.
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Old 12-11-2005, 08:42 AM   #50
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