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Old 12-11-2005, 03:21 AM   #1
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URGENT message about Scott Trimble / MensNiche / Lativio

This is an urgent message to anyone who works with MensNiche / Lativio / Total WebWorks.

Scott Trimble is no longer working for our company and has NO AUTHORIZATION to deal with any accounts or any business dealings on our behalf. If you have currently been dealing with Scott Trimble then please make all future correspondences to Darren Beale [email protected] ICQ 46335817 or alternatively Andrew Slack [email protected] or if you are an affiliate then [email protected]

You can contact us directly on UK: 0115 8491975 International: 044 115 8491975

To affiliates,

We would like to announce a brand new affiliate manager Ben Lloyd (ICQ 341-743-085) who brings a diverse range of skills to an exhilarating role. Ben has spent years travelling around the world which makes him perfect for a role which requires working with affiliates from over 80 different countries. With experience from Playboy and Siemens, Ben is going to make a huge impact in the amount you earn!

Why the change?

Over the last 6 months our ?MensNiche forum? has uncharacteristically been rather negative and the reason is now clear.

Scott Trimble simply was not doing the job he was paid for; we would therefore like to announce the departure of Scott Trimble from MensNiche.

Although we taught Scott what he knows about affiliate marketing, provided him with a wage which was the highest in the company and three times more than the industry standard, flew him around the world to Florida, Las Vegas, UK and Romania and treated him with the utmost respect he seemed intent on trying to mess with a company that had made him what he was.

Over a period of 6 months:

- Scott neglected affiliate work and new designs to start up his own work on the side.

- Scott referred a designer to an affiliate and then provided sensitive sales information to that designer so the price could be ?bumped up accordingly? and ?kickbacks given?.

- Scott Insulted members of staff and families of those who gave him the chance in this industry.

At MensNiche we are a family but sometimes people mistake our youth and idealistic views as a weakness, we feel this is our strength. Someone like that does not deserve to be part of something special that YOU created.

As per usual we knew what was going on and already sourced an amazing replacement, someone who is 110% dedicated to making MensNiche the best affiliate program on the net, someone who has travelled the world and is ready to make you more money.

Ben Lloyd is your official new affiliate manager with MensNiche and its time to do things differently. It is imperative you make contact with Ben in any of the following ways:

ICQ: 341-743-085 E-mail: [email protected]
UK: 0115 8491975 International: 044 115 8491975
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Old 12-11-2005, 03:25 AM   #2
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I'm going to get in right about...................here.
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Old 12-11-2005, 03:25 AM   #3
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Old 12-11-2005, 03:30 AM   #4
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no good...
No not good at all Trax and it was going on when you met him in Florida too, crazy stuff.
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Old 12-11-2005, 03:31 AM   #5
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wow, shit....that dude sounds very shady
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Old 12-11-2005, 03:33 AM   #6
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sounds messy to me - maybe next month
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Old 12-11-2005, 03:36 AM   #7
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Old 12-11-2005, 03:37 AM   #8
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Does that scott guy post here? if so i predict 5+ pages

if he doesn't i predict 2-3 pages
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Old 12-11-2005, 03:47 AM   #9
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Does that scott guy post here? if so i predict 5+ pages

if he doesn't i predict 2-3 pages
He does yes.
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Old 12-11-2005, 03:51 AM   #10
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This is crazy..I just joined mensniche a week or so ago and he emailed me (the scott guy). I then emailed him back about my game plan for getting started and he never replied back. Thought he just was too busy or didn't give a shit (female webmasters get this type of reaction sometimes...not usually but sometimes)

Well I am glad I know this I was just about to email him again and ask wtf was taking so long to get back with me.

BTW thanks for the info
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Old 12-11-2005, 03:54 AM   #11
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Does that scott guy post here? if so i predict 5+ pages

if he doesn't i predict 2-3 pages
Taking bets on that?
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Old 12-11-2005, 03:59 AM   #12
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Let me be the first to congrats Ben Lloyd and Mensniche ! amazing crew !

CONGRATS !
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Old 12-11-2005, 04:06 AM   #14
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He does yes.
okay 5+ pages, everyone fasten your seatbelts and don't say the B-Word or the thread marshall will put a couple holes in your tushy.
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Old 12-11-2005, 04:08 AM   #15
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Old 12-11-2005, 04:09 AM   #16
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Sorry to hear about that Darren, some people just like to take advantage of others and this guy sounds like one of them. No need for someone like that on your team. I hope everything works out with the new affiliate rep.
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Old 12-11-2005, 04:09 AM   #17
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okay 5+ pages, everyone fasten your seatbelts and don't say the B-Word or the thread marshall will put a couple holes in your tushy.
naah , no drama here , 3 pages Max
all affiliates were noticed by email early...
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Old 12-11-2005, 04:12 AM   #18
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naah , no drama here , 3 pages Max
all affiliates were noticed by email early...
nah i don't mean drama about affiliates and menniche... i think that scott guy is gonna come in here guns blazin'
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nah i don't mean drama about affiliates and menniche... i think that scott guy is gonna come in here guns blazin'
It will be interesting to hear his side of the story.
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nah i don't mean drama about affiliates and menniche... i think that scott guy is gonna come in here guns blazin'
Wonder if that's gonna happen. ;)
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I certainly understand the announcement of your new affiliate manager. I can also understand a simple statement in your release noting the departure of this Scott dude. But it looks really unprofessional calling the guy out and detailing why he was replaced in a press release to announce a new manager.

Would have been much more impressive to simply note the new guy and all the things you plan to do to right your ship. It also makes your new guy look mighty insignificant when you spend more time talking about the guy he replaced.

I hope your new affiliate manager is also being paid 3x the Industry standard and will be flown all over the world as well -- otherwise he might feel cheated after reading this post.

This post made your youth look like a weakness, not Scott. Frankly, I would have never known there were any sort of problems with mensniche -- now I see there are and will likely never send traffic.
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This is an urgent message to anyone who works with MensNiche / Lativio / Total WebWorks.

Scott Trimble is no longer working for our company and has NO AUTHORIZATION to deal with any accounts or any business dealings on our behalf. If you have currently been dealing with Scott Trimble then please make all future correspondences to Darren Beale [email protected] ICQ 46335817 or alternatively Andrew Slack [email protected] or if you are an affiliate then [email protected]

You can contact us directly on UK: 0115 8491975 International: 044 115 8491975

To affiliates,

We would like to announce a brand new affiliate manager Ben Lloyd (ICQ 341-743-085) who brings a diverse range of skills to an exhilarating role. Ben has spent years travelling around the world which makes him perfect for a role which requires working with affiliates from over 80 different countries. With experience from Playboy and Siemens, Ben is going to make a huge impact in the amount you earn!

Why the change?

Over the last 6 months our ?MensNiche forum? has uncharacteristically been rather negative and the reason is now clear.

Scott Trimble simply was not doing the job he was paid for; we would therefore like to announce the departure of Scott Trimble from MensNiche.

Although we taught Scott what he knows about affiliate marketing, provided him with a wage which was the highest in the company and three times more than the industry standard, flew him around the world to Florida, Las Vegas, UK and Romania and treated him with the utmost respect he seemed intent on trying to mess with a company that had made him what he was.

Over a period of 6 months:

- Scott neglected affiliate work and new designs to start up his own work on the side.

- Scott referred a designer to an affiliate and then provided sensitive sales information to that designer so the price could be ?bumped up accordingly? and ?kickbacks given?.

- Scott Insulted members of staff and families of those who gave him the chance in this industry.

At MensNiche we are a family but sometimes people mistake our youth and idealistic views as a weakness, we feel this is our strength. Someone like that does not deserve to be part of something special that YOU created.

As per usual we knew what was going on and already sourced an amazing replacement, someone who is 110% dedicated to making MensNiche the best affiliate program on the net, someone who has travelled the world and is ready to make you more money.

Ben Lloyd is your official new affiliate manager with MensNiche and its time to do things differently. It is imperative you make contact with Ben in any of the following ways:

ICQ: 341-743-085 E-mail: [email protected]
UK: 0115 8491975 International: 044 115 8491975
Onwards and upwards Darren, good to see you guys have your finger on the pulse, your actions and changes will only lead to more sales for me - Merry Xmas
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Frankly, I would have never known there were any sort of problems with mensniche -- now I see there are and will likely never send traffic.
Take a chill pill will.

And dont worry, I think their program will survive without your traffic.
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Wow that is some crazy shit Darren. That really sucks though because you guys were a good team but I guess shit happens. I will see you guys in Vegas.

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I certainly understand the announcement of your new affiliate manager. I can also understand a simple statement in your release noting the departure of this Scott dude. But it looks really unprofessional calling the guy out and detailing why he was replaced in a press release to announce a new manager.

Would have been much more impressive to simply note the new guy and all the things you plan to do to right your ship. It also makes your new guy look mighty insignificant when you spend more time talking about the guy he replaced.

I hope your new affiliate manager is also being paid 3x the Industry standard and will be flown all over the world as well -- otherwise he might feel cheated after reading this post.

This post made your youth look like a weakness, not Scott. Frankly, I would have never known there were any sort of problems with mensniche -- now I see there are and will likely never send traffic.

Its called honesty and it is the MensNiche culture and the way we deal with our affiliates, we tell the truth. The points we made about Scott to illustrate why we had to "let go" a popular member of our team.

GFX Wiz we could have posted a release and had days and days worth of speculation and then our affiliates coming on here to post the truth and it becoming an all mighty mess. By being honest up front we can get this over and done with.
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Its called honesty and it is the MensNiche culture and the way we deal with our affiliates, we tell the truth. The points we made about Scott to illustrate why we had to "let go" a popular member of our team.

GFX Wiz we could have posted a release and had days and days worth of speculation and then our affiliates coming on here to post the truth and it becoming an all mighty mess. By being honest up front we can get this over and done with.
Why was the other POV post from somebody working with Scoot deleted from your board then? sorry i'm curious...
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Its called honesty and it is the MensNiche culture and the way we deal with our affiliates, we tell the truth. The points we made about Scott to illustrate why we had to "let go" a popular member of our team.

GFX Wiz we could have posted a release and had days and days worth of speculation and then our affiliates coming on here to post the truth and it becoming an all mighty mess. By being honest up front we can get this over and done with.
Take the high road, man...always take the high road. The poeple who NEED to know, you can tell them...we didn't ALL need to know. Looks bad...even if you want to make it acceptable under the guise of "honesty." I honestly don't care about this guy Scott's shortcomings...has nothing to do with your company, moving forward.

Take the high road.
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i don't tend to come "against" people when they have left a co., but if i recall well when i contacted scott about an unpaid balance from my previous company he replied to me the way someone would reply if he wanted to delay paying him. That pissed me enough to delete my mensniche account.
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We signed up with Mensniche months back and it took the guy weeks to get back to us. Ignored ICQ messages, emails. So we just moved on.
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Darren, everyone here on GFY agrees that that is an unprofessional press release. I like you guys but you should have thought it over first.
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Yikes a smear campaign. Remind me never to piss you off!

I also spoke to Scott about turning on some high converting SE traffic to mensniche, after a few weeks of chasing him i gave up.

Judging from the others who had the same experience this cock deserves to be let go and should be smeared. How many sales were lost due to his inability to even answer a fuckin message.

I hate cocksuckers like that. Ignore me and you lost me forever, theres other programs who want to make money with me.
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Onwards and upwards Darren, good to see you guys have your finger on the pulse, your actions and changes will only lead to more sales for me - Merry Xmas

sending out an email to all affiliates, slagging of an ex employee, to people who couldnt give a shit about their internal politics, is going to make you more sales?
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Darren, everyone here on GFY agrees that that is an unprofessional press release. I like you guys but you should have thought it over first.
Everyone don't agree shit...blablabla. Don't speak for me. I'd much rather see shady fuckers called out in public. Same for fake nicks, scammers, etc.
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sending out an email to all affiliates, slagging of an ex employee, to people who couldnt give a shit about their internal politics, is going to make you more sales?

I didnt read the email to affiliates...why, cause I was ignored by my rep when asking about certain things, so i ignored the program and emails etc, if not for this post i would carry on thinking mensniche didnt give 2 fucks about anything and were just a bunch of talkers.

Im definately not the only one who took that approach. And now from this post i can see it wasnt a mensniche problem, but a representitives problem.

And it looks like they cured it.
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We don't send out stupid press releases, we just make our affiliates money.
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I didnt read the email to affiliates
OK, so like I just said, that you replied to "sending out an email to all affiliates, slagging of an ex employee, to people who couldnt give a shit about their internal politics, is going to make you more sales?"
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Old 12-11-2005, 02:17 PM   #45
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This post by mensniche and this email that I got from their affiliate program have to be 2 of the single most unprofessional things I've seen since I've ever entered this industry.
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Old 12-11-2005, 02:25 PM   #46
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Damn that kind of shit talk about an employee could wind your asses up in court here in the US. Everything they say maybe true, or it maybe false, but normally there are laws that protect employees from this kind of smear campaigns.

Just my opinion, but that entire thing makes me wonder about the company that wrote it more than if it's really true or not.
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Old 12-11-2005, 02:27 PM   #47
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Damn that kind of shit talk about an employee could wind your asses up in court here in the US. Everything they say maybe true, or it maybe false, but normally there are laws that protect employees from this kind of smear campaigns.

Just my opinion, but that entire thing makes me wonder about the company that wrote it more than if it's really true or not.
I think it's wrong and bad PR but nothing illegal unless it's it's not true. Then I think it would be defermation.
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Old 12-11-2005, 02:30 PM   #48
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Old 12-11-2005, 02:31 PM   #49
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This post by mensniche and this email that I got from their affiliate program have to be 2 of the single most unprofessional things I've seen since I've ever entered this industry.
It's definitely not currently accepted business practice.
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Old 12-11-2005, 02:32 PM   #50
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Then I think it would be defermation.

I also don't think it's defermation.



It is completely unprofessional and illegal in the states, though.
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