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TDF · 12-11-2005, 02:34 PM

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SmokeyTheBear · 12-11-2005, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley

This post by mensniche and this email that I got from their affiliate program have to be 2 of the single most unprofessional things I've seen since I've ever entered this industry.

I dont know if i would go that far , but i cant see how this can "help" sales. I do think there could have been a more professional way of announcing that people who have tried to work with them in the past should try again..

Hardlinks · 12-11-2005, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley

This post by mensniche and this email that I got from their affiliate program have to be 2 of the single most unprofessional things I've seen since I've ever entered this industry.

If this is the worst you seen, you havent been around more then a week.

You may want to rethink that statement.

SmokeyTheBear · 12-11-2005, 02:35 PM

guess this a good place for this pic

matt1biz · 12-11-2005, 02:40 PM

Looks pretty mis-judged to me, maybe you could have individually emailed the affiliates that dealt with him and left the rest.

SmokeyTheBear · 12-11-2005, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by matt1biz

Looks pretty mis-judged to me, maybe you could have individually emailed the affiliates that dealt with him and left the rest.

or simple put out a statement like this..

ANNOUNCEMENT.

It has come to the attention of mensniche that over the last several months we may have dropped the ball. One of our employees did not live up to the mensniche standards and was replaced. If you have tried to contact us in the past and found it difficult we apologize , please contact our new affiliate rep XXXXX

Thanks you for your time.

mrthumbs · 12-11-2005, 02:50 PM

Fuck! I finally got scott to do some stuff for me and now hes gone?!!?

Darren can you hit me up when you have a sec? Thanks.

chaze · 12-11-2005, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

or simple put out a statement like this..

ANNOUNCEMENT.

It has come to the attention of mensniche that over the last several months we may have dropped the ball. One of our employees did not live up to the mensniche standards and was replaced. If you have tried to contact us in the past and found it difficult we apologize , please contact our new affiliate rep XXXXX

Thanks you for your time.

Actually that's exactly how I would say to do it.

No need to mention names and lay it out there in as much truth as you can.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 12-11-2005, 03:05 PM

The adult industry never ceases to amaze me. You should never discuss personnel issues publicly. You open yourself up to a wrongful termination lawsuit when you do. Management should know better.

ADG Webmaster

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 12-11-2005, 03:06 PM

who is the conspiring designer?

Sly · 12-11-2005, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by chaze

I think it's wrong and bad PR but nothing illegal unless it's it's not true. Then I think it would be defermation.

No, in the United States its illegal. Scott could probably turn around and own Darren's ass if it were all based in the United States. An employer can not speak out against former employees in which it would hinder their ability to make money and get new jobs. All the employer can do is stay quiet.

It kind of sucks but its also to protect said employee.

Sly · 12-11-2005, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

No, in the United States its illegal. Scott could probably turn around and own Darren's ass if it were all based in the United States. An employer can not speak out against former employees in which it would hinder their ability to make money and get new jobs. All the employer can do is stay quiet.

It kind of sucks but its also to protect said employee.

Illegal isn't the right word. The situation could easily bring up a civil suit and the plaintiff most likely would win.

JamesK2 · 12-11-2005, 03:11 PM

Kinda fucked up to expose him like that, even though he has done some bad things it's just no reason to fuck up his reputation. Just my opinion.

imageman · 12-11-2005, 03:34 PM

No your not, only a few weeks ago i let 3 webmasters go, I replaced them with just two webmasters who want to make money and work hard. It was a great move as sales have jumped 15% in a very short period of time...
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ilbb · 12-11-2005, 03:52 PM

I hope, that new insider will be better choice...bump for you

Alex From San Diego · 12-11-2005, 04:07 PM

Affiliate reps are entirely overrated....

There are maybe 2-3 that are worth their salt. The rest are leaches looking for a free ride.

As for the announcement, not very clever on your part regardless if your rep was a dirtbag. (alledgedly)

InGayPorn · 12-11-2005, 05:05 PM

As they say in the UK...Bad show!

I don't claim to know the business culture in the UK, but in the US this sort of thing would be the act of fools. No US business in their right mined would have done it. Its just not done...period!

Peaches · 12-11-2005, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

or simple put out a statement like this..

ANNOUNCEMENT.

It has come to the attention of mensniche that over the last several months we may have dropped the ball. One of our employees did not live up to the mensniche standards and was replaced. If you have tried to contact us in the past and found it difficult we apologize , please contact our new affiliate rep XXXXX

Thanks you for your time.

Sadly if a post had been made in those exact words, there would have been 100's of requests to name the slacker. Too many times people have begged posters to name names. Mensniche did. They did push the envelope by stating specific instances about said ex-employee though.

bhutocracy · 12-11-2005, 07:27 PM

Don't think it was that bad, plus every bugger would be begging them for a name otherwise. Darren is good peoples, who gives a damn if a shady guy was outed in a country where they can get away with it. If it was Lensman doing the same with Amp no one would give a shit.

pornpf69 · 12-11-2005, 07:30 PM

at least things seems to be 'getting better'

EroticySteve · 12-11-2005, 07:48 PM

I had the chance to sit down with Darren and Scott in Miami, albeit a late night discussion I got a good understanding of their program. This is a surprise to say the least.

And a few points:

1) There are two sides two every story.
2) Whether or not you would have handled the situation in a similar fashion, what is done is done. Personally it is important I think to keep some stuff under wraps.
3) Employees do go awry from time to time, however not everything is as it seems and everything deserves an explanation. I guess refers to point #1

pocketkangaroo · 12-11-2005, 08:09 PM

Well you guys should hope Scott finds a job quickly otherwise you just handed him a sweet lawsuit on a silver platter.

greenlab · 12-11-2005, 08:15 PM

Darren,
was was Scott doing in Romania ?

SmokeyTheBear · 12-11-2005, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Peaches

Sadly if a post had been made in those exact words, there would have been 100's of requests to name the slacker. Too many times people have begged posters to name names. Mensniche did. They did push the envelope by stating specific instances about said ex-employee though.

true , but someone would have figured it out and posted it serving the same purpose

on the news you often hear about people getting fired , but they dont say " so and so , did this and that "

They say, XXXX was fired/quit amid allegation he did such and such... the company usually just says " XXXX was fired "

My point was just that it didnt serve any purpose to do it the way they did. Its hard not to become personally offended when employees don't represent your company well, but its better to just move on and find the best solution to improve your company. Then again everyone has their own way of doing things

Broken Robot · 12-12-2005, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley

This post by mensniche and this email that I got from their affiliate program have to be 2 of the single most unprofessional things I've seen since I've ever entered this industry.

BEEP!

I don't know if they were the 2 single most unprofessional things...but it definitely is up there. When I received their email, my robot jaw hit the floor. Time to reboot.

Broken Robot.

pussyluver · 12-12-2005, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

Well you guys should hope Scott finds a job quickly otherwise you just handed him a sweet lawsuit on a silver platter.

Agree. In fact even if he does get a job, you've defamed him. Not an attorney, but in my opinion your inexperience in business is sure showing and could really bit ya in the ass legally.

I'd find a moderator and get this thread yanked ASAP to try to mitigate the damage.

Your public statement affects my opinion of the company. Wonder who's the real fuck up now?

tranza · 12-12-2005, 03:43 PM

I believe this thread deserves a bump!

What really hapened?

pussyluver · 12-12-2005, 06:03 PM

We haven't heard the other side of the story. No mention from Scott. That could be a sign he has taken advantage of legal help already.

Don't know much about civil law in the UK other than much of the US system is based on it. Not an attorney either, but it is my opinion that if this were in the states jurisdiction, MensNiche would be getting a visit from a process server soon.

Phoenix · 12-12-2005, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Sounds like a lawsuit in the making

ah man..that is what i was thinking..i hope no one gets it in the ass too hard over this..lol

ScottMN · 12-13-2005, 05:10 PM

my response can be found here
https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/551791-scott-trimble-fired-mensniche-post8843140.html#post8843140

Brian · 12-14-2005, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley

This post by mensniche and this email that I got from their affiliate program have to be 2 of the single most unprofessional things I've seen since I've ever entered this industry.

Agreed. I've dealt with Darren many times before. He's quite shady on many different levels.

Raven · 12-14-2005, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian

Agreed. I've dealt with Darren many times before. He's quite shady on many different levels.

It's all about weights and measures, isn't it?

Brian · 12-14-2005, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Raven

It's all about weights and measures, isn't it?

That's a good part of it, but not nearly all of it.

seeric · 12-14-2005, 11:21 AM

this shit just keeps getting better and better.

Raven · 12-14-2005, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian

That's a good part of it, but not nearly all of it.

Not nearly enough.......

badmunchkin · 12-16-2005, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Darren

Its called honesty and it is the MensNiche culture and the way we deal with our affiliates, we tell the truth.

Why haven't you ever paid rentalunit for his Lativio logo?

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