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Old 12-06-2005, 10:33 AM   #1
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Hoes.com Sponsor Conversion Stats For November

Hi,

A few more revisions to the stats format inside... anything you think I should add that would be useful?

Look for these monthly stats to be published in one of the major adult webmaster print magazines starting next month!

Have a wonderful holiday season, everyone!

Thanks for looking!

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Hoes.com Sponsor Stats For November:
http://www.hoes.com/sponsors/
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Here is what this is all about for those of you who haven't seen our thread before:

Because we advertise so many sites across so many niches using so many sponsors, the many webmasters who submit to us daily tend to ask who we recommend for reliability and conversion success.

Instead of just posting links to a few of our favorites, we decided to compile our stats from month to month and post them for all to see. Basically, we offer a ranking of the top 20 or so sponsors that converted for us during the month.

We update this every month and hope that it helps a few of you to make an educated decision about which sponsors to advertise.


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Old 12-06-2005, 10:40 AM   #2
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Nice I look forward to this every month.
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Old 12-06-2005, 10:42 AM   #3
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What about 1st page 2nd page counting? Do you keep track of that?
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Do you guys do well with CCBill programs?
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Old 12-06-2005, 10:49 AM   #5
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WHy not try more sponsors?
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Old 12-06-2005, 10:51 AM   #6
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What about 1st page 2nd page counting? Do you keep track of that?
Always a good question that I try to answer each month :-)

As we all know, it's damn near impossible to figure out how "certain" sponsors track hits. There are a few sponsors like PerfectGonzo that I leave out of the stats entirely because I have no idea what they track. A few of the sponsors I must manually login to their stats and compute the 1st page unique ratio because they don't report it in Statsremote... but for the most part, the list is fairly consistant 1st page uniques. It's definately not perfect though. It couldn't be without running my own tracking script which I have no interest in doing.

I hope that providing other snippets of info like "traffic rank", "most earned" and "most traffic received" will help people make more informed decisions as to who converts best for me. In the end, it comes down to dollars. The sponsors that make the most and convert the best over time get the most traffic.

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WHy not try more sponsors?
I'm always adding new sponsors. I apologize that I haven't gotten to your program yet... I have a list of programs to add in the coming months and you are on it. I don't like to add too many each month.

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Old 12-06-2005, 10:55 AM   #8
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nice to see topbucks up there as always
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Old 12-06-2005, 11:02 AM   #9
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Thanks a lot for your traffic Marc, good to see us up there in the top10!

LeakingLiquids is doing good for you: 1:527 !

If you have the time lets go over your account and work on the sites that work best for you,

Thanks again!

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thanks again this month for posting that.
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when are you going to do the same for the single girl network?
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Old 12-06-2005, 11:27 AM   #12
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Old 12-06-2005, 12:12 PM   #13
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Do you guys do well with CCBill programs?

CCBill programs are hit and miss... I tend to do well with the super micro-niche programs. One site that converts well in the gay niche is http://www.straightcollegemen.com/index.html

I try lots of ccbill programs. Some work, some don't and I delete them after a month.

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I'm always adding new sponsors. I apologize that I haven't gotten to your program yet... I have a list of programs to add in the coming months and you are on it. I don't like to add too many each month.

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totally understood I love to see these reports
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Old 12-06-2005, 12:15 PM   #15
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Right on!

Conversions are down a bit from last month but I see we are still #5 overall!

I'm really looking forward to December & January's stats.

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Old 12-06-2005, 12:31 PM   #16
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Old 12-06-2005, 12:40 PM   #17
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Old 12-06-2005, 01:15 PM   #19
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when are you going to do the same for the single girl network?

That would be one hell of an undertaking that I would never tackle... I think there are over 500 girls and hundreds of programs listed there.

I'm sorry, it would just be too much work!

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Old 12-06-2005, 03:19 PM   #20
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Thanks a lot for your traffic Marc, good to see us up there in the top10!

LeakingLiquids is doing good for you: 1:527 !

If you have the time lets go over your account and work on the sites that work best for you,

Thanks again!

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I'm always happy to look over sponsor suggestions... please look at my account and email ideas to mb at hoes.com

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Old 12-06-2005, 07:31 PM   #22
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at least we jumped 9 slots from last month!!....if you send more traffic i bet it will go even higher!
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Old 12-06-2005, 08:41 PM   #23
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Right on!

Conversions are down a bit from last month but I see we are still #5 overall!

I'm really looking forward to December & January's stats.

Cheers,
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Let's see what happens when I get around to finally dividing up my Voyeur category the way it should be...

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Old 12-06-2005, 09:08 PM   #24
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Good to see www.occash.com in the top 10 and actually moving up the list. You forgot to highlight us as a revshare sponsor BTW.

Pornopushers is solid, I've had really good luck with them so far...here use my link:
http://stats.pornopushers.com/referr...php?refcode=14


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Old 12-06-2005, 10:29 PM   #25
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Good to see www.occash.com in the top 10 and actually moving up the list. You forgot to highlight us as a revshare sponsor BTW.

Pornopushers is solid, I've had really good luck with them so far...here use my link:
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Shit, you're right... let me get that highlighted...

thanks Jay...
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Everyone should try out "Bubble Butt Orgy" from OC Cash... it's a winner.

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Old 12-07-2005, 08:37 AM   #28
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Great stats Marc, as usual.
What I still don't get, why we, 'the affiliates' as a group, don't demand that each sponsor shows the same type of hits in their stats. I don't mind if they show 1st, 2nd or join page hits, as long as I can compare them with other sponsors. I personally only care how many clicks/ uniques I send to a sponsor and how much money I make with that traffic.
Now I can't compare jack. They can try to create a smokescreen, but soon I will just get myself a click log script, so I can see how much traffic a sponsor gets and makes me and then act accordingly. Maybe we all should do the same. This will be harder to do with galleries, but its a start.

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Not a fair statement mb, check your facts please. Our "counting" is not much different than Topbucks, Bangbros, Realitycash or Nichedsites. If you leave us out you might want to look into dropping others from your stats as well.
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You should try SexSearch, they do great for me.

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Great stats Marc, as usual.
What I still don't get, why we, 'the affiliates' as a group, don't demand that each sponsor shows the same type of hits in their stats. I don't mind if they show 1st, 2nd or join page hits, as long as I can compare them with other sponsors. I personally only care how many clicks/ uniques I send to a sponsor and how much money I make with that traffic.
Now I can't compare jack. They can try to create a smokescreen, but soon I will just get myself a click log script, so I can see how much traffic a sponsor gets and makes me and then act accordingly. Maybe we all should do the same. This will be harder to do with galleries, but its a start.

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It's an impossible task to streamline sponsor reported stats. The only way is as you say, to track it yourself. I'd be nervous that my "tracker" might go down for a few hours and no one could reach the sponsors.

I just don't worry about specifics. I know which spots on my site send the most traffic and the sponsors that consistantly send me big checks and "seem" to convert well get those spots.

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when you will get to new sponsors ..

pls , do not forget our best converting

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mb, you should get adult elite on there Just join with your existing PimpRoll account and you're in. Higher payout with no consoles & some unique niche sites.

(I was watching for your stats post to see how it's doing for ya..)

Nice stats as always.

ps: your october stats archive page seems to be 404ing
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Glad to see you at the top as well. Every month is an improvement.

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thanks for the update Marc i was wondering when you would do it.. hit me up it's been a while
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Not a fair statement mb, check your facts please. Our "counting" is not much different than Topbucks, Bangbros, Realitycash or Nichedsites. If you leave us out you might want to look into dropping others from your stats as well.
Dave - You've been quite defensive about this before. Why don't you just show the real "count"? You've got a good program that converts pretty well (or I think it does) becasue you have a good product. There is no need to wash the numbers to make you look good. You already do really well.
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mb, you should get adult elite on there Just join with your existing PimpRoll account and you're in. Higher payout with no consoles & some unique niche sites.

(I was watching for your stats post to see how it's doing for ya..)

Nice stats as always.

ps: your october stats archive page seems to be 404ing

Nice looking payout for console free... I'll jump in on that. Not sure why I haven't looking into it yet.
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Jay, thanks for the kind words, I know what you mean, we're not washing any numbers however. I just don't like double standards being used on us in public posts, that's all.

My question to mb remains unanswered. If you (both you Jay, and mb) have a position how programs should display ratios, why not apply it to all programs equally across the board. Why are these programs not dropped from the stats?

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thanks for the update Marc i was wondering when you would do it.. hit me up it's been a while

Your welcome my friend. Your program keeps rockin' along... keep up the fine work. One of these days we'll finally meet... unfortunately I can't make Vegas this year.

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