Is this illegal in the USA? - GoFuckYourself.com

NinjaSteve · 11-13-2005, 02:57 AM

Is fisting, hardcore facials, or urination illegal in the USA

Or is it just considered 'obscene' in some states? I remember seeing a show talking about Larry Flynt signing off on these things saying he won't produce this type of content but I don't remember if it was considered illegal or just possibly obscene.

baddog · 11-13-2005, 02:58 AM

Depends who you talk to.

NinjaSteve · 11-13-2005, 02:59 AM

Or is that a law in California?

$5 submissions · 11-13-2005, 03:03 AM

The US obscenity standard (Miller v California) uses a LOCAL standard. While those items you mentioned may be okay in more 'liberal' areas like San Francisco it MIGHT get you in hot water in the Bible Belt. Here's Attorney P Cambria's list re possible obscene materials: http://www.stcl.edu/faculty-dir/berg...ria%20List.pdf

Definitely consult with a 1stAm attorney, though.

solonline · 11-13-2005, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions

The US obscenity standard (Miller v California) uses a LOCAL standard. While those items you mentioned may be okay in more 'liberal' areas like San Francisco it MIGHT get you in hot water in the Bible Belt. Here's Attorney P Cambria's list re possible obscene materials: http://www.stcl.edu/faculty-dir/berg...ria%20List.pdf

Definitely consult with a 1stAm attorney, though.

This list has to be a joke right ? look thought
"No Black men / white women themes" ?
"No male male pen"

made me lafff out loud

NinjaSteve · 11-13-2005, 03:27 AM

Thanks for the link.

phonesex · 11-13-2005, 03:39 AM

its wrong on after you get caught

romeoboi · 11-13-2005, 03:39 AM

fisting or urination is much more risky....

when the FBI recently busted Max Hardcore, a lot of urination/watersports sites like meatcash's pissmops such down because of the likelyhood of them being next

High Quality · 11-13-2005, 03:45 AM

No coffins? Doh, I shoot all my models in funeral homes. That sucks. I'm screwed.

RawAlex · 11-13-2005, 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by $5 submissions

The US obscenity standard (Miller v California) uses a LOCAL standard. While those items you mentioned may be okay in more 'liberal' areas like San Francisco it MIGHT get you in hot water in the Bible Belt. Here's Attorney P Cambria's list re possible obscene materials: http://www.stcl.edu/faculty-dir/berg...ria%20List.pdf

Definitely consult with a 1stAm attorney, though.

Let me say this first: Your choice of links is interesting. It is a censored listing of a censored list used on PBS's Frontline, which is a notoriously conservative / christian oriented show.

Let me then add this: The Cambria list represents one (experienced) attourney's version of what should or should not appear in a porn movie (mostly the box cover) to be as safe as possible. It is like a girl taking the pill, using an IUD, and insisting that her partners where condoms and get a vasectomy.

Let me add this: The list when released was a discussion mostly of what would be on box covers of videos. That is why there is this important point "Before selecting a chrome please check facial expression. Do not use any shots that depict any unhappiness or pain." - chromes, for those of you who only think pictures come in digital formats, is an actual photographic negative.

Some of the items on the list (such as black / white sex) are there to appease the southern hick racists who might consider that morally objectionable and therefore obscene to them. The thought was that if a video store gets raided, the police will not spend the time initially to view all the videos in the store, and will rather select the ones with the most otrageous scenes on the boxcovers. By not putting such stuff on the box, it is likely that someone else will be used as the justification for the obscenity case.

In reality, Some dude name Bin Ladin came along before Assclown had a chance to really take the industry on, and completely and totally distracted the US government and the DOJ. Only recently has the DOJ started to act on the threats and political posturing that was present in both elections.

What is obscene? I don't know.

Alex

rickholio · 11-13-2005, 04:10 AM

Simple three-point answer:

- Leave the US
- Set up shop in a country that doesn't really give a fuck
- PROFIT!

Isn't that what they're really after, anyways? Why not extract as much benefit from that as possible?

kmanrox · 11-13-2005, 04:15 AM

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NinjaSteve · 11-13-2005, 05:47 AM

http://www.hotbraces.com/

$5 submissions · 11-13-2005, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by solonline

This list has to be a joke right ? look thought
"No Black men / white women themes" ?
"No male male pen"

made me lafff out loud

Cambria came up with those items with an eye towards certain local jurisdictions' provincialism. It makes most people laugh. Unfortunately, the Miller obscenity standard is a LOCAL standard so it behooves an adult biz entrepreneur to know the full spectrum of LOCAL prejudices or else it might bite him in the ass. Just my take on why Cambria put those items on the list.

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