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Old 11-04-2005, 07:34 PM   #1
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Last Offer: Angel Content.com For Sale

Hello guys,

So this is the last offer, I don't have anymore time to spend for that,

Check that thread: https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/530951-sale-owner-angel-content-com-content-provider-business-post8485531.html#post8485531

So www.angelcontent.com is for sale, all the business, all the content, content provider site with fully working shopping cart with instant downloads and all the gadgets. Plus the domain names that you can check in that thread.

Asking price is $10 000 for all the business.

Email: [email protected]


Waiting for your propostions...
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Old 11-04-2005, 11:59 PM   #2
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No buddy wants it obviously if you have been posting it for over 2 months. Give it away.
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Old 11-05-2005, 12:04 AM   #3
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No buddy wants it obviously if you have been posting it for over 2 months. Give it away.
Yep, I'll take it then.
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Old 11-05-2005, 12:53 AM   #4
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You have nothing to sell.

The content is poor and that's all you have.

Unless you have a mailing list of BUYERS you have nothing that is worth $1,000 let alone $10,000.

Sorry if I'm being blunt but after looking at your content I doubt if it would sell enough to return the $10,000.

You have 36 poor sets that I doubt would return $100 each.
$30 videos that would not even make that money.

So content worth is $7,000 at the very best. Deduct, hosting, CC processing charges and you're looking at losing 20% off the top of that. Leaving $5,600. Calculate the work involved and risk factor and it gets worse.

Your biggest problem is you believed that picking up a camera made you a pornographer. Well this is the real world and your teen solo page is not good enough.

http://www.angelcontent.com/home/pho...core/index.htm

Is up against

http://www.paulmarkham.com/teens.php?who=s

Now which content store do you think isn't for sale?

If you have a mailing list of clients hit me up, but I pay on results so it had better be a good list.
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Old 11-05-2005, 12:56 AM   #5
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I will buy the domain for 300.00.
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Old 11-05-2005, 01:06 AM   #7
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Why, you can get Angels Content for 10 years for $70.

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You tell'im Paul!
It's the blunt truth.

He insults my profession and I'm proud of it.

To many people think what we do is easy and content is the least important thing on the Adult Internet. Not anyone spending $30 a month though.
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To many people think what we do is easy and content is the least important thing on the Adult Internet. Not anyone spending $30 a month though.

Which is EXACTLY why I deal with exclusive clients and not the nickle and dime people who want 3 pics of a chick holding a sign or some shit.

Don't get me wrong...Someday I will reopen my site and sell non-exclusive but that will be when I decide to hire somebody to deal with all the crap that goes along with it.

Amen Paul!
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Why, you can get Angels Content for 10 years for $70.

It's the blunt truth.

He insults my profession and I'm proud of it.

To many people think what we do is easy and content is the least important thing on the Adult Internet. Not anyone spending $30 a month though.
Oops heya thankies man!

I do not claim to be the brightest one in the bunch!
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Old 11-05-2005, 01:34 AM   #10
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Why, you can get Angels Content for 10 years for $70.

It's the blunt truth.

He insults my profession and I'm proud of it.

To many people think what we do is easy and content is the least important thing on the Adult Internet. Not anyone spending $30 a month though.
Well if ya will notice that from content to design the biz types always want cheaper better, meaner faster. Now I tell ya, if the creative types realised the power they hold there would not be starving artists everywhere.


Mainstream entertainment creatives have realised this, why havent we as an industry?
The fuck with 600 bucks a design or even 800 or even 350.00. Thats chicken feed compared to what the creations generate. Same goes with content. Biz types want price drops. The only thing the biz types loose in that quest is quality.
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Old 11-05-2005, 02:10 AM   #11
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Well if ya will notice that from content to design the biz types always want cheaper better, meaner faster. Now I tell ya, if the creative types realised the power they hold there would not be starving artists everywhere.


Mainstream entertainment creatives have realised this, why havent we as an industry?
The fuck with 600 bucks a design or even 800 or even 350.00. Thats chicken feed compared to what the creations generate. Same goes with content. Biz types want price drops. The only thing the biz types loose in that quest is quality.
Some realise it.

The adult net is growning up by the day and already many realise the bottom of the barrel is over crowded and stinks. Look at the sites going forward and upwards. Most are offering a new look to the business.

The idea use to be to increase traffic, it was traffic, traffic, traffic and even more traffic as the only solution. It's not.

Problem is 90% of decent sponsors are traffic gurus and none have the magic bullet to getting it. Also the surfer is getting more educated, more spoilt and expecting a better product. Just delivering more hits to a site is just not going to cut it in the future. You have to convert those hits.

The surfer is seeing a better product on freesites, he's seeing better products on tours and he's demanding a better product for his $30. The only thing he's buying is content.

Add to this equasion the affiliate who knows how to drive traffic, he likes his freebies, but bottom line is the site have to convert and pay him money. Sites that don't will soon find themselves losing the 10% of truly effective affiliates they have. All because their traffic performed better elsewhere. Why? Because the other site converts better.

What makes a site convert is why Angel content is selling out, his days were 5 years ago. Why Aaron is selling sets for a lot more than $150 and why I can afford to fly to Vegas, just to sit in the bar and tell people if they want content to go to the content store.

And tell the guys who want me to quote on an exclusive that I'm not interested unless they want the job done right and won't compare my price against a guy like Angel Content's price . I don't compete with them becasue I don't have to.

The falacy that non exclusive is saturated is exposed. If it were true the guys shooting it wouldn't be selling for peanuts. Plus the guys buying non exclusive would stop buying it because it does not work. To saturate it you have to sell it, the days of the explosion are over. The newbie gets it for free, the established buy. The rebuy because it works.

Truth is the only thing that will sell tomorrow, on a consistent basis, is quality. The mystery of traffic is over.
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Old 11-05-2005, 02:22 AM   #12
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Which is EXACTLY why I deal with exclusive clients and not the nickle and dime people who want 3 pics of a chick holding a sign or some shit.

Don't get me wrong...Someday I will reopen my site and sell non-exclusive but that will be when I decide to hire somebody to deal with all the crap that goes along with it.

Amen Paul!
I find exclusive clients even more trouble. Getting the girls to turn up to do the shoot I'v promised and shooting it the way they want it. All hard work for me. We shoot when the right girls turn up, shoot what we like and the idiots mostly spend so little you can tell them to figure it out. The store works so well we get few problems. Idiots don't last long anyway.

But respect to you. There are few other US exclusive shooters who can afford to fly to Holland for a show. Most of them can't afford to turn up to US ones.

Seen you twice in Amsterdam.
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I find exclusive clients even more trouble. Getting the girls to turn up to do the shoot I'v promised and shooting it the way they want it. All hard work for me. We shoot when the right girls turn up, shoot what we like and the idiots mostly spend so little you can tell them to figure it out. The store works so well we get few problems. Idiots don't last long anyway.

But respect to you. There are few other US exclusive shooters who can afford to fly to Holland for a show. Most of them can't afford to turn up to US ones.

Seen you twice in Amsterdam.

And I just booked my Maui vacation yesterday morning.

I'll probably be seeing you in Bruno fairly soon. I want to get out there and also to Budapest and a few other places.

The next 2 months are booked solid with either shoots or travel stuff.
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And I just booked my Maui vacation yesterday morning.

I'll probably be seeing you in Bruno fairly soon. I want to get out there and also to Budapest and a few other places.

The next 2 months are booked solid with either shoots or travel stuff.
Your always welcome in Brno. Budapest is getting mixed reviews. Max Candy says it's getting good again and another shooter I know heas just moved out becasue it was crap. I think like most things it's down to your contacts.
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Why, you can get Angels Content for 10 years for $70.

It's the blunt truth.

He insults my profession and I'm proud of it.
Didn't mean it in a negative way. Just found it hilarious that he had the bad luck of running into a professional to tell him the real worth of his stuff.
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Your always welcome in Brno. Budapest is getting mixed reviews. Max Candy says it's getting good again and another shooter I know heas just moved out becasue it was crap. I think like most things it's down to your contacts.

I'm going there to party with Ram, not shoot.
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Didn't mean it in a negative way. Just found it hilarious that he had the bad luck of running into a professional to tell him the real worth of his stuff.
I think webmasters have been telling him in a roundabout way the worth of his stuff.

It's not as good as most of the content we have on www.bargainbasementcontent.com and he's charging top prices for it.

Guess this is one non exclusive shooter who's content will never get saturated. He'll be shooting exclusive next week for the cheap skates.

Who is RAM?
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I think webmasters have been telling him in a roundabout way the worth of his stuff.

It's not as good as most of the content we have on www.bargainbasementcontent.com and he's charging top prices for it.

Guess this is one non exclusive shooter who's content will never get saturated. He'll be shooting exclusive next week for the cheap skates.

Who is RAM?

You have become a symbol, a beacon if you will.....

You my friend are the God of shameless spammers.


RAM is a legend. Stop playing like you don't know. That's disrespectful to him.

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I've just had a brainwave... you should start doing weekend crash courses in photography. With your gift-of-the-gab it would go down a treat with the Practical Photography crowd.

I'd even sign up myself for a course.
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I've just had a brainwave... you should start doing weekend crash courses in photography. With your gift-of-the-gab it would go down a treat with the Practical Photography crowd.

I'd even sign up myself for a course.
Photography knowledge I'm very short on and it would insult the profession of photographers to call me one.

Pornography, erotica and the business of getting dicks hard I do have a talent for.

It took me two weeks to teach Eva how to light and operate a camera, 8 years on and I'm still teaching her how to create porn and I consider her a natural. Most of the stuff on the site is shot by Eva.

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You my friend are the God of shameless spammers.
Some may be here for the social life, I'm only here to sell my product.
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good luck with the sale...
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Thanks, we sell it all the time.
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