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Old 11-04-2005, 12:59 PM   #1
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The way brokertraffic.com makes business

Hello, first of all, I would like to introduce myself (Loki) and my partner - plastic. We are in business since 2000. We started with MGPs, most of you well know. These MGPs are pornchixmovies.com, cumpool.com, xpie.net and others. Now we have a lot of different projects, like FullPornDVDs.com (DeluxePass), IcooMovies.com (IcooCash), VipArchive.com (our own WM program ? GENEROUSCASH.COM). Also we make over 30 quality gallery posts daily. Most of MGP owners know and appreciate our galleries. Few samples provided bellow:

http://galleryplatinum.com/2005_11_02/daphne
http://galleryteam.com/2005_11_01/daphne
http://pornenergy.com/2005_11_01/mary
http://vipclips.com/2005_11_01/Taylor
http://freepornmoviestv.com/2005_11_01/siera_sage
http://viperotica.com/2005_11_01/5tiffany_tease
http://thebookofsex.com/2005_11_01/scene_2
http://gonefucking.com/2005_11_01/nikita
http://cheaphardcoremovies.com/2005_11_01/6dana_vespoly
http://pornpornporn.net/galleries/20...6_simone_peach
http://icoogalleries.com/2005_11_01/01_2
http://freesexmoviestv.com/2005_11_01/sandra_romain
http://icoodvds.com/2005_11_01/scene_6

Since our gals are top quality, we had no big need of pay partner accounts. But few months ago we started to use pay accounts. We contacted brokertraffic.com, they liked our galleries and we made a deal. Everything was ok we wanted to increase the volumes, but we didn?t find a beneficial agreement because of the price and left everything on the same level.


But day by day the traffic we were receiving from them was getting lower and lower. And they had big delays on approving our galleries also.


That time we didn?t have a detailed traffic statistics, so we couldn?t define the exact amount of traffic we were receiving from brokertraffic, just approximately. So when they offered us 15 days extra for their slow approvals ? we accepted. But over 1 month ago we launched the detailed stats system for all of our galleries. And now we have detailed stats of how much traffic we are getting from all sites of brokertraffic.


For last month they were not approving our galleries and we were getting lower and lower traffic.


After ignoring our messages by Chris we contacted the other guy from brokertraffic team ? Rob. He reviewed our account and offered us 15 days extra. We proved that for last months we didn?t get about 2160K of traffic and this is 24 extra days (The deal was 90K daily and we were getting 18K ONLY! Average daily, so (90K-18K)*30 days = 2160K). Rob refused us in a rude form. Then we warned him that the situation will receive publicity.


P.S. The amount of this deal is not a reason why we would like to inform the adult community of this situation. But we were really disappointed that brokertraffic (which is pretty big adult tgp/mgp network) admits that unprofessional behavior with their clients.

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Old 11-04-2005, 01:00 PM   #2
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Old 11-04-2005, 01:05 PM   #3
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Old 11-04-2005, 01:17 PM   #4
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Old 11-04-2005, 01:19 PM   #5
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Hi,

You are not alone. I heard from friends the same experiences.

May I ask you what traffic system you are using? It looks amazing, and VERY useful. Also a CTR if 13% is amazing. Good luck with your business.

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Old 11-04-2005, 01:26 PM   #6
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What stats system are you using ?
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Old 11-04-2005, 01:45 PM   #7
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Rob from brokertraffic stole $600 of my money. I paid for XXX amount of hits to galleries and got 0 traffic. No refund No traffic.

Keep away from Brokertraffic they are crooks
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Old 11-04-2005, 01:50 PM   #8
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I don't think I've heard one good thing about these guys yet, plenty of bad things though.
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Old 11-04-2005, 01:58 PM   #9
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Old 11-04-2005, 02:03 PM   #10
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It's been two years and Rob/brokertraffic still has not sent all the sales I had prepaid for
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Old 11-04-2005, 02:30 PM   #11
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I bought a month of spots from them once and noticed the traffic volume seemed quite low for the amount of money I had spent. When I asked them about it, they agreed and even allowed me to have extra galleries approved (to get more traffic), and also said that they'd have someone look into the reason for getting so few hits to the galleries.

I asked them a few days later if they'd looked into the low traffic situation yet; their response was that yes they had, and there didn't appear to be anything wrong, but they still agreed that it wasn't sending enough hits (even with the extra approved galleries).

However they never offered to fix the situation, extend the deal, or refund any money.

They simply flat out told me they weren't sending as much as they should be and made no further effort to compensate me for it.

I didn't buy a second month there :P
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Old 11-04-2005, 02:43 PM   #12
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wowsa, thats alot of detail
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Old 11-04-2005, 02:57 PM   #13
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what stats tracking software is that?
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Old 11-04-2005, 03:03 PM   #14
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that's a piece of stats. lovely sw
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Old 11-04-2005, 03:17 PM   #15
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We can see that brokertraffic behaved unfair and dishonest not only with us. It only proves their unprofessionality. Maybe the real owner of the brokertraffic doesn't know about harsh behavior of brokertraffic team (it they are not owners theyself). Does anyone have true owner's contacts ?

2justsexxx, Doctor Dre, wdsguy
We use custom made software. Looks good, ehh ? =) We were creating this soft for almost two years, and now we can define cheating partner accounts sellers.
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Old 11-04-2005, 03:27 PM   #16
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I'd like to hear the other side aswell
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Old 11-04-2005, 03:32 PM   #17
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We use custom made software. Looks good, ehh ? =) We were creating this soft for almost two years, and now we can define cheating partner accounts sellers.
That is a real nice stats program, will you be selling it?
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Old 11-04-2005, 04:09 PM   #18
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We can see that brokertraffic behaved unfair and dishonest not only with us. It only proves their unprofessionality. Maybe the real owner of the brokertraffic doesn't know about harsh behavior of brokertraffic team (it they are not owners theyself). Does anyone have true owner's contacts ?

2justsexxx, Doctor Dre, wdsguy
We use custom made software. Looks good, ehh ? =) We were creating this soft for almost two years, and now we can define cheating partner accounts sellers.
Any change you will sell this?
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Old 11-04-2005, 06:11 PM   #19
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Yes we also wasted $500 or $600 on a campaign with Brokertraffic last year.
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Old 11-04-2005, 06:30 PM   #20
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why pay for partners when you can get free partners. some of the best partner accounts i have got just from hanging on the mgp boards.
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Old 11-04-2005, 06:33 PM   #21
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i didn't get good results either, very low delivery... but to be fair I didnt contact them about it. But it was supposed to be 100k gallery view a day for a month, and it never got near that.

If anyone else can do it, let me know
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Old 11-04-2005, 06:40 PM   #22
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Old 11-04-2005, 06:45 PM   #23
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Wow, alot of bad brokertraffic experiences here, thanks for the warning everyone.
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Old 11-04-2005, 06:48 PM   #24
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Old 11-04-2005, 06:50 PM   #25
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The clickthrough rates that you are showing on those stats...are those clickthroughs from gallery to sponsor? If so, those are very high. I usually find 4% is good.
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Old 11-07-2005, 09:15 AM   #26
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We don't sell it at the moment, cause it's one whole system to manager galleries, submits, traffic, etc. We spent a bunch of time and money to make it. But I don't sweat we will never sell it ever =)
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Old 11-07-2005, 09:40 AM   #27
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i mean But I don't swear we will never sell it ever =)
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Old 11-07-2005, 09:59 AM   #28
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I just wanted to use it, but now i won't ... some one has other suggestions?
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Old 11-07-2005, 12:29 PM   #29
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Interesting, a software to find fake partner accounts.
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Old 11-07-2005, 01:38 PM   #30
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uhhmm that sucks.. ill keep away then
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Old 11-07-2005, 03:25 PM   #31
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LOK, very very very nice galleries.
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Old 11-07-2005, 03:31 PM   #32
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spooky181, 4Pics, RSD and you too LOK, I like to offer all of you a free trial on http://www.buygalleryspots.com, so if you are interested please e-mail me.
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Old 11-08-2005, 08:50 AM   #33
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2ThumbLord 10hahaha1093; i'll try your offer =P
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Old 11-08-2005, 08:53 AM   #34
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i am lost. next time send this to me and i will write it for you for free. no offense.

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Old 11-08-2005, 08:53 AM   #35
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LOK, it was nice talking to you.
next time do not forget to order a large CTR when with McDonalds LOL
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Old 11-08-2005, 09:01 AM   #36
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2ThumbLord will do =P
18:39:08 ThumbLords: the above does not make us "popular" as explained it looks like you are an exception, you even check CTR most webmasters think CTR is something you can order with McDonalds
18:40:32 Loki: LOL =)) Thats why this guys eat in McDonalds. =P
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Old 11-08-2005, 09:15 AM   #37
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wow man, thanks for sharing the info, guess i will keep that in mind if i ever deal with them
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Old 11-08-2005, 09:22 AM   #38
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Damn thats pretty shady shit
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Bluemoon, where are you?

He was just asking me why their traffic wasn't adding up a couple of days ago.
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Old 11-08-2005, 09:26 AM   #40
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thanks for sharing bro..
I see your in the MGP area.. please if you can icq me 338847113
Thanks!
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Old 11-08-2005, 09:28 AM   #41
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Good to know, I was going to try them out

BTW, nice system LOK, I have a similar custom script
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18:39:08 ThumbLords: the above does not make us "popular" as explained it looks like you are an exception, you even check CTR most webmasters think CTR is something you can order with McDonalds
18:40:32 Loki: LOL =)) Thats why this guys eat in McDonalds. =P
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Old 11-08-2005, 04:28 PM   #43
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i can say that i've had a similar experience with them last year, i mean they didn't deliver the amount of traffic they promised but i managed to cover my costs and even make some money, but the second month was worst and then i decided to stop using them.
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BruceM and porncargo I am sorry but I overlooked your posts so yes the offer for you is the same as for spooky181, 4Pics, RSD but ............. I have only limited spots left.
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everyone reading this: I would like such stats software. Any idea where to buy/hire ppl to make it, with proven records?
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Old 11-09-2005, 11:07 AM   #46
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2justsexxx we do not sell our software right now. But may be u should ask ejeet =)
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2justsexxx we do not sell our software right now. But may be u should ask ejeet =)
Sorry, I'm keeping it close to my chest too
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I also coded a system to crawl my trades from my toplist and rip out their galleries links and use it to provide a breakdown of sponsor popularity. After analyzing the data and identifying the saturated sponsors I was able to drop them, I saw a nice increase in sales

I'm a stats freak I admit it.
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Old 11-09-2005, 11:59 AM   #49
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I would really like to have a stats program to know what partner accounts are fake, Im sure I am wasting a lot of money in fake partner accounts right now, imagine if someone release such a software and sell it to webmasters, it will show wich tgp owners sell no worthy partner accounts.
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Old 11-09-2005, 12:10 PM   #50
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everyone reading this: I would like such stats software. Any idea where to buy/hire ppl to make it, with proven records?
I may be interested in that as well. Probably quite a few gallery submitters would be.

Looks like a good opportunity for someone who can program it
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