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LOK 11-04-2005 12:59 PM

The way brokertraffic.com makes business
 
Hello, first of all, I would like to introduce myself (Loki) and my partner - plastic. We are in business since 2000. We started with MGPs, most of you well know. These MGPs are pornchixmovies.com, cumpool.com, xpie.net and others. Now we have a lot of different projects, like FullPornDVDs.com (DeluxePass), IcooMovies.com (IcooCash), VipArchive.com (our own WM program ? GENEROUSCASH.COM). Also we make over 30 quality gallery posts daily. Most of MGP owners know and appreciate our galleries. Few samples provided bellow:

http://galleryplatinum.com/2005_11_02/daphne
http://galleryteam.com/2005_11_01/daphne
http://pornenergy.com/2005_11_01/mary
http://vipclips.com/2005_11_01/Taylor
http://freepornmoviestv.com/2005_11_01/siera_sage
http://viperotica.com/2005_11_01/5tiffany_tease
http://thebookofsex.com/2005_11_01/scene_2
http://gonefucking.com/2005_11_01/nikita
http://cheaphardcoremovies.com/2005_11_01/6dana_vespoly
http://pornpornporn.net/galleries/20...6_simone_peach
http://icoogalleries.com/2005_11_01/01_2
http://freesexmoviestv.com/2005_11_01/sandra_romain
http://icoodvds.com/2005_11_01/scene_6

Since our gals are top quality, we had no big need of pay partner accounts. But few months ago we started to use pay accounts. We contacted brokertraffic.com, they liked our galleries and we made a deal. Everything was ok we wanted to increase the volumes, but we didn?t find a beneficial agreement because of the price and left everything on the same level.
http://www.icoomovies.com/broker/history_Chris01.jpg

But day by day the traffic we were receiving from them was getting lower and lower. And they had big delays on approving our galleries also.
http://www.icoomovies.com/broker/history_Chris02.jpg

That time we didn?t have a detailed traffic statistics, so we couldn?t define the exact amount of traffic we were receiving from brokertraffic, just approximately. So when they offered us 15 days extra for their slow approvals ? we accepted. But over 1 month ago we launched the detailed stats system for all of our galleries. And now we have detailed stats of how much traffic we are getting from all sites of brokertraffic.
http://www.icoomovies.com/broker/stats.jpg

For last month they were not approving our galleries and we were getting lower and lower traffic.
http://www.icoomovies.com/broker/history_Chris03.jpg

After ignoring our messages by Chris we contacted the other guy from brokertraffic team ? Rob. He reviewed our account and offered us 15 days extra. We proved that for last months we didn?t get about 2160K of traffic and this is 24 extra days (The deal was 90K daily and we were getting 18K ONLY! Average daily, so (90K-18K)*30 days = 2160K). Rob refused us in a rude form. Then we warned him that the situation will receive publicity.
http://www.icoomovies.com/broker/history_Rob.jpg

P.S. The amount of this deal is not a reason why we would like to inform the adult community of this situation. But we were really disappointed that brokertraffic (which is pretty big adult tgp/mgp network) admits that unprofessional behavior with their clients.

Harmon 11-04-2005 01:00 PM

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Art Del Gado 11-04-2005 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harmon

nice sig spot :thumbsup

DirtyRider 11-04-2005 01:17 PM

hmm, very interesting...

justsexxx 11-04-2005 01:19 PM

Hi,

You are not alone. I heard from friends the same experiences.

May I ask you what traffic system you are using? It looks amazing, and VERY useful. Also a CTR if 13% is amazing. Good luck with your business.

Andre

Doctor Dre 11-04-2005 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harmon

Co sign ;) Topbucks dosen't shave hits !

What stats system are you using ?

spooky181 11-04-2005 01:45 PM

Rob from brokertraffic stole $600 of my money. I paid for XXX amount of hits to galleries and got 0 traffic. No refund No traffic. :(

Keep away from Brokertraffic they are crooks

Sly 11-04-2005 01:50 PM

I don't think I've heard one good thing about these guys yet, plenty of bad things though.

jrap 11-04-2005 01:58 PM

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VIPimp 11-04-2005 02:03 PM

It's been two years and Rob/brokertraffic still has not sent all the sales I had prepaid for

AmateurFlix 11-04-2005 02:30 PM

I bought a month of spots from them once and noticed the traffic volume seemed quite low for the amount of money I had spent. When I asked them about it, they agreed and even allowed me to have extra galleries approved (to get more traffic), and also said that they'd have someone look into the reason for getting so few hits to the galleries.

I asked them a few days later if they'd looked into the low traffic situation yet; their response was that yes they had, and there didn't appear to be anything wrong, but they still agreed that it wasn't sending enough hits (even with the extra approved galleries).

However they never offered to fix the situation, extend the deal, or refund any money.

They simply flat out told me they weren't sending as much as they should be and made no further effort to compensate me for it.

I didn't buy a second month there :P

MrIzzz 11-04-2005 02:43 PM

wowsa, thats alot of detail

wdsguy 11-04-2005 02:57 PM

what stats tracking software is that?

aleck 11-04-2005 03:03 PM

that's a piece of stats. lovely sw

LOK 11-04-2005 03:17 PM

We can see that brokertraffic behaved unfair and dishonest not only with us. It only proves their unprofessionality. Maybe the real owner of the brokertraffic doesn't know about harsh behavior of brokertraffic team (it they are not owners theyself). Does anyone have true owner's contacts ?

2justsexxx, Doctor Dre, wdsguy
We use custom made software. Looks good, ehh ? =) We were creating this soft for almost two years, and now we can define cheating partner accounts sellers.

Dalai lama 11-04-2005 03:27 PM

I'd like to hear the other side aswell

Vox 11-04-2005 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LOK
2justsexxx, Doctor Dre, wdsguy
We use custom made software. Looks good, ehh ? =) We were creating this soft for almost two years, and now we can define cheating partner accounts sellers.

That is a real nice stats program, will you be selling it?

justsexxx 11-04-2005 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LOK
We can see that brokertraffic behaved unfair and dishonest not only with us. It only proves their unprofessionality. Maybe the real owner of the brokertraffic doesn't know about harsh behavior of brokertraffic team (it they are not owners theyself). Does anyone have true owner's contacts ?

2justsexxx, Doctor Dre, wdsguy
We use custom made software. Looks good, ehh ? =) We were creating this soft for almost two years, and now we can define cheating partner accounts sellers.

Any change you will sell this?

BruceM 11-04-2005 06:11 PM

Yes we also wasted $500 or $600 on a campaign with Brokertraffic last year.

bashbug 11-04-2005 06:30 PM

why pay for partners when you can get free partners. some of the best partner accounts i have got just from hanging on the mgp boards.

4Pics 11-04-2005 06:33 PM

i didn't get good results either, very low delivery... but to be fair I didnt contact them about it. But it was supposed to be 100k gallery view a day for a month, and it never got near that.

If anyone else can do it, let me know :)

pornguy 11-04-2005 06:40 PM

It sucks to see something like that happen.

Jarmusch 11-04-2005 06:45 PM

Wow, alot of bad brokertraffic experiences here, thanks for the warning everyone.

Screaming 11-04-2005 06:48 PM

Traffic system looks killer.

jpoker 11-04-2005 06:50 PM

The clickthrough rates that you are showing on those stats...are those clickthroughs from gallery to sponsor? If so, those are very high. I usually find 4% is good.

LOK 11-07-2005 09:15 AM

We don't sell it at the moment, cause it's one whole system to manager galleries, submits, traffic, etc. We spent a bunch of time and money to make it. But I don't sweat we will never sell it ever =)

LOK 11-07-2005 09:40 AM

i mean But I don't swear we will never sell it ever =)

RSD 11-07-2005 09:59 AM

I just wanted to use it, but now i won't ... some one has other suggestions?

GoodGuy 11-07-2005 12:29 PM

Interesting, a software to find fake partner accounts.

ffmihai 11-07-2005 01:38 PM

uhhmm that sucks.. ill keep away then

ThumbLord 11-07-2005 03:25 PM

LOK, very very very nice galleries.

ThumbLord 11-07-2005 03:31 PM

spooky181, 4Pics, RSD and you too LOK, I like to offer all of you a free trial on http://www.buygalleryspots.com, so if you are interested please e-mail me.

LOK 11-08-2005 08:50 AM

2ThumbLord 10hahaha1093; i'll try your offer =P

seeric 11-08-2005 08:53 AM

i am lost. next time send this to me and i will write it for you for free. :) no offense.

:thumbsup

ThumbLord 11-08-2005 08:53 AM

LOK, it was nice talking to you.
next time do not forget to order a large CTR when with McDonalds LOL

LOK 11-08-2005 09:01 AM

2ThumbLord will do =P
18:39:08 ThumbLords: the above does not make us "popular" as explained it looks like you are an exception, you even check CTR most webmasters think CTR is something you can order with McDonalds
18:40:32 Loki: LOL =)) Thats why this guys eat in McDonalds. =P

jscott 11-08-2005 09:15 AM

wow man, thanks for sharing the info, guess i will keep that in mind if i ever deal with them

KingK7 11-08-2005 09:22 AM

Damn thats pretty shady shit

adultchica 11-08-2005 09:26 AM

Bluemoon, where are you?

He was just asking me why their traffic wasn't adding up a couple of days ago.

adonthenet 11-08-2005 09:26 AM

thanks for sharing bro..
I see your in the MGP area.. please if you can icq me 338847113
Thanks!

ejeet 11-08-2005 09:28 AM

Good to know, I was going to try them out :disgust

BTW, nice system LOK, I have a similar custom script :thumbsup

ejeet 11-08-2005 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LOK
2ThumbLord will do =P
18:39:08 ThumbLords: the above does not make us "popular" as explained it looks like you are an exception, you even check CTR most webmasters think CTR is something you can order with McDonalds
18:40:32 Loki: LOL =)) Thats why this guys eat in McDonalds. =P

:1orglaugh

porncargo 11-08-2005 04:28 PM

i can say that i've had a similar experience with them last year, i mean they didn't deliver the amount of traffic they promised but i managed to cover my costs and even make some money, but the second month was worst and then i decided to stop using them.

ThumbLord 11-08-2005 05:10 PM

BruceM and porncargo I am sorry but I overlooked your posts so yes the offer for you is the same as for spooky181, 4Pics, RSD but ............. I have only limited spots left.
check http://www.buygalleryspots.com

justsexxx 11-08-2005 06:13 PM

everyone reading this: I would like such stats software. Any idea where to buy/hire ppl to make it, with proven records?

LOK 11-09-2005 11:07 AM

2justsexxx we do not sell our software right now. But may be u should ask ejeet =)

ejeet 11-09-2005 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LOK
2justsexxx we do not sell our software right now. But may be u should ask ejeet =)

Sorry, I'm keeping it close to my chest too :winkwink:

ejeet 11-09-2005 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ejeet
Sorry, I'm keeping it close to my chest too :winkwink:

I also coded a system to crawl my trades from my toplist and rip out their galleries links and use it to provide a breakdown of sponsor popularity. After analyzing the data and identifying the saturated sponsors I was able to drop them, I saw a nice increase in sales :pimp

I'm a stats freak I admit it.

GoodGuy 11-09-2005 11:59 AM

I would really like to have a stats program to know what partner accounts are fake, Im sure I am wasting a lot of money in fake partner accounts right now, imagine if someone release such a software and sell it to webmasters, it will show wich tgp owners sell no worthy partner accounts. :)

AmateurFlix 11-09-2005 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justsexxx
everyone reading this: I would like such stats software. Any idea where to buy/hire ppl to make it, with proven records?

I may be interested in that as well. Probably quite a few gallery submitters would be.

Looks like a good opportunity for someone who can program it :winkwink:


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