Question: Traffic Trading Scripts and Bookmarkers = Bullshit? - GoFuckYourself.com

V_RocKs · 10-09-2005, 02:21 PM

OK... Traffic trading scripts judge bookmarkers in this manner:

LINK REL "SHORTCUT ICON" HREF "/cgi-bin/tm3/b"

(3 characters removed to pass GFY's filters)

Now... what this is doing is if someones browser asks for a favorite.ico file it counts them as a bookmarker.

Here is the flaw... Everyone who goes to your site and HAS NOT picked up a favorite icon will be counted... Bookmarkers would be the ones who DON'T get counted because they already picked one up the first time they came in!

So basically this thing is counting your NON-BOOKMARKER traffic?

V_RocKs · 10-09-2005, 02:46 PM

Or should I say it is counting the people who have never been to your website.

V_RocKs · 10-10-2005, 04:13 AM

Everybody must be planning to sell a TGP/MGP based on the amount of "bookmarkers"?

BIGTYMER · 10-10-2005, 04:19 AM

You talking to yourself again?

darksoul · 10-10-2005, 04:25 AM

thought about the same thing
this flow is in stats programs as well (like awstats)

Machete_ · 10-10-2005, 04:29 AM

That is a fucking insane amount... and in Guatemala a whole village with 1400 people was wiped from the surface of the earth by a mudslide.... a whole fucking town!!!! 1400 died a blink of an eye

But hey - its not in the US, so no headlines

V_RocKs · 10-10-2005, 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ebus_dk

That is a fucking insane amount... and in Guatemala a whole village with 1400 people was wiped from the surface of the earth by a mudslide.... a whole fucking town!!!! 1400 died a blink of an eye

But hey - its not in the US, so no headlines

#1 it is front page news... #2 keep it on topic and realize you are in the wrong fucking thread...

Machete_ · 10-10-2005, 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs

#1 it is front page news... #2 keep it on topic and realize you are in the wrong fucking thread...

christ.. im sorry - why the fuck did it end up in here?

graphical x · 10-10-2005, 04:38 AM

TGP traffic sucks smelly donkey ass. Try something better, like chatrooms or crossdex pages or wikis... do something more rewarding will ya? All that effort for 1:1000000000000000000000000 conversions. Jeez

V_RocKs · 11-28-2005, 11:48 PM

Still relevent... All of you who claim you have x number of bookmarkers are actually just full of shit. Your scripts check when someone asks for a favorite icon... That has nothing to do with bookmarking your website.

Tempest · 11-29-2005, 01:07 AM

There is no way to track "bookmark" traffic. Tracking the favicon hits only tracks for IE which these days can be as low as 80% of your surfers.. Just tracking no referers also counts crawlers,bots,spiders,anon surfers and bookmarkers. You can take the norefs, look at your favicon hits, then check out how many people search for your site..mix it all up and come up with a rough idea.. but why does it matter? At the end of the day, if you're getting 20k noref on one site and 100k noref on another, you KNOW you've got a shitload more bookmarkers on the second one.

But if you really need some number, I've found that 60%-80% of norefs gives you a good rough estimate of bookmark traffic. But your mileage may vary.

SleazyDream · 11-29-2005, 01:08 AM

if you need a trading script to tell you how many bookmarks a site has to be brutally honest you don't really know much about this biz

chadglni · 11-29-2005, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

if you need a trading script to tell you how many bookmarks a site has to be brutally honest you don't really know much about this biz

Do like Sleazy, phone them all and ask them to verify if they bookmark your site. Or don't and make up shit like "I can find out my bookmarkers with no stats and I have no hitbot traffic in my networksssssss lolz"

SleazyDream · 11-29-2005, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by chadglni

Do like Sleazy, phone them all and ask them to verify if they bookmark your site. Or don't and make up shit like "I can find out my bookmarkers with no stats and I have no hitbot traffic in my networksssssss lolz"

ummm, ok.

i love it when broke wanabeees tell me how i conduct my business.....

chadglni · 11-29-2005, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

ummm, ok.

i love it when broke wanabeees tell me how i conduct my business.....

I love it when fat canadian shitheads with a crappy TGP think they know how many bookmarkers they have when it's impossible to figure out.

Fucksakes · 11-29-2005, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

ummm, ok.

i love it when broke wanabeees tell me how i conduct my business.....

there is a spelling error on the very bottom of your site.

V_RocKs · 11-29-2005, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

ummm, ok.

i love it when broke wanabeees tell me how i conduct my business.....

I love it when a lard ass has to be smug so he can feel better when he looks in the mirror.

the Shemp · 11-29-2005, 04:49 AM

what is the definition of a bookmarker?
does he have to hit the site daily, monthly or somwhere in between?
what if he bookmarks 5 different pages on one site....is he counted as 5 or 1?

V_RocKs · 11-29-2005, 04:56 AM

I'd say... someone who comes to your site regularly. Preferably using you as his portal to porn. All of you who started sites pre 1999 have mostly the later. To them you are all facets of PORN and anyone who says otherwise is just a wiseguy with bad breath and mismatched socks.

10-10-2005, 04:25 AM	#5
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10-10-2005, 04:29 AM	#6
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11-29-2005, 04:49 AM	#18
the Shemp congrats to the winners Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Echo Beach Posts: 10,891	what is the definition of a bookmarker? does he have to hit the site daily, monthly or somwhere in between? what if he bookmarks 5 different pages on one site....is he counted as 5 or 1? __________________ i use Vacares...so should you Submit your picture galleries to my site...Outlaw TGP

10-09-2005, 02:21 PM	#1
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,409	Question: Traffic Trading Scripts and Bookmarkers = Bullshit? OK... Traffic trading scripts judge bookmarkers in this manner: LINK REL "SHORTCUT ICON" HREF "/cgi-bin/tm3/b" (3 characters removed to pass GFY's filters) Now... what this is doing is if someones browser asks for a favorite.ico file it counts them as a bookmarker. Here is the flaw... Everyone who goes to your site and HAS NOT picked up a favorite icon will be counted... Bookmarkers would be the ones who DON'T get counted because they already picked one up the first time they came in! So basically this thing is counting your NON-BOOKMARKER traffic?

10-09-2005, 02:46 PM	#2
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,409	Or should I say it is counting the people who have never been to your website.

10-10-2005, 04:13 AM	#3
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,409	Everybody must be planning to sell a TGP/MGP based on the amount of "bookmarkers"?

10-10-2005, 04:19 AM	#4
BIGTYMER Junior Achiever Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Walled Garden Posts: 17,066	You talking to yourself again?

10-10-2005, 04:38 AM	#9
graphical x Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 316	TGP traffic sucks smelly donkey ass. Try something better, like chatrooms or crossdex pages or wikis... do something more rewarding will ya? All that effort for 1:1000000000000000000000000 conversions. Jeez

11-28-2005, 11:48 PM	#10
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,409	Still relevent... All of you who claim you have x number of bookmarkers are actually just full of shit. Your scripts check when someone asks for a favorite icon... That has nothing to do with bookmarking your website.

11-29-2005, 01:07 AM	#11
Tempest Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Location: West Coast, Canada. Posts: 10,217	There is no way to track "bookmark" traffic. Tracking the favicon hits only tracks for IE which these days can be as low as 80% of your surfers.. Just tracking no referers also counts crawlers,bots,spiders,anon surfers and bookmarkers. You can take the norefs, look at your favicon hits, then check out how many people search for your site..mix it all up and come up with a rough idea.. but why does it matter? At the end of the day, if you're getting 20k noref on one site and 100k noref on another, you KNOW you've got a shitload more bookmarkers on the second one. But if you really need some number, I've found that 60%-80% of norefs gives you a good rough estimate of bookmark traffic. But your mileage may vary.

11-29-2005, 04:56 AM	#19
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,409	I'd say... someone who comes to your site regularly. Preferably using you as his portal to porn. All of you who started sites pre 1999 have mostly the later. To them you are all facets of PORN and anyone who says otherwise is just a wiseguy with bad breath and mismatched socks.