Eddie Van Halen Solo - Circa 1976 - Page 3 - GoFuckYourself.com

DeanCapture · 10-11-2005, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

All I know is, debating the merits of VH with a rap fan is like convincing a lifelong homo to change teams.

Mr. Jim · 10-11-2005, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Havalina

@ you trying to give me credit

@ you believing someone needs 'defense choices' in their argument against Van Halen.

Who the fuck is modern guitar?

Who did that influence?

Spector's productions influenced Brian Wilson, I understand.
Muddy Waters songwriting and playing influence The Stones, I understand.
VU, David Bowie. MC5, The Stooges. Guthrie, Dylan. Parsons, Neil Young, Etc.

Where is the Van Halen influence? Who can I hear that respectfully carries on his 'ENTIRE GENRE'? Slipknot? Buckethead? The Darkness? Where are the modern active musicians that give Van Halen a nod?

Why is it that the only respect i see given to Van Halen is either from

a) the people who have nostalgic emotional ties to the music and era
b) aspiring guitar athletics virtuosos

I-N M-Y B-O-O-K....INFLUENCE? DENIED.

I never intended to come in here and discredit Van Halen. Don't try giving me shit. Maybe it's just me but some of you guys are looking really desperate and challenged, calling me shit, assuming what i like, assuming what i do. Smells of 10 year olds defending the fact that they ate their own boogers. I listened and it bored me. It's a messageboard, let it go. Don't be a lame.

It is an adult business message board...and it supports the members who support the economy of this community and based on your opinions...conduct...and inability to step down when you have clearly been shown other perspectives you have confirmed ......

1. You have poor communiation and negotiation skills and even when presented with factual information still maintain an arrogant and ignorant position.

2. This means for me I would walk the other way with any business dealings with you on any level.

3. You would make a terrible employee.... disrespectful, self indulgent, self rightious, immature, and frankly....not very bright when it comes to "playing nice with others"

4.Message boards are a business, and your conduct and characteristics demonstrate your inability to play at a high level

5. Keep in mind it is how you interact as much as what you say. I dont mind that you have a personal dislike for a particular musician and that you are the one who looks like the uninformed unenlightened 20 year old immature bratty kid... it is the fact you cant have an opposing opinion without assuming there are those out there who can justify the credibility, clearly demonstarte the merit and influence, and you still choose to take your own personal opinion over fact.

This has nothing to do with the Band, the music, or even the rock music genre to me... it has become a contest of watching someone completely destroy any and all credibility... your opinion has not made a nay sayer out of me... your attitude has.

I hope you can take a real lesson from this.... sometimes what you say can be less important as how you say it....

I just think you are a hard headed kid who does not know when to shut up... you are entitled to your opinion but that does not mean your opinion is correct. If you wanted to claim a fucking coke bottle was GOD that is up to you but go sell crazy someplace else.... your opinions are clear here the only thing you are doing now is looking like a child who wont go to bed....as a word of solid strong advice.... quit... its no longer about music... its about you not knowing when to stop... I know the next comment will be who am I, who cares what I think, Fuck you, A couple little laugh icons, do I know who you are, you are pimp, etc. but seriously...

stop...

and dont be a dickhead... the man is a legend and you are just a fool who wont give up a point... and I have $100.00 that says you dont leave the thread alone...

for the same reason you will never do biz with me... too fucking arrogant to shut up

why listen to me.... because I have the power to take the unemployed....

...and employ them

potter · 10-11-2005, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim Hustler

It is an adult business message board...and it supports the members who support the economy of this community and based on your opinions...conduct...and inability to step down when you have clearly been shown other perspectives you have confirmed ......

1. You have poor communiation and negotiation skills and even when presented with factual information still maintain an arrogant and ignorant position.

2. This means for me I would walk the other way with any business dealings with you on any level.

3. You would make a terrible employee.... disrespectful, self indulgent, self rightious, immature, and frankly....not very bright when it comes to "playing nice with others"

4.Message boards are a business, and your conduct and characteristics demonstrate your inability to play at a high level

5. Keep in mind it is how you interact as much as what you say. I dont mind that you have a personal dislike for a particular musician and that you are the one who looks like the uninformed unenlightened 20 year old immature bratty kid... it is the fact you cant have an opposing opinion without assuming there are those out there who can justify the credibility, clearly demonstarte the merit and influence, and you still choose to take your own personal opinion over fact.

This has nothing to do with the Band, the music, or even the rock music genre to me... it has become a contest of watching someone completely destroy any and all credibility... your opinion has not made a nay sayer out of me... your attitude has.

I hope you can take a real lesson from this.... sometimes what you say can be less important as how you say it....

I just think you are a hard headed kid who does not know when to shut up... you are entitled to your opinion but that does not mean your opinion is correct. If you wanted to claim a fucking coke bottle was GOD that is up to you but go sell crazy someplace else.... your opinions are clear here the only thing you are doing now is looking like a child who wont go to bed....as a word of solid strong advice.... quit... its no longer about music... its about you not knowing when to stop... I know the next comment will be who am I, who cares what I think, Fuck you, A couple little laugh icons, do I know who you are, you are pimp, etc. but seriously...

stop...

and dont be a dickhead... the man is a legend and you are just a fool who wont give up a point... and I have $100.00 that says you dont leave the thread alone...

for the same reason you will never do biz with me... too fucking arrogant to shut up

why listen to me.... because I have the power to take the unemployed....

...and employ them

wow... well said.

SilentKnight · 10-11-2005, 10:56 AM

That's the most eloquent verbal whippin' I've had the pleasure of reading in a loooooong while!

Simply amazing.

jonesy · 10-11-2005, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Hustler

It is an adult business message board...and it supports the members who support the economy of this community and based on your opinions...conduct...and inability to step down when you have clearly been shown other perspectives you have confirmed ......

1. You have poor communiation and negotiation skills and even when presented with factual information still maintain an arrogant and ignorant position.

2. This means for me I would walk the other way with any business dealings with you on any level.

3. You would make a terrible employee.... disrespectful, self indulgent, self rightious, immature, and frankly....not very bright when it comes to "playing nice with others"

4.Message boards are a business, and your conduct and characteristics demonstrate your inability to play at a high level

5. Keep in mind it is how you interact as much as what you say. I dont mind that you have a personal dislike for a particular musician and that you are the one who looks like the uninformed unenlightened 20 year old immature bratty kid... it is the fact you cant have an opposing opinion without assuming there are those out there who can justify the credibility, clearly demonstarte the merit and influence, and you still choose to take your own personal opinion over fact.

This has nothing to do with the Band, the music, or even the rock music genre to me... it has become a contest of watching someone completely destroy any and all credibility... your opinion has not made a nay sayer out of me... your attitude has.

I hope you can take a real lesson from this.... sometimes what you say can be less important as how you say it....

I just think you are a hard headed kid who does not know when to shut up... you are entitled to your opinion but that does not mean your opinion is correct. If you wanted to claim a fucking coke bottle was GOD that is up to you but go sell crazy someplace else.... your opinions are clear here the only thing you are doing now is looking like a child who wont go to bed....as a word of solid strong advice.... quit... its no longer about music... its about you not knowing when to stop... I know the next comment will be who am I, who cares what I think, Fuck you, A couple little laugh icons, do I know who you are, you are pimp, etc. but seriously...

stop...

and dont be a dickhead... the man is a legend and you are just a fool who wont give up a point... and I have $100.00 that says you dont leave the thread alone...

for the same reason you will never do biz with me... too fucking arrogant to shut up

why listen to me.... because I have the power to take the unemployed....

...and employ them

poetry....

$pikes · 10-11-2005, 11:57 PM

Thanks! That Rocked!

$pikes · 10-12-2005, 12:08 AM

Now I remember this but I can't find my copy of the tape...

From what I understand this is from a bootleg called "Die Laughing". It's a recording of one of the last backyard parties they preformed. Van Halen had just recorded their first album but it hadn't been released in stores yet. The guitar world didn't know "eruption" yet and if you heard the entire concert you would hear that the audience applause after the solo was very small compaired to the size of the crowd. Nobody "got it" yet.

Good stuff. Post the whole show if you can find it. It's great and they even played songs that didn't appear until Halen's 3rd-4th albums.

Havalina · 10-12-2005, 01:13 AM

I was gonna icq you but you dont got a number up so....here you go:

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Originally Posted by Jim Hustler

It is an adult business message board...and it supports the members who support the economy of this community and based on your opinions...conduct...and inability to step down when you have clearly been shown other perspectives you have confirmed ......

1. You have poor communiation and negotiation skills and even when presented with factual information still maintain an arrogant and ignorant position.

This factual information sure is elusive, why doesn't someone, anyone for fucks sake present some to me. That's all I've been asking for in this thread. I just wanted someone to quote my questions and points and argue them.

I'm not posting here to play nice. I'm not posting here to 'negotiate' you into liking what you like more or less than you do. I'm not posting here to get a job. I'm not posting here to impress a potential employer. I'm not posting here to win. I'm posting in this thread to argue my point, and hear what someone has to say about it.

Clearly it's all business and politics with you folks, and anything less scans as bratty immature snobbery. I've learned this is clearly not the place to discuss anything but business and I'm looking forward to all the time that'll save me.

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2. This means for me I would walk the other way with any business dealings with you on any level.

3. You would make a terrible employee.... disrespectful, self indulgent, self rightious, immature, and frankly....not very bright when it comes to "playing nice with others"

Guy, never in my life would I be looking to be employed full time by a tight ass like yourself, or anyone else for that matter. I'm not looking to be a 'team player' or whatever other bland characteristic you look for in people. I'm looking for odd jobs to around the industry to get acquainted with how things work and fund my experimenting. So I think I'll just go on being 'immature,bratty,disrespectful,self indulgent, arrogant, self righteous, immature,' as long as I keep making enough of a living from being a musician so that i don't have to crawl and bark for a self serving fatcat who likes to throw his weight around while the iron is hot and fanboys egg him on.

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5. Keep in mind it is how you interact as much as what you say. I dont mind that you have a personal dislike for a particular musician and that you are the one who looks like the uninformed unenlightened 20 year old immature bratty kid... it is the fact you cant have an opposing opinion without assuming there are those out there who can justify the credibility, clearly demonstarte the merit and influence, and you still choose to take your own personal opinion over fact.

The dislike isn't personal. And there you go again talking about people demonstrating shit when not one person has quoted and addressed anything I've brought up. Once again let me remind you, that this makes your 'observations' about me which I see as desperate personal selfserving attacks all the more dismissable.

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This has nothing to do with the Band, the music, or even the rock music genre to me... it has become a contest of watching someone completely destroy any and all credibility... your opinion has not made a nay sayer out of me... your attitude has.

I hope you can take a real lesson from this.... sometimes what you say can be less important as how you say it....

Dude with the way you gauge 'credibility' I should be as lifeless and efficient as those meandering guitar solos. I can only hope, pray and wish I never adopt the attitudes and standards by which you measure people against yourself.

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I hope you can take a real lesson from this.... sometimes what you say can be less important as how you say it....

I just think you are a hard headed kid who does not know when to shut up... you are entitled to your opinion but that does not mean your opinion is correct. If you wanted to claim a fucking coke bottle was GOD that is up to you but go sell crazy someplace else.... your opinions are clear here the only thing you are doing now is looking like a child who wont go to bed....as a word of solid strong advice.... quit... its no longer about music... its about you not knowing when to stop... I know the next comment will be who am I, who cares what I think, Fuck you, A couple little laugh icons, do I know who you are, you are pimp, etc. but seriously...

stop...

and dont be a dickhead... the man is a legend and you are just a fool who wont give up a point... and I have $100.00 that says you dont leave the thread alone...

for the same reason you will never do biz with me... too fucking arrogant to shut up

Yeah I'm taking a lesson. The lesson is don't talk objectively and aggressively about something not relevent to the business without expecting to be chastised. Better yet, don't 'talk' here at all.

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why listen to me.... because I have the power to take the unemployed....

...and employ them

How did you not cringe when typing that?

Jimbo, I'm willing to admit that I came off as an elitist trying to pick a fight amongst fanboys.

I hope you're willing to admit that you're Al Gore.

...341-717-414....if you wanna get points across without the fanboys.

reynold · 10-12-2005, 02:09 AM

He has a cool guitar.

jonesy · 10-12-2005, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Havalina

. I'm not posting here to get a job. I'm not posting here to impress a potential employer. .

really not looking for a job huh?

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=525080

I'm Looking For Work, Is Anyone Hiring?

I can do:

Basic HTML
Data Entry
Email
Phones
Etc.

I am just starting out in this industry and I need some supplementary income. I've available at all times. I live in new york. I have no other responsibilities outside of working in this industry except for my work as a musician, so I'm ultimately flexible.

Part time, full time, whatever's clever. I'm cool, positive and more than willing to learn.

Look forward to hearing from some of you guys.

I'm cool, positive and more than willing to learn.

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Originally Posted by Havalina

I'm posting in this thread to argue my point, and hear what someone has to say about it. Yeah I'm taking a lesson. The lesson is don't talk objectively and aggressively about something not relevent to the business without expecting to be chastised. Better yet, don't 'talk' here at all..

you never brought anything to the table other than your obvious trite condescending comments which came off as sophmoric rants and highschool cutdowns - OBVIOUS.

It was obvious what you were doing and peopele picked up on it and played along, ripped your ass and your cred and now your crying about it - you owned yourself asshole.

your a garden variety troll, just another douchbag in a long line of them here at gfy.

whatever cred you might have had has disapated.

now run along ....

Havalina · 10-12-2005, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jonesy

I don't have fundamental reading comprehension skills.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=525080

I'm Looking For Work, Is Anyone Hiring?

I can do:

Basic HTML
Data Entry
Email
Phones
Etc.

I am just starting out in this industry and I need some supplementary income. I've available at all times. I live in new york. I have no other responsibilities outside of working in this industry except for my work as a musician, so I'm ultimately flexible.

Part time, full time, whatever's clever. I'm cool, positive and more than willing to learn.

Look forward to hearing from some of you guys.

I'm cool, positive and more than willing to learn.

you never brought anything to the table other than your obvious trite condescending comments which came off as sophmoric rants and highschool cutdowns - OBVIOUS.

It was obvious what you were doing and peopele picked up on it and played along, ripped your ass and your cred and now your crying about it - you owned yourself asshole.

your a garden variety troll, just another douchbag in a long line of them here at gfy.

whatever cred you might have had has disapated.

now run along ....

dig420 · 10-12-2005, 12:41 PM

Van Halen is cool, I liked to listen to them when I was still in high school and into the 'guitar god' thing, but I'll still choose Angus Young over Eddie every time.

As I get older I like the more melodious type work rather than the super aggressive hard edged solo stuff. Peter Frampton on 'Do you feel like I do', when he finally quits talking on his guitar and goes nuts at the end is good shit.

early 70's Jimmy Page is still the uber-rocker guitar god imho.

CDSmith · 10-12-2005, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Havalina

Clearly it's all business and politics with you folks, and anything less scans as bratty immature snobbery. I've learned this is clearly not the place to discuss anything but business and I'm looking forward to all the time that'll save me

Uh, no. He was simply suggesting that you consider your business standing before choosing to mouth off at people here, that's all. By and large that is fairly sound advice, but especially so for newbs.

Plus it helps us weed out and separate the surfers from the webmasters. :D

jonesy · 10-12-2005, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Havalina

I'm not posting here to get a job..

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=525080

I'm Looking For Work, Is Anyone Hiring?

I can do:

Basic HTML
Data Entry
Email
Phones
Etc.

I am just starting out in this industry and I need some supplementary income. I've available at all times. I live in new york. I have no other responsibilities outside of working in this industry except for my work as a musician, so I'm ultimately flexible.

Part time, full time, whatever's clever. I'm cool, positive and more than willing to learn.

Look forward to hearing from some of you guys.

CDSmith · 10-12-2005, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420

Van Halen is cool, I liked to listen to them when I was still in high school and into the 'guitar god' thing, but I'll still choose Angus Young over Eddie every time.

As I get older I like the more melodious type work rather than the super aggressive hard edged solo stuff. Peter Frampton on 'Do you feel like I do', when he finally quits talking on his guitar and goes nuts at the end is good shit.

early 70's Jimmy Page is still the uber-rocker guitar god imho.

Also:
Tom Scholtz of Boston
Neal Schon fr the original Journey

Havalina · 10-12-2005, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith

Uh, no. He was simply suggesting that you consider your business standing before choosing to mouth off at people here, that's all. By and large that is fairly sound advice, but especially so for newbs.

Plus it helps us weed out and separate the surfers from the webmasters. :D

Like I said in the quote you have in your last post.....

CDSmith · 10-12-2005, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonesy

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=525080

I'm Looking For Work, Is Anyone Hiring?

I can do:

Basic HTML
Data Entry
Email
Phones
Etc.

I am just starting out in this industry and I need some supplementary income. I've available at all times. I live in new york. I have no other responsibilities outside of working in this industry except for my work as a musician, so I'm ultimately flexible.

Part time, full time, whatever's clever. I'm cool, positive and more than willing to learn.

Look forward to hearing from some of you guys.

CDSmith · 10-12-2005, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Havalina

Like I said in the quote you have in your last post.....

Read the board guy, all sorts of horseshit gets talked about here.... not just business & politics.

SilentKnight · 10-12-2005, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dig420

early 70's Jimmy Page is still the uber-rocker guitar god imho.

SilentKnight · 10-12-2005, 01:37 PM

He posts a photo of cheerleaders in response to Jonesy's "looking for employment' message link that once again demonstrates the troll's hypocrisy.

I hear the local adult vidstore is lookin' for someone to clean the video viewing booths havalina.

Who says America isn't the land of opportunity...

dig420 · 10-12-2005, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

Also:
Tom Scholtz of Boston
Neal Schon fr the original Journey

I think Neal Schon used to play for Santana before he was with Journey.

Kinda funny, Journey would put out these treacly sacharrine sweet MOR 'rock' songs that were all tame and limp and then all of a sudden here comes this monster badass Neal Schon solo out of nowhere. I hate Journey but I would listen to the whole song just to hear Neal come stomping in and run over everybody.

Havalina, you just don't know when to quit do you?

jonesy · 10-12-2005, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by dig420

I think Neal Schon used to play for Santana before he was with Journey.

Kinda funny, Journey would put out these treacly sacharrine sweet MOR 'rock' songs that were all tame and limp and then all of a sudden here comes this monster badass Neal Schon solo out of nowhere. I hate Journey but I would listen to the whole song just to hear Neal come stomping in and run over everybody.

Havalina, you just don't know when to quit do you?

neil schon was 16 when he was in santana - and old story goes that schon wanted to kick santana out of his own band.

greg rolie who was santanas keyboard player at the time left with schon to form journey.

tom scholz recorded most of the first boston record in his apartment with a little thing he invented called a the Power Soak. This power soak allows the amp to achieve great sound at low volumes and sounded as big as a wall of amplifiers, it was later was named the Rockman which was a little bigger than the size of a peanut butter sandwich and became a big selling and used piece of equipment in the 80's and is still used today.

neverlearn · 10-12-2005, 04:53 PM

You mean all that stuff Im listening too while drinking beer is art...party on dudes!

EXCELLLEEENT!!!!!

Walrus · 10-14-2005, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

And lastly, one sign of maturity is having the ability to, although not liking a particular brand of music, to nonetheless be able to see the talent behind it. Case in point: I do not like 99% of country, but I can see the talent behind a few such artists and what pure entertainers some have become. To me the music sucks though, give me VH any day.... but I can acknowledge the talent. Can you?

I couldn't agree with you more. All too often I see comments by people like the one by Havalina that discredit a song or an artist simply because they don't like their music. Just earlier I was discussing Warren Zevon with someone. I said I don't like any of his songs except for two. But at the same time I made it aware that I think he was a great songwriter and musician. I almost wish I could like his music a lot more than I do. And I will continue to try actually. I have his Greatest Hits. Some times music can grow on you.

SilentKnight · 10-15-2005, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Walrus

I couldn't agree with you more. All too often I see comments by people like the one by Havalina that discredit a song or an artist simply because they don't like their music. Just earlier I was discussing Warren Zevon with someone. I said I don't like any of his songs except for two. But at the same time I made it aware that I think he was a great songwriter and musician. I almost wish I could like his music a lot more than I do. And I will continue to try actually. I have his Greatest Hits. Some times music can grow on you.

I was the same way with Harry Chapin music. I knew he was a great songwriter and storyteller...but could never get into his music for the longest time. I never put it down, it just wasn't my taste.

Times change of course, and now that I'm in my forties I finally have an appreciation for his great talent - and have a long list of favorite tunes he did.

SilentKnight

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SilentKnight Megan Fox's fluffer Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: shooting pool in Elysium Posts: 24,818	He posts a photo of cheerleaders in response to Jonesy's "looking for employment' message link that once again demonstrates the troll's hypocrisy. I hear the local adult vidstore is lookin' for someone to clean the video viewing booths havalina. Who says America isn't the land of opportunity...