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Old 10-11-2005, 12:23 PM   #51
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Old 10-11-2005, 12:57 PM   #52
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im not saying its not yours, theres no need for the receipt. neither am i saying you dont have a right to surgery. what im saying is, anyone who does it does it for the looks. anyone who denies that must have issues lying to himself AND to others on a topic that is obviously all about looks. what im also saying is that women focus a lot more on their apparence than men. now you can still try and come up with individual cases but im stating facts. i do admit i am biased since i hang around pretty girls who are obviously more superficial than average. it does not change the fact that women have a hard time accepting themselves and therefore have a lot more to prove
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Old 10-11-2005, 01:48 PM   #53
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Your thoughts? I don't really see anything wrong with it as long as it's done for the right reasons (you do it for yourself) and if you know when to stop! I hear so many stories of women getting addicted to it...My question is how do they pay for all this shit???

Sometimes insurance will pick it up. I was on one PS forum and a lady had her insurance pay for her rhinoplasty because her doctor diagnosed her as having a 'breathing problem caused by a nasal deformity' or something like that.

I paid for my surgery by working like mad for a few months and saving the money. Other people I've met online have gotten bank loans or even financed it through companies like Medicredit. On one forum, a woman went 28,000 in debt (via loans) to get everything she wanted done at once.

One thing I do advise is making sure that you have money for the surgery on hand, plus some extra money in case things don't turn out the way that you want. That way you can have it fixed right away instead of having to wait to get more money.

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Old 10-11-2005, 01:49 PM   #54
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nothing wrong with plastic surgery. GOOD plastic surgeons are my heroes...
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Old 10-11-2005, 01:52 PM   #55
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Plastic surgery is for the extremely insecure, and plastic surgeons feed on that insecurity.

And you know damn well women don't do it for themself, they do it to compete with the other women doing it. If you want to do something for yourself, be happy with yourself the way you are, yourself will really appreciate it.
I didn't get my surgery because I was insecure. I just wanted to look better. Because I look better, I do feel better on the inside.
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Old 10-11-2005, 02:00 PM   #56
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Nothing wrong with it. I would do it if I weren't such a damn chicken because of the anaesthesia and the pain. I did consider getting breast augmentation before but I never went through it.

About the putting makeup thing on, yea I'm 27 and I still put on makeup everyday and just about all my friends do too. I'm a bit high maintenace so it takes me around 30-40 min just to do my makeup and that's just for everyday life but there's nothing wrong with it if it makes you happy. I REFUSE to leave the house bare-faced, even for errands like buying groceries. I just always like to look my best because it's important to me and you never know who you are going to run into.

I admit if I get plastic surgery done, it wouldn't be just for me, it is for attention. Even though I'm not a porn model or anything like that, just a webmaster, I'm still pretty vain and into myself, but lots of people are so it's not like I'm the only one. Right now I have other plans with my money so i don't really want to waste it on plastic surgery, also I look pretty young and good, but if I ever get wrinkles or anything like that I might consider it. Also I would never get anything like that financed, I would pay for it at once, with my own money.... no sugar daddy for me...

I would make sure to research and get the best board-certified surgeons and make sure they don't have any malpractice suits or anything like that.

It is important to have a good head on your shoulders though, because some friends I know are weird, they are never happy with their looks no matter what,if they fix their boobs, they are going to be unhappy with their nose and then stomach... Some people are just never happy and I know surgeouns screen for that as well, so they don't get whack patients who come back and shoot them because they weren't happy with a nose job.

I do admit that if i do get surgery it it's all for looks. Yea I'm superficial and not afraid to admit it. I work hard for my own money, it's earned by hard work and i can choose to spend it on whatever i like, no one can tell me any different.

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Old 10-11-2005, 02:06 PM   #57
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And about the competition thing, it's true, we do compete among ourselves. At least me and my friends do, we talk A LOT about who's hotter than who, and "hey that chick is gorgeous , I wish I looked like her" and all that other petty stuff...

A lot of it IS competition, but I'm not afraid to admit it though. Yea, I AM shallow and I DO compete. Most of my friends do too but it's not something we like to admit to others, we only talk about it among ourselves, it's something like an open secret. I know not ALL women are like this, some really don't care about looks. But me and the people I hang with DO, so I know that the
competition factor with other women does persuade some people to get surgery.
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Old 10-11-2005, 05:52 PM   #58
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JMoney.... you said:

im not saying its not yours, theres no need for the receipt. neither am i saying you dont have a right to surgery. what im saying is, anyone who does it does it for the looks.
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That is the point of the surgery...to look and feel better about oneself...not denying that. -------

anyone who denies that must have issues lying to himself AND to others on a topic that is obviously all about looks. what im also saying is that women focus a lot more on their apparence than men. now you can still try and come up with individual cases but im stating facts.
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Yeah, we do. We HAVE to. Media...remember. I seldom wear makeup unless I am doing a shoot. I'm a makeup artist and to tell the truth, I put it on other people so much I tire of putting it on myself. So the makeup thing too, is depending on the chic. Phogirl won't leave the heezie without it, and I envy her..I used to do makeup every morning..but now...(whew) like I said...I do it so much for others, that I dread picking up the blush brush. Don't get me wrong..I LOVE MAKEUP...but I only do it for others now. My face is ok without it..at least, others agree with me on that one, too.
We HAVE TO LOOK GOOD. It is expected of us to. Men...(lol)

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i do admit i am biased since i hang around pretty girls who are obviously more superficial than average. it does not change the fact that women have a hard time accepting themselves and therefore have a lot more to prove
ill be waiting on your reply
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Yeah, we do. And pretty girls ARE more superficial because we have to keep up the image and the whole persona of what we create (especially us chics online..more pressure to keep up.)So, you are right...you just came off wrong in the intial post...
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Old 10-11-2005, 05:57 PM   #59
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[QUOTE=minaroyale]JMoney.... you said:


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Yeah, we do. We HAVE to. Media...remember. I seldom wear makeup unless I am doing a shoot. I'm a makeup artist and to tell the truth, I put it on other people so much I tire of putting it on myself. So the makeup thing too, is depending on the chic. Phogirl won't leave the heezie without it, and I envy her..I used to do makeup every morning..but now...(whew) like I said...I do it so much for others, that I dread picking up the blush brush. Don't get me wrong..I LOVE MAKEUP...but I only do it for others now. My face is ok without it..at least, others agree with me on that one, too.
We HAVE TO LOOK GOOD. It is expected of us to. Men...(lol)

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Yea, I am addicted to makeup, I go to makeupalley.com all the time and read reviews on EVERYTHING before I buy it. Pls I have all the MAC brushes, I love to pretend I'm a makeup artist and do smoky eyes and all that crap. Makeup is like art, you can make yourself look any way you want. I am truly addicted.
Putting makeup on is also like a ritual, sometimes it calmes me when I am stressed out.
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Old 10-12-2005, 06:12 AM   #60
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Phogirl..if you do all that...(I used to work for MAC)
Go get yourself a model's discount. Ask for an application for a discount card. For models I think it's 25%. Save money on your makeup, gal.

MUA's get like 40%-50% depending on your work and how much you show them.

It's a ritual, yes, and it IS calming. But being in a room full of 50 models 30mins before showtime and all of them need makeup...that, THAT is not calming..that is insane- but I LOVE my work.

Been there.

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Old 10-14-2005, 05:20 PM   #61
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Phogirl..if you do all that...(I used to work for MAC)
Go get yourself a model's discount. Ask for an application for a discount card. For models I think it's 25%. Save money on your makeup, gal.

MUA's get like 40%-50% depending on your work and how much you show them.

It's a ritual, yes, and it IS calming. But being in a room full of 50 models 30mins before showtime and all of them need makeup...that, THAT is not calming..that is insane- but I LOVE my work.

Been there.

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I don't think I can get a discount, because I'm not a model, just a webmaster.... I don't buy lot of makeup anymore, but I have tons saved up from a long time ago, even though I use it a lot it seems to last forever.
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Old 10-14-2005, 05:26 PM   #62
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Honestly, 75% of the time I think girls who get boob jobs are LESS attractive after the surgery. Add a tattoo to complete the transition. They just look like hoes.

I can see it only in cases of severe disfigurement, or for small operations such as removing blemishes, etc..

The girl on Larry King recently has had like 30 operations. She is a monster. Sad.
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Old 10-14-2005, 05:32 PM   #63
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Did anyone watch that crazy lady on CNN Larry King last night? 29 years old, 30 PLASTIC SURGERIES, and wants more...........
Here is a transcript (it's a long read, probably a bit boring but she is seriously messed up) Larry King transcripts with Jenny Lee
Here is her personal website Jenny Lee's Website

They showed her before and after photos on the show last night, she was a very beautiful woman before! After she looks like, well, a plastic nightmare.

She was one of those people that didn't need any of them, and now she's hooked.
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OOOps, her website is down. Sorry guys. It appears as though after the Larry King show last night, she got a sh*tload of traffic and they shut it down.
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Old 10-14-2005, 07:11 PM   #65
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Did anyone watch that crazy lady on CNN Larry King last night? 29 years old, 30 PLASTIC SURGERIES, and wants more...........
Here is a transcript (it's a long read, probably a bit boring but she is seriously messed up) Larry King transcripts with Jenny Lee
Here is her personal website Jenny Lee's Website

They showed her before and after photos on the show last night, she was a very beautiful woman before! After she looks like, well, a plastic nightmare.

She was one of those people that didn't need any of them, and now she's hooked.
I watched it, she sort of looked funny afterwards. Especially near the end of the show where they were showing her putting makeup on and stuff.

It's sort of like how all people with downs syndrome have similar facial characteristics, same with these addicted to plastic surgery.
I've seen a few of these women on different shows and they all sort of get the same characteristics and weird look.

But it's her body and I am a firm believer that she can do what she wants to with it.
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And about the competition thing, it's true, we do compete among ourselves. At least me and my friends do, we talk A LOT about who's hotter than who, and "hey that chick is gorgeous , I wish I looked like her" and all that other petty stuff...

A lot of it IS competition, but I'm not afraid to admit it though. Yea, I AM shallow and I DO compete. Most of my friends do too but it's not something we like to admit to others, we only talk about it among ourselves, it's something like an open secret. I know not ALL women are like this, some really don't care about looks. But me and the people I hang with DO, so I know that the
competition factor with other women does persuade some people to get surgery.
wow, an honest woman. maybe there is hope for the world yet.
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Jenny lee is an example of gone TOO FAR. But, it's her body and she can do what she wants to. So....hey....
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Old 10-15-2005, 06:48 AM   #68
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We're social creatures. We like being attractive to others and accepted by them. Plastic surgery is just an extension of that as is working out. Sure, part of it is for one's self, but it has a whole lot to do with wanting to look good to other people, no matter how much people deny it.

Their are limits and obviously different degrees to which one should use things like plastic surgery.
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Old 10-18-2005, 06:53 AM   #69
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GOOD plastic surgery. Cindy Jackson...the living barbie doll...(and MILF)
www.cindyjackson.com

BAD...

I'll leave that up to personal opinion.

Whoa.
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