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Old 09-22-2005, 03:30 AM   #1
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traffic_addict! I can't believe I missed you in Amsterdam. I spoke to Adam and he's a great guy. Next time I definately have to share a drink with you. Hope you had a nice time in Amsterdam though. ;)

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traffic_addict! I can't believe I missed you in Amsterdam. I spoke to Adam and he's a great guy. Next time I definately have to share a drink with you. Hope you had a nice time in Amsterdam though. ;)

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Amsterdam was great for us, lots of business
I hope we will have a chance to get together in the LA or Vegas show
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wow thats just great: that asks for another PROMO to encourage your webmasters! lol :-)
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Old 09-22-2005, 06:10 AM   #16
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ClickCash/iFriends bigger than all of you combined and their affiliates make more money. Of course they don't accept scammers and spammers but other cam sponsors open their arms to them.
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Old 09-22-2005, 07:09 AM   #18
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Old 09-22-2005, 07:16 AM   #20
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ClickCash/iFriends bigger than all of you combined and their affiliates make more money. Of course they don't accept scammers and spammers but other cam sponsors open their arms to them.
Checkout the numbers, they say it all
Ifriends are going done

And keep in mind that we don't work with mailers not double-optins, not triple optins, and no members

By the way I don't see any of their affiliates, not even the bigest one doing a $100 per signup

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Old 09-22-2005, 07:25 AM   #21
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Sounds good to me, I better grab some hosted galleries : )
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Old 09-22-2005, 11:04 AM   #28
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wow thats just great: that asks for another PROMO to encourage your webmasters! lol :-)
We have a $100 per signup today, I guess that should do the job
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Old 09-22-2005, 12:21 PM   #32
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how do alexa stats make you "the biggest webcam site on the net"? raw hits and income are two different things. if anyone believes that you make more money than ifriends given the vast difference in the time both sites have been online, they understand nothing about this business. you would need at least a few more years and an act of god devistating ifriends.com for you to be bigger than them in terms of revenues.
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Old 09-22-2005, 12:35 PM   #33
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how do alexa stats make you "the biggest webcam site on the net"? raw hits and income are two different things. if anyone believes that you make more money than ifriends given the vast difference in the time both sites have been online, they understand nothing about this business. you would need at least a few more years and an act of god devistating ifriends.com for you to be bigger than them in terms of revenues.
I don't know what Ifriends revenues are, but I also know that you have no idea what is ImLive revenue as well.

Time has nothing to do with revenue, I can show you programs that have uploaded 2 months ago that are doing more then programs that are online for over 7 years!

As I have said in the beginning ImLive is the biggest webcam on the net according to Alexa, not according to revenues.

And keep in mind that we are getting bigger every day and Ifriends are losing their hosts, users and webmasters to the many better programs that are out there

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I wish iFriends are losing their hosts....I wouldn't mind if they lose most of them and leave a handful there to reap all the benefits .
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I don't know what Ifriends revenues are, but I also know that you have no idea what is ImLive revenue as well.

Time has nothing to do with revenue, I can show you programs that have uploaded 2 months ago that are doing more then programs that are online for over 7 years!

As I have said in the beginning ImLive is the biggest webcam on the net according to Alexa, not according to revenues.

And keep in mind that we are getting bigger every day and Ifriends are losing their hosts, users and webmasters to the many better programs that are out there

you cant show me a cam site that has been online for 2 months that is big. this is what we are talking about. it does not work like that. you can't send 1,000,000 hits a day to 10 girls and have 3000 sales a day. In case people dont understand the business and how sales work, its a business that depends on members being able to actually buy time to spend with a girl. there is a finite number of girls and a finite amount of model time online and thus a finite amount of time users will spend with models. its not a static paysite that can handle 5000 or even unlimited joins a day with consistent recurring sales.

i can assume that the high average for any girls on your site being in private sessions is about 20% of their total online time (a very generous number). its about X number of new users per day, number of rooms online and time to build repeat sales/customers. it does not take a genuis to do the math and come up with some close estimates of what your revenue are but the wild card is estimating how many of your girls have 6-12 or more profiles each.

in the cam business time has EVERYTHING to do with revenue. EVERYTHING. if you have not figured that simple truth out.... you have a long way to go and its a clear indication that you do not have much of a history looking at the numbers. its all about repeat sales and the time it takes to build a massive base of repeat users.... how fast that happens depends on the balance of total users in and the total girls online that can talk to them.

You have a site thats barely been online for a year and a 1/2 and i dont have to know your revenue because i know this business very well... and just knowing the impact of time on repeat sales tells me you are not even in the neighborhood of Lars or Ifriends and so on in terms of actual revenue.

as far as i know, Ifriends is well into the 9 digits in annual revenue and has been for quite a few years.


I wish you luck. I know you guys have seen some pretty good growth and are doing well. Ifriends has always ignored the models and their needs and thats why they are fucked when competition exploded. you can't pay a chick in Romania or St Petersburg with a check that takes 60 or more days to clear... and thats just the tip of the iceburg. 1,000,000 webmaster marketing tools mean nothing if most models hate working for you.
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i also frequently check everyones revenue by the way. either with my own studios or other people i know in the biz. its not hard - you just put 3 hot models online 24hrs a day,... be as consistent as possible for a week and see what sales they do and then take a look at average total models online at any given moment and you can estimate it with some degree of certainty when it comes to chat time (although not with other upsells).

there are no secrets when you are paying models/studios a % of revenues ;)
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it does not take a genuis to do the math and come up with some close estimates of what your revenue are but the wild card is estimating how many of your girls have 6-12 or more profiles each.

You have a site thats barely been online for a year and a 1/2 and i dont have to know your revenue because i know this business very well... and just knowing the impact of time on repeat sales tells me you are not even in the neighborhood of Lars or Ifriends and so on in terms of actual revenue.
Just to make things clearer, All our hosts has only one profile not 6 - 12 like Ifriends is doing, so now you can do a better math. I have an average of 600 hosts online in any given min, and Ifriends has about 2500 (but each host has 10 profiles) So I guess I have more hosts then Ifriends or Lars for that metter

And ImLive is already up for over 3 years not 1 and a half.

I think that after you'll see this info you will change your mind about knowing this business very well
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And ImLive is already up for over 3 years not 1 and a half.

I think that after you'll see this info you will change your mind about knowing this business very well
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sigh.. my bad. i see the domain was registered in 01. i dont remember when you launched. but i have been doing this since 97, so its not like i am just making up numbers or guessing at how the business works.
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Ifriends has a nifty button to show only unique hosts. They also have another half dozen or more entry pages tracked by alexa.
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TA after meeting you in Amsterdam and learning alot more about you and your company it's no surprise to me at all. Your 110% focus on running a top notch company and providing the best solution possible is why you guys are at the top of the game.

And on a personal note I'm humbled to see we're 9th ... but watch out we're growing strong ;)
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TA after meeting you in Amsterdam and learning alot more about you and your company it's no surprise to me at all. Your 110% focus on running a top notch company and providing the best solution possible is why you guys are at the top of the game.

And on a personal note I'm humbled to see we're 9th ... but watch out we're growing strong ;)
It was great meeting you in Amsterdam, and I'm sure that the 9th place is not for long

I've sent you an email about 3 days ago but haven't heard back from you yet, I hope you had a good flight home, and will be waiting for your reply
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sigh.. my bad. i see the domain was registered in 01. i dont remember when you launched. but i have been doing this since 97, so its not like i am just making up numbers or guessing at how the business works.
I'm sure that you know how this business works, but belive me, if you will promote ImLive or checkout our traffic with your hosts, you will find out that there is plenty more then just traffic in our system
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