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Old 09-22-2005, 03:39 PM  
Pleasurepays
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Originally Posted by traffic addict
I don't know what Ifriends revenues are, but I also know that you have no idea what is ImLive revenue as well.

Time has nothing to do with revenue, I can show you programs that have uploaded 2 months ago that are doing more then programs that are online for over 7 years!

As I have said in the beginning ImLive is the biggest webcam on the net according to Alexa, not according to revenues.

And keep in mind that we are getting bigger every day and Ifriends are losing their hosts, users and webmasters to the many better programs that are out there

you cant show me a cam site that has been online for 2 months that is big. this is what we are talking about. it does not work like that. you can't send 1,000,000 hits a day to 10 girls and have 3000 sales a day. In case people dont understand the business and how sales work, its a business that depends on members being able to actually buy time to spend with a girl. there is a finite number of girls and a finite amount of model time online and thus a finite amount of time users will spend with models. its not a static paysite that can handle 5000 or even unlimited joins a day with consistent recurring sales.

i can assume that the high average for any girls on your site being in private sessions is about 20% of their total online time (a very generous number). its about X number of new users per day, number of rooms online and time to build repeat sales/customers. it does not take a genuis to do the math and come up with some close estimates of what your revenue are but the wild card is estimating how many of your girls have 6-12 or more profiles each.

in the cam business time has EVERYTHING to do with revenue. EVERYTHING. if you have not figured that simple truth out.... you have a long way to go and its a clear indication that you do not have much of a history looking at the numbers. its all about repeat sales and the time it takes to build a massive base of repeat users.... how fast that happens depends on the balance of total users in and the total girls online that can talk to them.

You have a site thats barely been online for a year and a 1/2 and i dont have to know your revenue because i know this business very well... and just knowing the impact of time on repeat sales tells me you are not even in the neighborhood of Lars or Ifriends and so on in terms of actual revenue.

as far as i know, Ifriends is well into the 9 digits in annual revenue and has been for quite a few years.


I wish you luck. I know you guys have seen some pretty good growth and are doing well. Ifriends has always ignored the models and their needs and thats why they are fucked when competition exploded. you can't pay a chick in Romania or St Petersburg with a check that takes 60 or more days to clear... and thats just the tip of the iceburg. 1,000,000 webmaster marketing tools mean nothing if most models hate working for you.
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