N.O. Mayor Nagin should be tried for accessory to murder - GoFuckYourself.com

cambaby · 09-04-2005, 05:26 PM

WHY DIDN'T YOU DEPLOY THE BUSES DURING THE MANDATORY EVACUATION, MAYOR?...

Louisiana disaster plan, pg 13, para 5 , dated 01/00

'The primary means of hurricane evacuation will be personal vehicles. School and municipal buses, government-owned vehicles and vehicles provided by volunteer agencies may be used to provide transportation for individuals who lack transportation and require assistance in evacuating'...

Pleasurepays · 09-04-2005, 05:27 PM

did you find the murder weapon? motive?

cambaby · 09-04-2005, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

did you find the murder weapon? motive?

Fine he should be tried at least on manslaughter.

Pleasurepays · 09-04-2005, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by cambaby

Fine he should be tried at least on manslaughter.

you should be tried for having an impossibly low I.Q. and for being a waste of pixels.

Scootermuze · 09-04-2005, 05:37 PM

Dunno about a murder charge, but the pic does warrant the question as to why those buses weren't used to help get people out. A whole lotta folks coulda been moved with em..

xxxdesign-net · 09-04-2005, 05:38 PM

Hey idiot... FEMA and co. are the ones that should prepare evacuation and rescue plans for numerous type of situations.. and not leave that on the shoulder of one guy that can easily screw up...

spunkmaster · 09-04-2005, 05:39 PM

Here's the full plan:

http://www.ohsep.louisiana.gov/plans...pplement1a.pdf
http://www.ohsep.louisiana.gov/plans...pplement1b.pdf

ThunderBalls · 09-04-2005, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by cambaby

N.O. Mayor Nagin should be tried for accessory to murder

Says the brainless twit that supports Bush killing over 150,000 Iraqi's.

xclusive · 09-04-2005, 05:58 PM

Bush decided to fly to sandiego on tuesday rather than fly there and help people so maybe he should be brought up on charges as well?

cambaby · 09-04-2005, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ThunderBalls

Says the brainless twit that supports Bush killing over 150,000 Iraqi's.

1. Saddam killed way more than Bush has.
2. Define: collateral damage - (euphemism) inadvertent casualties and destruction inflicted on civilians in the course of military operations
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
3. Define: manslaughter - The unlawful killing of another without malice; may be either voluntary upon a sudden impulse, or involuntary in the commission of some unlawful act.
ilawyer.com/library/glossary.jsp
4. Iraqis != Americans

strats · 09-04-2005, 06:06 PM

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cambaby · 09-04-2005, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by xclusive

Bush decided to fly to sandiego on tuesday rather than fly there and help people so maybe he should be brought up on charges as well?

ThunderBalls · 09-04-2005, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by cambaby

1. Saddam killed way more than Bush has.
2. Define: collateral damage - (euphemism) inadvertent casualties and destruction inflicted on civilians in the course of military operations
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
3. Define: manslaughter - The unlawful killing of another without malice; may be either voluntary upon a sudden impulse, or involuntary in the commission of some unlawful act.
ilawyer.com/library/glossary.jsp
4. Iraqis != Americans

Define: WMD
Define: Yellow cake uranium
Define: "There is no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised." George W. Bush - March 17, 2003

Conclusion: You're a fucking idiot.

Damian_Maxcash · 09-04-2005, 06:18 PM

That comment is ALMOST the most ridiculous thing I have heard in this whole mess.

I say almost, because FEMA saying "Well, no-one asked us too......." takes the prize.

drama · 09-04-2005, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by cambaby

1. Saddam killed way more than Bush has.
2. Define: collateral damage - (euphemism) inadvertent casualties and destruction inflicted on civilians in the course of military operations
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
3. Define: manslaughter - The unlawful killing of another without malice; may be either voluntary upon a sudden impulse, or involuntary in the commission of some unlawful act.
ilawyer.com/library/glossary.jsp
4. Iraqis != Americans

You have proved yourself to be an idiot as neither murder chargers nor manslaughter could be applied to the mayor.

Scootermuze · 09-04-2005, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net

Hey idiot... FEMA and co. are the ones that should prepare evacuation and rescue plans for numerous type of situations.. and not leave that on the shoulder of one guy that can easily screw up...

'Should' being the key word..
True.. there are more people involved than one person, but it just takes one person to pick up a phone and rally some drivers to do what needed to be done..

When you have an emergency situation, and 'proper' channels would take too long, then someone needs to take charge and deal with the matter at hand..

Also true.. I wasn't there.. we weren't there.. so we don't know all that went on with the evacuation process. But from the outside loookin' in, it seems that the mayor could have bumped heads with the police chief and got the buses rolling.

cambaby · 09-04-2005, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by damian2001

That comment is ALMOST the most ridiculous thing I have heard in this whole mess.

I say almost, because FEMA saying "Well, no-one asked us too......." takes the prize.

The Mayor did not do his job its painfully obvious but you and your treefucking friends wont admit it because he is black. Tards.

WarChild · 09-04-2005, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ThunderBalls

Says the brainless twit that supports Bush killing over 150,000 Iraqi's.

Please show me the reports claiming 150,000 dead Iraqis. I'd like to read them.

jimmyf · 09-04-2005, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net

Hey idiot... FEMA and co. are the ones that should prepare evacuation and rescue plans for numerous type of situations.. and not leave that on the shoulder of one guy that can easily screw up...

NO it's the local and state first... after all they right there on the spot.... that mayor and governor fucked up and are trying to cover ass now...

Drake · 09-04-2005, 06:28 PM

What did the mayor do except complain and telephone people who could/should have taken more action?

cambaby · 09-04-2005, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by drama

You have proved yourself to be an idiot as neither murder chargers nor manslaughter could be applied to the mayor.

Yet you would apply those charges to George Bush.
Even the CITIZENS OF NEW ORLEANS could be seen screaming about Nagins incompetence on TV.
There was a man in front of the convention centre screaming(and I quote): NAGIN WE ARE COMING FOR YOU

jimmyf · 09-04-2005, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Scootermuze

But from the outside loookin' in, it seems that the mayor could have bumped heads with the police chief and got the buses rolling.

as a matter of fact that was suppose to be the plan..

They fucked fucked up plain and simple...

Wilbo · 09-04-2005, 06:31 PM

I saw the mayor being interviewed this morning. All he did was try to deflect blame when the reporter asked him why he didn't do certain things. "I made phone calls" was all he could say. It was obvious he was running scared and looking for a scapegoat.
No one man could possibly handle the mess, I acknowledge that, but he did nothing to project leadership and calm during the crisis. He acted like a spoiled little girl who wasn't getting her way.

jimmyf · 09-04-2005, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by cambaby

The Mayor did not do his job its painfully obvious but you and your treefucking friends wont admit it because he is black. Tards.

you are correct.. they fucked up big time

don't forget the good governor...

messiah1 · 09-04-2005, 06:33 PM

And who in the city could drive those buses when it's devastated?

1+2=4 eh?

cambaby · 09-04-2005, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by messiah1

And who in the city could drive those buses when it's devastated?

1+2=4 eh?

Dude HE KNEW THE STORM WAS COMING you fucking simpleton. He KNOWS his city is heavily populated with poor people. He knew damn fucking well that many of those people would not be able to leave of thier own free will. This is a person who thinks like the rest of these socialist liberals think. That the government is there to cradle you like a baby. No it was HIS job(and the Governor) to account for HIS citys poor population and he could have had thousands of them bused on CITY and SCHOOL buses BEFORE the storm hit.

reynold · 09-04-2005, 06:38 PM

the mayor should be investigated but i think accessory to the crime/murder is not the appropriate case to be filed.

jimmyf · 09-04-2005, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by messiah1

And who in the city could drive those buses when it's devastated?

1+2=4 eh?

well answer this how did the looters drive around.

the mayor and the governor should have had a plan..

.... PERIOD ....

Drake · 09-04-2005, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmyf

well answer this how did the looters drive around.

the mayor and the governor should have had a plan..

.... PERIOD ....

I totally agree

aico · 09-04-2005, 06:41 PM

You are forgetting that the people who stayed, did so by choice. Evacuation began 1 week prior to the hurricane hitting. If they couldn't leave, they should have made that clear to their local officials and I am sure they would have helped them out, but most people there, chose to stay, for one reason of the other.

Those that stayed, did not count on the levy breaking and instantly flooding out the whole place. You must think that the water just trickled in, it didn't, it filled up as fast as it could rush through the broken levy.

Obviously from that picture, after the levy broke and the place flooded, those buses were inoperable, and worthless.

I am sure if they knew the levy was going to break and you'd end up on your roof, no one would have stayed.

Don't blame the Mayor for the people who took a chance and ended up being wrong. They were warned as soon as the storm appeared to be heading toward them, 7 days prior.

It's the same exact chance our Gov't took when the denied funding to upgrade the levies over the past 10 years.

aico · 09-04-2005, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmyf

well answer this how did the looters drive around.

the mayor and the governor should have had a plan..

.... PERIOD ....

Um, looks to me that no one drove those buses... cuz they were't driveable, maybe the Looters took vehicles that were driveable. It's like taking a picture of 100 upside down boats and saying "How come they didnt' use these"... it's pretty fucking obvious why they didn't use them, they weren't operable.

jimmyf · 09-04-2005, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by aico

You are forgetting that the people who stayed, did so by choice. Evacuation began 1 week prior to the hurricane hitting. If they couldn't leave, they should have made that clear to their local officials and I am sure they would have helped them out, but most people there, chose to stay, for one reason of the other.

Those that stayed, did not count on the levy breaking and instantly flooding out the whole place. You must think that the water just trickled in, it didn't, it filled up as fast as it could rush through the broken levy.

Obviously from that picture, after the levy broke and the place flooded, those buses were inoperable, and worthless.

I am sure if they knew the levy was going to break and you'd end up on your roof, no one would have stayed.

Don't blame the Mayor for the people who took a chance and ended up being wrong. They were warned as soon as the storm appeared to be heading toward them, 7 days prior.

It's the same exact chance our Gov't took when the denied funding to upgrade the levies over the past 10 years.

there evacuation plan called for them 2 use school bus's, that was part of the plan..

if all the bus's are parked in that lot, don't think they even tried...

drama · 09-04-2005, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by cambaby

Yet you would apply those charges to George Bush.
Even the CITIZENS OF NEW ORLEANS could be seen screaming about Nagins incompetence on TV.
There was a man in front of the convention centre screaming(and I quote): NAGIN WE ARE COMING FOR YOU

Point out where i applied those charges to george bush please. I didnt. Try again

Damian_Maxcash · 09-04-2005, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by cambaby

Dude HE KNEW THE STORM WAS COMING you fucking simpleton. He KNOWS his city is heavily populated with poor people. He knew damn fucking well that many of those people would not be able to leave of thier own free will. This is a person who thinks like the rest of these socialist liberals think. That the government is there to cradle you like a baby. No it was HIS job(and the Governor) to account for HIS citys poor population and he could have had thousands of them bused on CITY and SCHOOL buses BEFORE the storm hit.

So did FEMA. They knew it was coming as well. Yet they sat and did nothing because (they say) no-one had asked them to.

Anyone that has had a job in the real world knows that sometimes you have to use a little initiative and just get on with it sometimes. You dont get far sitting on your ass waiting to be asked.

cambaby · 09-04-2005, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by aico

Um, looks to me that no one drove those buses... cuz they were't driveable, maybe the Looters took vehicles that were driveable. It's like taking a picture of 100 upside down boats and saying "How come they didnt' use these"... it's pretty fucking obvious why they didn't use them, they weren't operable.

Dumb ass those buses were there BEFORE the hurricane too - he could have had them driven out BEFORE the hurricane. They didnt just magically fucking appear out of thin air after the hurricane. God some of you are fucking stupid as hell, me being the most idiotic of all for arguing with half you fuckign clueless fucks.

aico · 09-04-2005, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmyf

there evacuation plan called for them 2 use school bus's, that was part of the plan..

if all the bus's are parked in that lot, don't think they even tried...

They evacuated the people who wanted to be evacuated... hello... People CHOSE to stay...

Drake · 09-04-2005, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by aico

You are forgetting that the people who stayed, did so by choice. Evacuation began 1 week prior to the hurricane hitting. If they couldn't leave, they should have made that clear to their local officials and I am sure they would have helped them out, but most people there, chose to stay, for one reason of the other.

Those that stayed, did not count on the levy breaking and instantly flooding out the whole place. You must think that the water just trickled in, it didn't, it filled up as fast as it could rush through the broken levy.

Obviously from that picture, after the levy broke and the place flooded, those buses were inoperable, and worthless.

I am sure if they knew the levy was going to break and you'd end up on your roof, no one would have stayed.

Basically all that we're saying is that an informed Mayor and Governor should have been prepared for a worse case scenario. There are always people by choice or not that will stay in their homes thinking things are going to be ok, and wind up in a life death situation. We still do our best to rescue those people.

Damian_Maxcash · 09-04-2005, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by aico

They evacuated the people who wanted to be evacuated... hello... People CHOSE to stay...

aico · 09-04-2005, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by cambaby

Dumb ass those buses were there BEFORE the hurricane too - he could have had them driven out BEFORE the hurricane. They didnt just magically fucking appear out of thin air after the hurricane. God some of you are fucking stupid as hell, me being the most idiotic of all for arguing with half you fuckign clueless fucks.

wow, name calling, that's a sure sign of intelligence... Again... They evacuated those who wanted to be evacuated... people chose to stay.

cambaby · 09-04-2005, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by damian2001

So did FEMA. They knew it was coming as well. Yet they sat and did nothing because (they say) no-one had asked them to.

Anyone that has had a job in the real world knows that sometimes you have to use a little initiative and just get on with it sometimes. You dont get far sitting on your ass waiting to be asked.

FEMA prepositioned assets to deal with the aftermath, your ghetto slum mayor didnt even fucking know what to do other than to hold a press conference and tell everyone to get out.

jimmyf · 09-04-2005, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by aico

Um, looks to me that no one drove those buses... cuz they were't driveable, maybe the Looters took vehicles that were driveable. It's like taking a picture of 100 upside down boats and saying "How come they didnt' use these"... it's pretty fucking obvious why they didn't use them, they weren't operable.

when it started those bus's should have been on the road, not in that lot...

that mayor fucked up big time... I bet they didn't have one school bus driver on call ( stand by )...

before this is over you are going to find other shit the corrupt mayor and governor didn't do...

and they are corrupt... LA Gov. has been for years and years..

I will give you odd's The Fed's have there thinking caps on right now.... How do we keep the state from getting there hands on the rebuilding monies..

cambaby · 09-04-2005, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by aico

wow, name calling, that's a sure sign of intelligence... Again... They evacuated those who wanted to be evacuated... people chose to stay.

Sorry Im just preparing for civil war.

Damian_Maxcash · 09-04-2005, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by cambaby

FEMA prepositioned assets to deal with the aftermath, your ghetto slum mayor didnt even fucking know what to do other than to hold a press conference and tell everyone to get out.

"prepositioned assets"....... Where, Alaska?

jimmyf · 09-04-2005, 06:56 PM

some of you people are clueless

bye

xxxdesign-net · 09-04-2005, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmyf

NO it's the local and state first... after all they right there on the spot.... that mayor and governor fucked up and are trying to cover ass now...

I don't care if it is the procedure.. its simply doesnt make any fucking sense.. FEMA and co. are the experts, they are the one which job is to plan everything in case of major disasters.. thats their fucking job.. Now you are telling me that the faith of thousands and thousands of people are in the hands of ONE fucking individual that isnt certified competent in those type of situation? Or maybe we should blame that crazy woman governor becuase she didnt ask help the right way.. Yeah.. that makes sense.. let put people's faith on the shoulder of unproven, unqualified individuals....

WarChild · 09-04-2005, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by cambaby

Sorry Im just preparing for civil war.

Civil War yet, that's fucking awesome. You just made my night.

cambaby · 09-04-2005, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

Civil War yet, that's fucking awesome. You just made my night.

I wish I was kidding but whenever I see hippie fucks on the street I have to get into it with em, man it just burns me up and Im not even a redneck

SuckOnThis · 09-04-2005, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmyf

you are correct.. they fucked up big time

don't forget the good governor...

Wrong. They did what they should have. They protected thousands from the storm that wanted to be protected. It was up to the feds to pick up the slack after the storm. Anyone with a brain knows there is not a city in America that has the resources to tend to 30,000 people on a moments notice. I seriously doubt the city would even have the amount of school buses needed to evacuate that many people in less than 18 hours. You people are doing nothing more than trying to divert attention away from Bush fucking up in a major way. It really is quite sickening.

WarChild · 09-04-2005, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

I seriously doubt the city would even have the amount of school buses needed to evacuate that many people in less than 18 hours.

How about a full week's notice, like New Orleans received?

You obviously hate Bush, that much is clear. You can't pin this on him though.

cambaby · 09-04-2005, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

Wrong. They did what they should have. They protected thousands from the storm that wanted to be protected. It was up to the feds to pick up the slack after the storm. Anyone with a brain knows there is not a city in America that has the resources to tend to 30,000 people on a moments notice. I seriously doubt the city would even have the amount of school buses needed to evacuate that many people in less than 18 hours. You people are doing nothing more than trying to divert attention away from Bush fucking up in a major way. It really is quite sickening.

Haha and how did Bush have ANYTHING to do with this at all until after the fact? Are you saying the state of Lousiana did not have the resources to move poor people and infirmed people out of New Orleans? What the fuck do you think a Governor is?

09-04-2005, 05:26 PM	#1
cambaby So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: CR Posts: 3,141	N.O. Mayor Nagin should be tried for accessory to murder WHY DIDN'T YOU DEPLOY THE BUSES DURING THE MANDATORY EVACUATION, MAYOR?... Louisiana disaster plan, pg 13, para 5 , dated 01/00 'The primary means of hurricane evacuation will be personal vehicles. School and municipal buses, government-owned vehicles and vehicles provided by volunteer agencies may be used to provide transportation for individuals who lack transportation and require assistance in evacuating'...

09-04-2005, 05:38 PM	#6
xxxdesign-net My hips don't lie Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 10,129	Hey idiot... FEMA and co. are the ones that should prepare evacuation and rescue plans for numerous type of situations.. and not leave that on the shoulder of one guy that can easily screw up... Last edited by xxxdesign-net; 09-04-2005 at 05:39 PM..

09-04-2005, 05:39 PM	#7
spunkmaster Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 2,052	Here's the full plan: http://www.ohsep.louisiana.gov/plans...pplement1a.pdf http://www.ohsep.louisiana.gov/plans...pplement1b.pdf __________________

09-04-2005, 05:58 PM	#9
xclusive Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 35,218	Bush decided to fly to sandiego on tuesday rather than fly there and help people so maybe he should be brought up on charges as well? __________________ I support MediumPimpin.com / Shemp's Outlawtgp.com /

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Pleasurepays BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I live in a pile of boogers Posts: 11,913	did you find the murder weapon? motive?

09-04-2005, 05:37 PM	#5
Scootermuze Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 4,513	Dunno about a murder charge, but the pic does warrant the question as to why those buses weren't used to help get people out. A whole lotta folks coulda been moved with em..

09-04-2005, 06:18 PM	#14
Damian_Maxcash So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: MaxCash.com Posts: 12,745	That comment is ALMOST the most ridiculous thing I have heard in this whole mess. I say almost, because FEMA saying "Well, no-one asked us too......." takes the prize.

09-04-2005, 06:28 PM	#20
Drake Hello world! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 12,508	What did the mayor do except complain and telephone people who could/should have taken more action?

09-04-2005, 06:31 PM	#23
Wilbo Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Baltimore Posts: 2,082	I saw the mayor being interviewed this morning. All he did was try to deflect blame when the reporter asked him why he didn't do certain things. "I made phone calls" was all he could say. It was obvious he was running scared and looking for a scapegoat. No one man could possibly handle the mess, I acknowledge that, but he did nothing to project leadership and calm during the crisis. He acted like a spoiled little girl who wasn't getting her way.

09-04-2005, 06:33 PM	#25
messiah1 Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 549	And who in the city could drive those buses when it's devastated? 1+2=4 eh?

09-04-2005, 06:38 PM	#27
reynold Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Global Traveler Posts: 51,271	the mayor should be investigated but i think accessory to the crime/murder is not the appropriate case to be filed.

09-04-2005, 06:41 PM	#30
aico Moo Moo Cow Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Washington State Posts: 14,748	You are forgetting that the people who stayed, did so by choice. Evacuation began 1 week prior to the hurricane hitting. If they couldn't leave, they should have made that clear to their local officials and I am sure they would have helped them out, but most people there, chose to stay, for one reason of the other. Those that stayed, did not count on the levy breaking and instantly flooding out the whole place. You must think that the water just trickled in, it didn't, it filled up as fast as it could rush through the broken levy. Obviously from that picture, after the levy broke and the place flooded, those buses were inoperable, and worthless. I am sure if they knew the levy was going to break and you'd end up on your roof, no one would have stayed. Don't blame the Mayor for the people who took a chance and ended up being wrong. They were warned as soon as the storm appeared to be heading toward them, 7 days prior. It's the same exact chance our Gov't took when the denied funding to upgrade the levies over the past 10 years.

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jimmyf OU812 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: California Posts: 12,651	some of you people are clueless bye __________________ Epic CashEpic Cash works for me Solar Cash Paysite Plugin Gallery of the day freesites,POTD,Gallery generator with free hosting