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cambaby 09-04-2005 05:26 PM

N.O. Mayor Nagin should be tried for accessory to murder
 
http://us.news3.yimg.com/us.i2.yimg....na_flpc211.jpg
WHY DIDN'T YOU DEPLOY THE BUSES DURING THE MANDATORY EVACUATION, MAYOR?...

Louisiana disaster plan, pg 13, para 5 , dated 01/00

'The primary means of hurricane evacuation will be personal vehicles. School and municipal buses, government-owned vehicles and vehicles provided by volunteer agencies may be used to provide transportation for individuals who lack transportation and require assistance in evacuating'...

Pleasurepays 09-04-2005 05:27 PM

did you find the murder weapon? motive?

:1orglaugh

cambaby 09-04-2005 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays
did you find the murder weapon? motive?

:1orglaugh

Fine he should be tried at least on manslaughter.

Pleasurepays 09-04-2005 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by cambaby
Fine he should be tried at least on manslaughter.

you should be tried for having an impossibly low I.Q. and for being a waste of pixels.

Scootermuze 09-04-2005 05:37 PM

Dunno about a murder charge, but the pic does warrant the question as to why those buses weren't used to help get people out. A whole lotta folks coulda been moved with em..

xxxdesign-net 09-04-2005 05:38 PM

Hey idiot... FEMA and co. are the ones that should prepare evacuation and rescue plans for numerous type of situations.. and not leave that on the shoulder of one guy that can easily screw up...

spunkmaster 09-04-2005 05:39 PM

Here's the full plan:


http://www.ohsep.louisiana.gov/plans...pplement1a.pdf
http://www.ohsep.louisiana.gov/plans...pplement1b.pdf

ThunderBalls 09-04-2005 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cambaby
N.O. Mayor Nagin should be tried for accessory to murder


Says the brainless twit that supports Bush killing over 150,000 Iraqi's.

xclusive 09-04-2005 05:58 PM

Bush decided to fly to sandiego on tuesday rather than fly there and help people so maybe he should be brought up on charges as well?

cambaby 09-04-2005 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ThunderBalls
Says the brainless twit that supports Bush killing over 150,000 Iraqi's.

1. Saddam killed way more than Bush has.
2. Define: collateral damage - (euphemism) inadvertent casualties and destruction inflicted on civilians in the course of military operations
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
3. Define: manslaughter - The unlawful killing of another without malice; may be either voluntary upon a sudden impulse, or involuntary in the commission of some unlawful act.
ilawyer.com/library/glossary.jsp
4. Iraqis != Americans

strats 09-04-2005 06:06 PM

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cambaby 09-04-2005 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by xclusive
Bush decided to fly to sandiego on tuesday rather than fly there and help people so maybe he should be brought up on charges as well?

http://www.manbottle.com/pictures/cluepon.jpg

ThunderBalls 09-04-2005 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by cambaby
1. Saddam killed way more than Bush has.
2. Define: collateral damage - (euphemism) inadvertent casualties and destruction inflicted on civilians in the course of military operations
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
3. Define: manslaughter - The unlawful killing of another without malice; may be either voluntary upon a sudden impulse, or involuntary in the commission of some unlawful act.
ilawyer.com/library/glossary.jsp
4. Iraqis != Americans

Define: WMD
Define: Yellow cake uranium
Define: "There is no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised." George W. Bush - March 17, 2003

Conclusion: You're a fucking idiot.

Damian_Maxcash 09-04-2005 06:18 PM

That comment is ALMOST the most ridiculous thing I have heard in this whole mess.

I say almost, because FEMA saying "Well, no-one asked us too......." takes the prize.

drama 09-04-2005 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cambaby
1. Saddam killed way more than Bush has.
2. Define: collateral damage - (euphemism) inadvertent casualties and destruction inflicted on civilians in the course of military operations
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
3. Define: manslaughter - The unlawful killing of another without malice; may be either voluntary upon a sudden impulse, or involuntary in the commission of some unlawful act.
ilawyer.com/library/glossary.jsp
4. Iraqis != Americans

You have proved yourself to be an idiot as neither murder chargers nor manslaughter could be applied to the mayor.

Scootermuze 09-04-2005 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net
Hey idiot... FEMA and co. are the ones that should prepare evacuation and rescue plans for numerous type of situations.. and not leave that on the shoulder of one guy that can easily screw up...

'Should' being the key word..
True.. there are more people involved than one person, but it just takes one person to pick up a phone and rally some drivers to do what needed to be done..

When you have an emergency situation, and 'proper' channels would take too long, then someone needs to take charge and deal with the matter at hand..

Also true.. I wasn't there.. we weren't there.. so we don't know all that went on with the evacuation process. But from the outside loookin' in, it seems that the mayor could have bumped heads with the police chief and got the buses rolling.

cambaby 09-04-2005 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by damian2001
That comment is ALMOST the most ridiculous thing I have heard in this whole mess.

I say almost, because FEMA saying "Well, no-one asked us too......." takes the prize.

The Mayor did not do his job its painfully obvious but you and your treefucking friends wont admit it because he is black. Tards.

WarChild 09-04-2005 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ThunderBalls
Says the brainless twit that supports Bush killing over 150,000 Iraqi's.

Please show me the reports claiming 150,000 dead Iraqis. I'd like to read them.

jimmyf 09-04-2005 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net
Hey idiot... FEMA and co. are the ones that should prepare evacuation and rescue plans for numerous type of situations.. and not leave that on the shoulder of one guy that can easily screw up...

NO it's the local and state first... after all they right there on the spot.... that mayor and governor fucked up and are trying to cover ass now...

Drake 09-04-2005 06:28 PM

What did the mayor do except complain and telephone people who could/should have taken more action?

cambaby 09-04-2005 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by drama
You have proved yourself to be an idiot as neither murder chargers nor manslaughter could be applied to the mayor.

Yet you would apply those charges to George Bush.
Even the CITIZENS OF NEW ORLEANS could be seen screaming about Nagins incompetence on TV.
There was a man in front of the convention centre screaming(and I quote): NAGIN WE ARE COMING FOR YOU

jimmyf 09-04-2005 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Scootermuze
But from the outside loookin' in, it seems that the mayor could have bumped heads with the police chief and got the buses rolling.

as a matter of fact that was suppose to be the plan..

They fucked fucked up plain and simple...

Wilbo 09-04-2005 06:31 PM

I saw the mayor being interviewed this morning. All he did was try to deflect blame when the reporter asked him why he didn't do certain things. "I made phone calls" was all he could say. It was obvious he was running scared and looking for a scapegoat.
No one man could possibly handle the mess, I acknowledge that, but he did nothing to project leadership and calm during the crisis. He acted like a spoiled little girl who wasn't getting her way.

jimmyf 09-04-2005 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by cambaby
The Mayor did not do his job its painfully obvious but you and your treefucking friends wont admit it because he is black. Tards.

you are correct.. they fucked up big time

don't forget the good governor...

messiah1 09-04-2005 06:33 PM

And who in the city could drive those buses when it's devastated? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh
1+2=4 eh?

cambaby 09-04-2005 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by messiah1
And who in the city could drive those buses when it's devastated? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh
1+2=4 eh?

Dude HE KNEW THE STORM WAS COMING you fucking simpleton. He KNOWS his city is heavily populated with poor people. He knew damn fucking well that many of those people would not be able to leave of thier own free will. This is a person who thinks like the rest of these socialist liberals think. That the government is there to cradle you like a baby. No it was HIS job(and the Governor) to account for HIS citys poor population and he could have had thousands of them bused on CITY and SCHOOL buses BEFORE the storm hit.

reynold 09-04-2005 06:38 PM

the mayor should be investigated but i think accessory to the crime/murder is not the appropriate case to be filed.

jimmyf 09-04-2005 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by messiah1
And who in the city could drive those buses when it's devastated? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh
1+2=4 eh?

well answer this how did the looters drive around.

the mayor and the governor should have had a plan..

.... PERIOD ....

Drake 09-04-2005 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmyf
well answer this how did the looters drive around.

the mayor and the governor should have had a plan..

.... PERIOD ....

I totally agree

aico 09-04-2005 06:41 PM

You are forgetting that the people who stayed, did so by choice. Evacuation began 1 week prior to the hurricane hitting. If they couldn't leave, they should have made that clear to their local officials and I am sure they would have helped them out, but most people there, chose to stay, for one reason of the other.

Those that stayed, did not count on the levy breaking and instantly flooding out the whole place. You must think that the water just trickled in, it didn't, it filled up as fast as it could rush through the broken levy.

Obviously from that picture, after the levy broke and the place flooded, those buses were inoperable, and worthless.

I am sure if they knew the levy was going to break and you'd end up on your roof, no one would have stayed.

Don't blame the Mayor for the people who took a chance and ended up being wrong. They were warned as soon as the storm appeared to be heading toward them, 7 days prior.

It's the same exact chance our Gov't took when the denied funding to upgrade the levies over the past 10 years.

aico 09-04-2005 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmyf
well answer this how did the looters drive around.

the mayor and the governor should have had a plan..

.... PERIOD ....

Um, looks to me that no one drove those buses... cuz they were't driveable, maybe the Looters took vehicles that were driveable. It's like taking a picture of 100 upside down boats and saying "How come they didnt' use these"... it's pretty fucking obvious why they didn't use them, they weren't operable.

jimmyf 09-04-2005 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by aico
You are forgetting that the people who stayed, did so by choice. Evacuation began 1 week prior to the hurricane hitting. If they couldn't leave, they should have made that clear to their local officials and I am sure they would have helped them out, but most people there, chose to stay, for one reason of the other.

Those that stayed, did not count on the levy breaking and instantly flooding out the whole place. You must think that the water just trickled in, it didn't, it filled up as fast as it could rush through the broken levy.

Obviously from that picture, after the levy broke and the place flooded, those buses were inoperable, and worthless.

I am sure if they knew the levy was going to break and you'd end up on your roof, no one would have stayed.

Don't blame the Mayor for the people who took a chance and ended up being wrong. They were warned as soon as the storm appeared to be heading toward them, 7 days prior.

It's the same exact chance our Gov't took when the denied funding to upgrade the levies over the past 10 years.

there evacuation plan called for them 2 use school bus's, that was part of the plan..

if all the bus's are parked in that lot, don't think they even tried...

drama 09-04-2005 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cambaby
Yet you would apply those charges to George Bush.
Even the CITIZENS OF NEW ORLEANS could be seen screaming about Nagins incompetence on TV.
There was a man in front of the convention centre screaming(and I quote): NAGIN WE ARE COMING FOR YOU

Point out where i applied those charges to george bush please. I didnt. Try again

Damian_Maxcash 09-04-2005 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cambaby
Dude HE KNEW THE STORM WAS COMING you fucking simpleton. He KNOWS his city is heavily populated with poor people. He knew damn fucking well that many of those people would not be able to leave of thier own free will. This is a person who thinks like the rest of these socialist liberals think. That the government is there to cradle you like a baby. No it was HIS job(and the Governor) to account for HIS citys poor population and he could have had thousands of them bused on CITY and SCHOOL buses BEFORE the storm hit.

So did FEMA. They knew it was coming as well. Yet they sat and did nothing because (they say) no-one had asked them to.

Anyone that has had a job in the real world knows that sometimes you have to use a little initiative and just get on with it sometimes. You dont get far sitting on your ass waiting to be asked.

cambaby 09-04-2005 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by aico
Um, looks to me that no one drove those buses... cuz they were't driveable, maybe the Looters took vehicles that were driveable. It's like taking a picture of 100 upside down boats and saying "How come they didnt' use these"... it's pretty fucking obvious why they didn't use them, they weren't operable.

Dumb ass those buses were there BEFORE the hurricane too - he could have had them driven out BEFORE the hurricane. They didnt just magically fucking appear out of thin air after the hurricane. God some of you are fucking stupid as hell, me being the most idiotic of all for arguing with half you fuckign clueless fucks.

aico 09-04-2005 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmyf
there evacuation plan called for them 2 use school bus's, that was part of the plan..

if all the bus's are parked in that lot, don't think they even tried...

They evacuated the people who wanted to be evacuated... hello... People CHOSE to stay...

Drake 09-04-2005 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by aico
You are forgetting that the people who stayed, did so by choice. Evacuation began 1 week prior to the hurricane hitting. If they couldn't leave, they should have made that clear to their local officials and I am sure they would have helped them out, but most people there, chose to stay, for one reason of the other.

Those that stayed, did not count on the levy breaking and instantly flooding out the whole place. You must think that the water just trickled in, it didn't, it filled up as fast as it could rush through the broken levy.

Obviously from that picture, after the levy broke and the place flooded, those buses were inoperable, and worthless.

I am sure if they knew the levy was going to break and you'd end up on your roof, no one would have stayed.


Basically all that we're saying is that an informed Mayor and Governor should have been prepared for a worse case scenario. There are always people by choice or not that will stay in their homes thinking things are going to be ok, and wind up in a life death situation. We still do our best to rescue those people.

Damian_Maxcash 09-04-2005 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by aico
They evacuated the people who wanted to be evacuated... hello... People CHOSE to stay...

:thumbsup :thumbsup

aico 09-04-2005 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by cambaby
Dumb ass those buses were there BEFORE the hurricane too - he could have had them driven out BEFORE the hurricane. They didnt just magically fucking appear out of thin air after the hurricane. God some of you are fucking stupid as hell, me being the most idiotic of all for arguing with half you fuckign clueless fucks.

wow, name calling, that's a sure sign of intelligence... Again... They evacuated those who wanted to be evacuated... people chose to stay.

cambaby 09-04-2005 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by damian2001
So did FEMA. They knew it was coming as well. Yet they sat and did nothing because (they say) no-one had asked them to.

Anyone that has had a job in the real world knows that sometimes you have to use a little initiative and just get on with it sometimes. You dont get far sitting on your ass waiting to be asked.

FEMA prepositioned assets to deal with the aftermath, your ghetto slum mayor didnt even fucking know what to do other than to hold a press conference and tell everyone to get out.

jimmyf 09-04-2005 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aico
Um, looks to me that no one drove those buses... cuz they were't driveable, maybe the Looters took vehicles that were driveable. It's like taking a picture of 100 upside down boats and saying "How come they didnt' use these"... it's pretty fucking obvious why they didn't use them, they weren't operable.

when it started those bus's should have been on the road, not in that lot...

that mayor fucked up big time... I bet they didn't have one school bus driver on call ( stand by )...

before this is over you are going to find other shit the corrupt mayor and governor didn't do...

and they are corrupt... LA Gov. has been for years and years..

I will give you odd's The Fed's have there thinking caps on right now.... How do we keep the state from getting there hands on the rebuilding monies..

cambaby 09-04-2005 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aico
wow, name calling, that's a sure sign of intelligence... Again... They evacuated those who wanted to be evacuated... people chose to stay.

Sorry Im just preparing for civil war.

Damian_Maxcash 09-04-2005 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by cambaby
FEMA prepositioned assets to deal with the aftermath, your ghetto slum mayor didnt even fucking know what to do other than to hold a press conference and tell everyone to get out.

"prepositioned assets"....... Where, Alaska?

jimmyf 09-04-2005 06:56 PM

some of you people are clueless

bye

xxxdesign-net 09-04-2005 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmyf
NO it's the local and state first... after all they right there on the spot.... that mayor and governor fucked up and are trying to cover ass now...


I don't care if it is the procedure.. its simply doesnt make any fucking sense.. FEMA and co. are the experts, they are the one which job is to plan everything in case of major disasters.. thats their fucking job.. Now you are telling me that the faith of thousands and thousands of people are in the hands of ONE fucking individual that isnt certified competent in those type of situation? Or maybe we should blame that crazy woman governor becuase she didnt ask help the right way.. Yeah.. that makes sense.. let put people's faith on the shoulder of unproven, unqualified individuals.... :thumbsup

WarChild 09-04-2005 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by cambaby
Sorry Im just preparing for civil war.

Civil War yet, that's fucking awesome. You just made my night. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

cambaby 09-04-2005 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild
Civil War yet, that's fucking awesome. You just made my night. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I wish I was kidding but whenever I see hippie fucks on the street I have to get into it with em, man it just burns me up and Im not even a redneck :(

SuckOnThis 09-04-2005 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmyf
you are correct.. they fucked up big time

don't forget the good governor...


Wrong. They did what they should have. They protected thousands from the storm that wanted to be protected. It was up to the feds to pick up the slack after the storm. Anyone with a brain knows there is not a city in America that has the resources to tend to 30,000 people on a moments notice. I seriously doubt the city would even have the amount of school buses needed to evacuate that many people in less than 18 hours. You people are doing nothing more than trying to divert attention away from Bush fucking up in a major way. It really is quite sickening.

WarChild 09-04-2005 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis
I seriously doubt the city would even have the amount of school buses needed to evacuate that many people in less than 18 hours.

How about a full week's notice, like New Orleans received?

You obviously hate Bush, that much is clear. You can't pin this on him though.

cambaby 09-04-2005 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis
Wrong. They did what they should have. They protected thousands from the storm that wanted to be protected. It was up to the feds to pick up the slack after the storm. Anyone with a brain knows there is not a city in America that has the resources to tend to 30,000 people on a moments notice. I seriously doubt the city would even have the amount of school buses needed to evacuate that many people in less than 18 hours. You people are doing nothing more than trying to divert attention away from Bush fucking up in a major way. It really is quite sickening.

Haha and how did Bush have ANYTHING to do with this at all until after the fact? Are you saying the state of Lousiana did not have the resources to move poor people and infirmed people out of New Orleans? What the fuck do you think a Governor is?


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