Difference between Clinton and Bush Sr. - GoFuckYourself.com

sean416 · 09-02-2005, 08:55 AM

Did anybody else notice the huge difference between bush sr and clinton in the interview on CNN the other day? I think you could broaden this to say it's a difference between republicans and democrats.

the difference (paraphrasing):

Interviewer: Why don't they put a price top on gas so that people don't have to pay insane amounts?

Bush sr: I don't know enough about it to give you an answer.

Clinton: Well, there's a lot of factors at play here. A temporary ceiling on gas prices may serve the public well, but when you're dealing with demand and supply you cant impose an artificial price on the market place and expect it to hold. If the price is too cheap it just means we will run out faster.

Interviewer: Why is it taking so long for the people of New Orleans to receive aid?

Bush sr: I dont know enough about it to give you an answer.

Clinton: You have to understand that we thought, when the hurriccane hit, that new orleans was spared. At that point it wasn't a huge impact and it looked as though this would be a normal hurriccane recovery, but then the leavies had breaches which is another disaster in itself, add to the fact a lack of communication, etc this was something that did not progress at a predicatable rate. I can't confirm that all proper decisions were made, but before we start pointing fingers, we need to understand these situations are very difficult.

Whats the difference? Clinton treats people like adults.. he shows you the pros and cons of the decisions he faces and tries to make the best of it. While Bush Sr and Bush Jr play poker face through their decisions, they strong arm all questions, keep all relevant information and then at the end of the day they either look like they know what their doing, or its a complete failure.. but in either case, you dont know where things went wrong cause you have no clue whats going on.

I think this why the intellectual communitty hates bush, because they are shut out of the decision making process while the lower income, rural type of people don't mind and place faith in him because they normally wouldn't include themself in these discussions/decisions even if the information was made available to them.

discuss.

RoCkMaN · 09-02-2005, 09:05 AM

I always loved Bubba. He was a great president. I'll never forget him playing the Saxophone on a late night show... Can't remember if it was The Letterman Show or The Tonight Show.

galleryseek · 09-02-2005, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by RoCkMaN

I always loved Bubba. He was a great president. I'll never forget him playing the Saxophone on a late night show... Can't remember if it was The Letterman Show or The Tonight Show.

he was a terrible husband though, and at that a poor example.

RoCkMaN · 09-02-2005, 09:10 AM

Mr. Pat · 09-02-2005, 09:11 AM

i didn't always like bubba, but i do now. i simply can't understand why anyone can like Dumbya and Daddy

cherrylula · 09-02-2005, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by galleryseek

he was a terrible husband though, and at that a poor example.

Not really, have you looked at marriage and divorce stats lately? Clinton is at least representative of the nation.

sean416 · 09-02-2005, 09:13 AM

don't tell me the only thing u want to discuss after reading what I wrote is Bill Clinton's faithfulness to his wife?

GFY sucks

galleryseek · 09-02-2005, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by cherrylula

Not really, have you looked at marriage and divorce stats lately? Clinton is at least representative of the nation.

marriage / divorce stats aren't directly related to cheating. and also, just because a portion of the population "does it", doesn't mean it's right.

galleryseek · 09-02-2005, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by sean416

don't tell me the only thing u want to discuss after reading what I wrote is Bill Clinton's faithfulness to his wife?

GFY sucks

haha.

Biggy2 · 09-02-2005, 09:18 AM

Clinton was the man. He knows, he understands, I don't think I ever heard a hater of Clinton. You can throw politics out the window, I think and have always thought Bush is a moron, the only thing he's good at is manipulating and getting elected.

I can only credit bush with one good thing in his years: another 9/11 has not happened since. Other than that, I can go on and on, to start with his excessive vacations. He's a shitty president, and Katrina is just one consequence of having him in office. If you look at him and his behavior, he looks like a guy who only cares about himself and those around him, and everything else seems fake... The only people who I can see a logical reason for supporting Bush are the wealthy who want his tax cuts.

galleryseek · 09-02-2005, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Biggy2

He's a shitty president, and Katrina is just one consequence of having him in office.

come off it. do you HONESTLY think that you can blame one person for the shit happening in new orleans? do you honestly think that george bush has the power to make things perfectly OK within a matter of a few days, but simply chooses not to? WHY would he do that? to make himself look like an ass in front of the nation like he is now? of fucking course not.

fact is is that no one was prepared for this, and it doesn't matter who was in office, it always takes a catastrophe of such magnitude to really effect change and preparation. you can't simply throw all of your soldiers down there without taking the necessary time it takes to plan and prepare.

sean416 · 09-02-2005, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by galleryseek

come off it. do you HONESTLY think that you can blame one person for the shit happening in new orleans? do you honestly think that george bush has the power to make things perfectly OK within a matter of a few days, but simply chooses not to? WHY would he do that? to make himself look like an ass in front of the nation like he is now? of fucking course not.

fact is is that no one was prepared for this, and it doesn't matter who was in office, it always takes a catastrophe of such magnitude to really effect change and preparation. you can't simply throw all of your soldiers down there without taking the necessary time it takes to plan and prepare.

1. Because of the war on Iraq and Bush's tax cuts homeland security projects such as making a better levy system in NO had been pretty much cancelled. Had they had the proper system in place before hand, this wouldn't be the disaster it is.

2. No public transportation was provided for the people who had no means to get out of the city.

3. Bush was on vacation for 4.5 days while this was going on.

4. The cabinet is just now returning from their vacation to pass laws for the relief while in Terri Schiavo's case they returned on a sunday night while on vacation to pass something immediately.

5. There was not enough reources on the ground to help counter some of the looting and violence immediately after.

6. There was no plan for the people who stayed after the storm even though they have known a huge storm was going to hit since friday.

I could really keep on going, the bottom line is there ARE plenty of things he could have done rather then being on vacation to insure his people, that he swore to protect, would have been protected.. instead he was fly-fishing and didn't see the need to cut his vacation short.

Sarah_Jayne · 09-02-2005, 09:39 AM

They are bringing him in because he is the only one of the three that could hold a conversation with a black southerner and it not feel scripted.

sean416 · 09-02-2005, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by sean416

1. Because of the war on Iraq and Bush's tax cuts homeland security projects such as making a better levy system in NO had been pretty much cancelled. Had they had the proper system in place before hand, this wouldn't be the disaster it is.

2. No public transportation was provided for the people who had no means to get out of the city.

3. Bush was on vacation for 4.5 days while this was going on.

4. The cabinet is just now returning from their vacation to pass laws for the relief while in Terri Schiavo's case they returned on a sunday night while on vacation to pass something immediately.

5. There was not enough reources on the ground to help counter some of the looting and violence immediately after.

6. There was no plan for the people who stayed after the storm even though they have known a huge storm was going to hit since friday.

I could really keep on going, the bottom line is there ARE plenty of things he could have done rather then being on vacation to insure his people, that he swore to protect, would have been protected.. instead he was fly-fishing and didn't see the need to cut his vacation short.

to add tot his, the point of this thread is why doesnt dubya simply explain to us why he made the decisions he made, restore some faith in the people, and start moving forward. Instead he sets up camera opps and thanks all of his cohorts for their (incompetent) efforts.

09-02-2005, 08:55 AM	#1
sean416 Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Toronto Posts: 3,633	Difference between Clinton and Bush Sr. Did anybody else notice the huge difference between bush sr and clinton in the interview on CNN the other day? I think you could broaden this to say it's a difference between republicans and democrats. the difference (paraphrasing): Interviewer: Why don't they put a price top on gas so that people don't have to pay insane amounts? Bush sr: I don't know enough about it to give you an answer. Clinton: Well, there's a lot of factors at play here. A temporary ceiling on gas prices may serve the public well, but when you're dealing with demand and supply you cant impose an artificial price on the market place and expect it to hold. If the price is too cheap it just means we will run out faster. Interviewer: Why is it taking so long for the people of New Orleans to receive aid? Bush sr: I dont know enough about it to give you an answer. Clinton: You have to understand that we thought, when the hurriccane hit, that new orleans was spared. At that point it wasn't a huge impact and it looked as though this would be a normal hurriccane recovery, but then the leavies had breaches which is another disaster in itself, add to the fact a lack of communication, etc this was something that did not progress at a predicatable rate. I can't confirm that all proper decisions were made, but before we start pointing fingers, we need to understand these situations are very difficult. Whats the difference? Clinton treats people like adults.. he shows you the pros and cons of the decisions he faces and tries to make the best of it. While Bush Sr and Bush Jr play poker face through their decisions, they strong arm all questions, keep all relevant information and then at the end of the day they either look like they know what their doing, or its a complete failure.. but in either case, you dont know where things went wrong cause you have no clue whats going on. I think this why the intellectual communitty hates bush, because they are shut out of the decision making process while the lower income, rural type of people don't mind and place faith in him because they normally wouldn't include themself in these discussions/decisions even if the information was made available to them. discuss. __________________ ServerProvider.com

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09-02-2005, 09:13 AM	#7
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09-02-2005, 09:18 AM	#10
Biggy2 Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,821	Clinton was the man. He knows, he understands, I don't think I ever heard a hater of Clinton. You can throw politics out the window, I think and have always thought Bush is a moron, the only thing he's good at is manipulating and getting elected. I can only credit bush with one good thing in his years: another 9/11 has not happened since. Other than that, I can go on and on, to start with his excessive vacations. He's a shitty president, and Katrina is just one consequence of having him in office. If you look at him and his behavior, he looks like a guy who only cares about himself and those around him, and everything else seems fake... The only people who I can see a logical reason for supporting Bush are the wealthy who want his tax cuts.

09-02-2005, 09:39 AM	#13
Sarah_Jayne Now with more Jayne Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 40,077	They are bringing him in because he is the only one of the three that could hold a conversation with a black southerner and it not feel scripted.