robfantasy

An account from Nick from Evol Intent who was there go through the pages as there are links to video and other pages of interest.

video:

http://homepage.mac.com/WebObjects/F...cty=US&lang=en


Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 1:22 pm Post subject: read this fucked up bullshit

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Last night, I was booked to play an event about an hour outside of Salt Lake City, Utah. The hype behind this show was huge, they presold 700 tickets and they expected up to 3,000 people total. The promoters did an amazing job with the show.. they even made slipmats with the flyers on them to promote in local shops.

So, we got to the show around 11:15 or so and it was really cool. It was all outdoors, in a valley surrounded by huge mountains. They had an amazing light show flashing on to a mountain behind the site, the sound was booming, the crowd was about 1500 people thick and everything just seemed too good to be true really. Well...

At about 11:30 or so, I was standing behind the stage talking with someone when I noticed a helicopter pulling over one of the mountain tops. I jokingly said "Oh look, here comes big brother" to the person I was with. I wasn't far off.

The helicopter dipped lower and lower and started shining its lights on the crowd. I was kind of in awe and just sat and watched this thing circle us for a minute. As I looked back towards the crowd I saw a guy dressed in camoflauge walking by, toting an assault rifle. At this point, everyone was fully aware of what was going on . A few "troops" rushed the stage and cut the sound off and started yelling that everyone "get the fuck out of here or go to jail". This is where it got really sticky.

No one resisted. That's for sure. They had police dogs raiding the crowd of people and I saw a dog signal out a guy who obviously had some drugs on him. The soldiers attacked the guy (4 of them on 1), and kicked him a few times in the ribs and had their knees in his back and sides. As they were cuffing him, there was about 1000 kids trying to leave in the backdrop, peacefully. Next thing I know, A can of fucking TEAR GAS is launched into the crowd. People are running and screaming at this point. Girls are crying, guys are cussing... bad scene.

Now, this is all I saw with my own eyes, but I heard plenty of other accounts of the night. Now this isnt gossip I heard from some candy raver, these are instances cited straight out of the promoters mouth..

- One of the promoters friends (a very small female) was attacked by one of the police dogs. As she struggled to get away from it, the police tackled her. 3 grown men proceeded to KICK HER IN THE STOMACH.

- The police confiscated 3 video tapes in total. People were trying to document what was happening out there. The police saw one guy filming and ran after him, tackled him and his camera fell, and luckily.. his friend grabbed it and ran and got away. priceless footage. That's not all though. Out of 1,500 people, there's sure to be more footage.

- The police were rounding up the staff of the party and the main promoter went up to them with the permit for the show and said "here, I have the permit." The police then said, "no you don't" and ripped the permit out of his hand. Then, they put an assault rifle to his forehead and said "get the fuck out of here right now."



Now.. let's get the facts straight here.

This event was 100% legal. They had every permit the city told them they needed. They had a 2 MILLION DOLLAR insurance policy for the event. They had liscenced security guards at the gates confiscating any alcohol or drugs found upon entry (yes, they searched every car on the way in). Oh, I suppose I should mention that they arrested all the security guards for possession.

Oh another interesting fact.. the police did not have a warrant. The owner of the land already has a lawsuit against the city for something similar. A few months ago, she rented her land for a party and the police raided that as well. And catch this, the police forced her to LEAVE HER OWN PERSONAL PROPERTY. That's right. They didnt arrest her, but made her leave her own property!!!

Don't get it twisted, this is all going down in probably THE most conservative state in the USA. And this is scary.. a gross violation of our civil liberties. The police wanted this party shut down, so they made it happen. Even though everything about this event was legal. The promoters spent over $ 20,000 on this show and did everything they had to to make it legit, only to have it taken away from them by a group of radical neo-con's with an agenda.

This was one of the scariest things I have ever witnessed in person. I can't even begin to describe how surreal it was. Helicopters, assault rifles, tear gas, camoflauge-wearing soldiers.... why? Was that really necessary?

This needs to be big news across the USofA. At least in our music scene (edm as a whole)... this could happen to any of us at any time. When we're losing the right to gather peacefully, we're also letting the police set a standard of what we can get away with. And I think that's BULLSHIT!

The system fucked up last night... They broke up a party that was 100% legal and they physically hurt a lot of people there at the same time. The promoters already have 6 lawsuits ready to file with their lawyers and the ACLU is already involved.

I'm sure some pictures (and hopefully some video) will surface soon. I'll make sure to post them up here on 404, so you can see the Police State of America at work.

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please send emails to all the major news organizations, if enough people do it they will

report on it. to make it easier here are some links. please write a quick summary, supply

the links to these sites and mention the video footage and post the link. here are the

links again

the video:
http://homepage.mac.com/WebObjects/F...cty=US&lang=en

the boards with partygoer reports:
http://utrave.org/showthread.php?t=20020

http://www.404audio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14814

be encouraged to write to every address but please write to at least one of them and

hopefully we'll get to the bottom of this.

New york times
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CNN
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NBC

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Fox news
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go to http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,77538,00.html and click "email story"

ABC news
http://abcnews.go.com/Reference/story?id=54216 (lots of shows to contact)

USA today
http://asp.usatoday.com/marketing/fe...e.aspx?type=18

LA times
http://www.latimes.com/services/site...4908.htmlstory

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tony286

thats very fucked up glad your ok

dready

Why am I not surprised.

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robfantasy

i wasnt there, just spreading the story.. that was someone else account of what happened

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Playa-Deak

Maaannn, that's bullshit... The hell would make them fuck up a party for no reason at all.. Coming in choppers and all... Treating there own like we're the terrorists... Fuck em!

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Spunky

Holy shit..a little extreme but Raves aren't exactly welcomed because of the drug abuse and underage kids..they can be mean mofos if they want..fucked up regardless

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Adulterate

wow, thats fucked

is there no sound to the video or is it just me

Luc

does that video not have sound?

really fucked up man.

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robfantasy

no sound.. just shocking footage

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lloyd

heheh that wouldnt have been much fun rolling on e with helicopters and those [cops] running around. it'd be interesting to hear why they chose to roll in so heavy to a freaking rave, last i heard a bunch kids high on tweak or whatever arent generally in the habit of opening fire on cops.

Rob

The ravers should have fought back with their glow sticks and baby binkies!

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kektex

Shit that`s fucked up...hope you spread that vid everywhere.

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warlock5

Simular shit happened here.. cops ended up getting in big trouble.

seeric

if i had a dollar for every rave i played getting busted, i could quit the adult business. what you have got to understand is they have tons of money to fight the fake drug war thats going on. at anytime, they can cry "drugs" when associating outdoor events with "that drug music" (electronic music). and if that doesn't work, the new Patriot Act can fuck you hard. its been rough like this since 1992 when i started. i've been involved in more of these events than i'd like to take credit for. try getting your dj money from a promoter when he is in jail. get me a copy of the tape and i can put it in the hands of some people who "CAN" make a big stink about it.

sorry you experienced that. thats why i just stick to clubs now.


man, i really hate reading stuff like this. makes me ashamed about that whole "land of the free" thing.

Doctor Dre

We've always had the city collaboration in every rave event we took part in . That's what they forgot to get

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Doctor Dre

That's a good quality video ... ;)

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Why

its utah, what do you expect. its all but owned by a church. not that is justifies anything. what was seen on that video alone is fucking bullshit. after reading the story it gets even worse. i hope some people lose thier jobs over this kind of shit.

robfantasy

i mean, they were in fucking military fatigues and beating harmless kids enjoying a nite of good tunes like they were fucking terrorists.

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cambaby

Hahahahaha owned.

NaughtyRob

That is some fucked up shit.

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Dirty Dane

Other side of the story:

"Utah County Sheriff's Office shuts down Rave Party in Spanish Fork Canyon.

During the summer of 2005 the Utah County Sheriff's Office has seen an increase in the number of large Rave parties that have occurred within Utah County. Approximately four weeks ago the Sheriff's Office became aware of another possible Rave party that was to occur somewhere in Utah County on August 20, 2005.

Tickets were sold through a Salt Lake vendor, Uprock, for $20.00. Tickets could be bought in advance and directions to the exact location of the Rave would be provided on the day of the event.

Utah County mass gathering ordinance prohibits the gathering of two hundred and fifty or more persons without a permit, bond, and Utah County Commission approval.

Research was conducted and no mass gathering permit had been obtained for this incident. However, a health department permit had been obtained and EMS personnel were contracted to be on scene for first aide.

From several previous experiences with Rave parties of this size, a large amount of drug use and underage consumption of alcohol occur. In addition reports of sexual assaults, overdoses, firearm violations, vehicle burglaries, and numerous individuals drive from the party under the influence of alcohol and or drugs.

Utah County Sheriff's Office Detectives interviewed several females that had attended a prior rave party in the Utah county area in the past month that had been sexual assaulted. These females stated that the combination of drugs and alcohol made them fear for their safety due to the groping and sexual assaults that occurred during the Rave party. In the last year alone one near fatal shooting was investigated by Utah County Sheriff's Office at a similar party.

Around noon on Saturday, August 20th, the Sheriff's office learned that the Rave Party was to take place in the Diamond Fork area located in Spanish Fork canyon at the Child's ranch. At that point it was again verified that the Utah County Commissioner's office had no knowledge of this nor had a permit been obtained.

Utah County Major Crimes was contacted to assist with undercover surveillance. Both local and state SWAT teams were called in to control the crowds ( Utah County Metro SWAT, Utah Department of Corrections out of Salt Lake and Gunnison, Department of Public Safety and their helicopter and Provo SWAT) approximately 90 law enforcement personnel combined.

At 9 pm the Rave party began and by 10 pm Major Crimes observed numerous illegal activities. Which included illegal use of drugs, distribution of drugs, and underage consumption of alcohol.

It was verified that more than 250 individuals were at the party, in violation or county statutes and by 11:30 pm law enforcement personnel moved in to curtail and disburse the party. During this process at least 60 arrests were made for weapons offenses, DUI, illegal underage consumption of alcohol, possession of marijuana, possession of cocaine, possession of methamphetamine, possession of ecstasy, distribution of ecstasy, resisting arrest, assault on a police officer, and disorderly conduct.

A safety sweep was conducted after the crowd was ordered to disburse and numerous narcotic items were located scattered on the ground which included: cocaine, ecstasy, marijuana, mushrooms, alcohol and large amounts of drug paraphernalia.

A 17 year old female from West Jordan, found by officers, had overdosed on ecstasy. She was treated and released to her parents.

Several local teenagers from Spanish Fork, Springville, Provo, and Payson were identified at the party by officers. As well as, numerous individuals out of the Salt Lake and Davis County area.

Parents need to be aware of the type of illegal activities that occurs at these type of gathering. Sexual assaults, rapes, overdoses, drugs, alcohol abuse, thefts, and firearms violations. The sale of drugs at these parties is so prevalent that at this particular Rave party drugs were offered to a local off duty emergency medical service personnel who were contracted to be there. In addition two security personnel hired by the promoter were arrested for possession of cocaine and ecstasy."

http://www.co.utah.ut.us/News/DeptNe...System=SHERIFF

MerlinK

Video link no longer works? I'd like to see this -- anybody willing to host it?

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cambaby

Those cops are heros.

cjaccardi

someone repost the link

Pleasurepays

yeah... almost makes a rational person think there is a lot more to the story other than "here we were, 3000 innocent kids at a fully legal rave, (which apparently one is being led to believe is quite normal) and where no underage fucking and drinking or drugs abuse and drug sales or weapons could be found... because lets face it, raves are not known for these types of things and we were honestly just randomly attacked by a multi jurisdictional police force which included SWAT, complete with air support who all had nothing better to do that day and hate us because we are just kids having fun and they must all be Republicans"

hahahahahaha

lloyd

http://www.slow30.com/misc/gfy/facism.wmv

i'll leave it up for a while

robfantasy

wtf are u talking about bro

raves dont mean people are there to do drugs. people go to have a good time and listen to music. if people do drugs its their choice like any other concert or public place.


and its good music... not that bullshit "im going to kill you, i have guns, i sell drugs, and i am a bad ass" bullshit they forcefeed you on the radio and mtv.

what a fucking double standard

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robfantasy

http://www.utrave.org/showthread.php?t=19971

more first hand accounts..

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Mr. Hollywood

"Research was conducted and no mass gathering permit had been obtained for this incident."

"It was verified that more than 250 individuals were at the party, in violation or county statutes and by 11:30 pm law enforcement personnel moved in to curtail and disburse the party. During this process at least 60 arrests were made for weapons offenses, DUI, illegal underage consumption of alcohol, possession of marijuana, possession of cocaine, possession of methamphetamine, possession of ecstasy, distribution of ecstasy, resisting arrest, assault on a police officer, and disorderly conduct."

pocketkangaroo

Not to knock the rave, but I have a feeling the story lies somewhere in the middle of what the ravers say and what the cops say.

It does seem pretty lame to bring in dogs and helicopters and all that other stuff. If they didn't have the proper permits, just get on the mic and tell everyone to go home. No need to bust anyones balls or arrest anyone. I also think the confiscation of video tapes is bullshit and what you'd see happen in a country like China.

On the other end, they are just doing their jobs. If a guy has drugs on him, he's going to get arrested.

My opinion, it seems like the cops just went way overboard.

TheSenator

You should rename "RAVE PARTY" to "LORD IS OUR SAVIOR RALLY"

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Dirty Dane

Maybe, but if there were weapons (combined with drugs), why should they take chances with so many people?

These kind of incidents are not a new police phenomena. Just look at the before/after soccer games in several countries in Europe; massive police force, and it happens all the time that "innocent" people get unfair treatment. Shit happens, but its not without reasons in the past.

budz

www.youre.nu/?media=rave-raided&cat=wmv

or
www.youre.nu/media/rave-raided.wmv

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budz

I don't think getting emergency #'s shut down is a good idea

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budz

btw mine has sound

the police

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wtfent

Im so surprised raves are even still legal.

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Pleasurepays

i am not sure what radio and mtv have to do with anything. not really sure what you mean by double standard. i am just speaking from experience. people go to do drugs, drink and dance. this is true anywhere except in your apparently well insulated corner of the world where Ward Cleaver chapparoned the kids and drove them all home by 11:59 in his station wagon. lets not pretend that no one at the party had ever heard of X or tasted alcohol in their lives.

and i am sorry... its not a "choice" to do illegal drugs. its against the law. certainly something for law enforcement to be concerned about when you are talking about underage kids. the only person in the USA that would argue that its a personal choice for a 17 year old to O.D. on X, and that being in a "public place" is somehow a factor that makes it ok - is another 15 year old. grow up.

i notice you are not challenging the official statement that a kid OD'ed at your "drug free" party where everyone was just making balloon animals and singing Kumbaya.

i respect your "fight the power" attitude... but you have to make a reasonable argument if you want to be taken seriously.

kaktuz

fucking wicked im gonna post this shit in my site also , so more people can see this crap!

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uno

It's fucking disgusting. It's been this beat on the west coast since 92? I was too young to go to raves then, but I can remember the scene being great till around 1998 on the east coast. After that everything changed. It wasn't about the music, good times, and good people. The whole vibe was different.

Did the RAVE act actually go through? Safe rooms illegal. Glow sticks and bottled water = paraphinalea... et al

bullshit reasons any politician can stand behind to show they are tough on drugs.

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baddog

You read it on the Internet, so it must be true?

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WarChild

Fucking hippies. Would have been much better if the police just opened fire.

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baddog

90 cops, 3,000 stoned kids . . . . I would want air support and dogs too

baddog

yeah, post 9-1-1 no one knows it.

Where do you come up with this shit

baddog

Not going to happen

INever

4400 more enemies of the state

Adulterate

they do have local #'s to call.. not just 9-1-1

Adulterate

That's a good thing

ry0t

Raves suck, mostly there to do drugs I've been to them. You can't say shit about it you weren't there. Don't say it's mostly fun to listen to music. No thats not why it's called a rave. Believe me I've been to them in my 'trying to be cool days'. They are the hippies of the next generation and mostly everyone is cracked out on some kind of drug. Fuck raves.

woj

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