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Old 08-12-2005, 07:28 AM   #1
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Jonesboro school shooter free wtf??

http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/08/12/jo...ter/index.html

Sheriff Jack McCann of Craighead County, Arkansas, said that means he will be able to legally purchase guns. McCann said neither of the boys has given a reason for the shootings or expressed remorse.
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Old 08-12-2005, 07:30 AM   #2
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loop hole in the law, once a juvenile turns 21, he's a free man, how totally ridiculous!!!
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Old 08-12-2005, 07:33 AM   #3
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I would be sooooo pissed if one of my loved ones was killed or injured... they really should keep them in longer
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Old 08-12-2005, 07:35 AM   #4
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That guy will have to watch his back every second if he stays in arkansas no doubt, MANY upset parents around there
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loop hole in the law, once a juvenile turns 21, he's a free man, how totally ridiculous!!!
I understand theres a loophole in the law... They should be closing the fricking loophole, and find some other charges to bring the kid up on.

How about planting some drugs on him? lol???

I mean, this is Arkansas and Tennessee we are talking about here. Shit like that goes on ALL THE TIME. I know, I lived there, and the people who run those small towns dont get out much or see much of the rest of the world.

I doubt the little shit will be living in either one of those states from now, so now he is going to be someone elses problem.

Thanks Arkansas!!!
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Old 08-12-2005, 07:54 AM   #6
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That guy will have to watch his back every second if he stays in arkansas no doubt, MANY upset parents around there
If you kill somebody, I dont give a shit how old you are.

You should be in prison for the rest of your life.

Thats what prisons are for. To protect the people on the outside of its walls.


Ok, so now its official....

its totally cool to shoot little girls at school if your under 18, becuase your record will be wiped clean when your 21. Nice message your sending to the other disturbed little byproducts of failed parenting, Arkansas.

But the following things remain illegal in "good ole' Arkansas".......

If you mispronounce Arkansas (Ar-kan-saw) you're in for a fine or jail time. That one was made for the "northeners" im sure.

In Little Rock, flirtation between men and women on the streets may result in a 30-day jail term.

Oral sex is considered sodomy in Arkansas and is punishable.

If you live in Arkansas, you may not keep an alligator in your bathtub. (apprently, that was becoming a problem??)



Ok, enough... just do a search for " wierd laws arkansas" and the dumb shit is endless.
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Old 08-12-2005, 08:03 AM   #7
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heres another one... I couldnt resist posting this one.....

A man can legally beat his wife, but not more than once a month.
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Old 08-12-2005, 08:14 AM   #8
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it's worrying that they show no remorse for what they did
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Old 08-12-2005, 08:39 AM   #9
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heres another one... I couldnt resist posting this one.....

A man can legally beat his wife, but not more than once a month.

WTF!!!!!

No wonder Happypeekers and Deeprub wanted to move to Fl.....
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Old 08-12-2005, 08:47 AM   #10
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I understand theres a loophole in the law... They should be closing the fricking loophole
The law has already been changed. It just can't be applied retroactively to his case.
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Old 08-12-2005, 08:52 AM   #11
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The sad thing is that this kid is leaving Arkansas. We don't want that pile of shit in other states. Let him live in Arkansas where murdering kids isn't a bad thing apparently.
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Old 08-12-2005, 08:52 AM   #12
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The first recorded school shooting was May 18, 1927, Bath, Michigan.

Forty people were killed when farmer Andrew Kehoe, angry over his tax bill, set off dynamite at the local school.

As parents and town folks rushed towards the blast, Kehoe drove back into the school yard. He motioned school superintendent Emory Huyck over to his car, spoke to him briefly, then aimed a shot from his gun into the back seat of his car, setting off more dynamite.

By the time the roar from the two explosions faded, 38 children, the town's postmaster, a retired farmer, the superintendent, two teachers and Kehoe himself were dead. The body of Kehoe's wife was found at their home where Kehoe apparently killed her the morning of the blast.

(This information on Kehoe and the first school shooting was obtained from the Internet under school shooting).
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Old 08-12-2005, 09:05 AM   #13
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I understand theres a loophole in the law... They should be closing the fricking loophole, and find some other charges to bring the kid up on.

How about planting some drugs on him? lol???

I mean, this is Arkansas and Tennessee we are talking about here. Shit like that goes on ALL THE TIME. I know, I lived there, and the people who run those small towns dont get out much or see much of the rest of the world.

I doubt the little shit will be living in either one of those states from now, so now he is going to be someone elses problem.

Thanks Arkansas!!!
Funny you have so much to say about this but failed to even read the article that was first posted in the thread. Arkansas law has been changed because of this unfortunate event so they can now try someone under the age of 14 as an adult.
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Old 08-12-2005, 09:09 AM   #14
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heres another one... I couldnt resist posting this one.....
A man can legally beat his wife, but not more than once a month.

A large number of states have strange and stupid laws, weird ordinances, etc. it isn't just Arkansas lol. Some of them remain on the books still but are rarely enforced.
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Old 08-12-2005, 09:11 AM   #15
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That's one fucked up part of the law. Cripe,s if you are man enough to premeditate a murder, you're man enough to be treated like a man.
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Old 08-12-2005, 09:24 AM   #16
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A large number of states have strange and stupid laws, weird ordinances, etc. it isn't just Arkansas lol. Some of them remain on the books still but are rarely enforced.

I didnt know I was supposed to name all the dumb state laws for you.

Yea, Im aware every state has got them, and I think most people know they are not enforced.

And as far as not reading the part where they said the law was now changed.... Sorry I didnt read down that far.

I read enough to know that this little fucktard is going to be walking the streets, other then the ones in the town he murdered innocent people in.

If they closed the loophole, wow, thats great... a little too late for the people he shot and killed.

Thats also great news for his next possible victims. Now they can die easier knowing that their killer may actually go to prison, if he decides to act upon his violent urges he so apparently posseses.
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What I find interesting is both shooters were doing federal time but aren't listed with the Bureau Of Prisons. This doesn't make sense considering any other person who does federal time is listed with the BOP for life from my understanding. Even after federal release you are still in the database, on the website for life. The only thing I can come up with is b/c they were minors at the time, and the fact that the BOP had been hiding what actual federal institution was holding the shooters (for their protection I guess). Anytime you look someone up with the BOP you are given the institution so maybe they decided not to include them in it? http://www.bop.gov

Personally I don't think they deserve protection, even if they were minors when they did this. They should be included in the BOP registry just like any other criminal that is in a federal institution. I know on the news yesterday I saw a story about this and the media and prosecutors couldn't even get the BOP to divulge what institution was releasing the 21yr old murderer. That is just lame, they aren't in the business of protecting people yet they go to this extent to 'hide' where this fuckhead is being held.
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I didnt know I was supposed to name all the dumb state laws for you.

Yea, Im aware every state has got them, and I think most people know they are not enforced.

And as far as not reading the part where they said the law was now changed.... Sorry I didnt read down that far.

I read enough to know that this little fucktard is going to be walking the streets, other then the ones in the town he murdered innocent people in.

If they closed the loophole, wow, thats great... a little too late for the people he shot and killed.

Thats also great news for his next possible victims. Now they can die easier knowing that their killer may actually go to prison, if he decides to act upon his violent urges he so apparently posseses.
I just thought it was funny that you posted the article about this but didn't even read it.

What do you mean the next victims!?? He is going to become a minister!
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If the Feds hadnt stepped in and prosecuted the boys under federal gun violations the two boys would have been released when they were 18 instead of 21. That would have been pretty brutal for the victim's families. A quadruple murder and the one boy who was 13 would have done less than 5 years.

The Jonesboro killings were the major reason many states, including Tenn, changed their laws to allow for the prosecution of minors as adults.
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A quadruple murder and the one boy who was 13 would have done less than 5 years.
Actually, there were 5 murders, 4 students and 1 teacher. In addition, 9 students and another teacher were wounded.
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Funny you have so much to say about this but failed to even read the article that was first posted in the thread. Arkansas law has been changed because of this unfortunate event so they can now try someone under the age of 14 as an adult.
Its unfortunate that a child that has been obviously neglected, has to pay for a crime like that. I agree somewhat with that to a point....

But when the child "stole" the guns, and precalculated the crime of murder of several individuals, he is obviuosly not fit for society. Anyone else disagree with that????

I am not making a stance against or for gun laws. I come from a family of hunters, and have owned guns myself. I have shot dead many ducks, rabbits, squirels, deer, and racoons. I remember going hunting when i was 14 with a 20 guage shotgun..I took the hunter safety course. I seen other kids there, I was scared to death to be around, when they had a gun in their hands.

My father showed me alot of discipline and was very active in our lifes. I have always felt very fortunate for that.

What im trying to say is that, I didnt shoot anyone when i was 14, even though I owned my own shotgun. My father and mother, installed good morals and intelligence in me at an early age. My parents would have never given me a gun, if they thought I had a screw lose. Im not saying his parents gave him a gun. In the "news article" it says he stole the guns, but just like any parent should be responsible for what a child does... so should his parents.

In my mind, my parents would have been just as responsible if I were to have harmed someone with my firearm along with myself. My father would have been responsible for allowing me to go out into the world, not paying attention to the obviuos warning signs of a disturbed individual, thus neglecting me and my well being, not too mention the well being of other people.

Parents need to start bearing more responsiblity for their children, or dont have them.
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I just thought it was funny that you posted the article about this but didn't even read it.

What do you mean the next victims!?? He is going to become a minister!
Yea, its hilarious isnt it??

I think its funny how you seem to be trying to pick a bone with me.

Are you from Arkansas or some redneck haven like that???

I lived by these guys in Tennessee.. they were cousins... and hey went hunting one day... and one of them shot the other one... thinking he was a white tailed deer.

About a month after that, some guy shot his 16 year stepson while hunting...

I mean, seriuosly do I know you or something??? LOL... You seem to be taking shots at me for obvious reasons other then the article... I read it, so I posted it... did I read the part where they said they updated the "law"??

Maybe i scanned throught that part....

hes becoming a minister??? hmmm... I guess ministers are prone from hurting people??? A minister has never killed anyone? A minister have never raped anyone??? I beg to differ.

Thats good for him though, maybe he will be around some people that will actually show him some love, and that dont pick on him like the other kids at school did. But.....OHHH but if they ever do.......


BANG....

the whole front pew of bible thumpers taken out.

Im sorry, once you kill someone in cold blood, Jesus should not be allowed to save your ass. Maybe you havent read the bible???

Maye you should read that "news article" before commenting on "it".

Eye for eye, tooth for a tooth... or are you a bible thumping hipocrit from Arkansas???

They got a word for preachers "who go against", "but hide behind" the Koran.
They are called terrorists.

Same shit can be said for some of the reliqiuos nutcases here in the states.

Not an opinion.... based on fact
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What I find interesting is both shooters were doing federal time but aren't listed with the Bureau Of Prisons. This doesn't make sense considering any other person who does federal time is listed with the BOP for life from my understanding. Even after federal release you are still in the database, on the website for life. The only thing I can come up with is b/c they were minors at the time, and the fact that the BOP had been hiding what actual federal institution was holding the shooters (for their protection I guess). Anytime you look someone up with the BOP you are given the institution so maybe they decided not to include them in it? http://www.bop.gov

Personally I don't think they deserve protection, even if they were minors when they did this. They should be included in the BOP registry just like any other criminal that is in a federal institution. I know on the news yesterday I saw a story about this and the media and prosecutors couldn't even get the BOP to divulge what institution was releasing the 21yr old murderer. That is just lame, they aren't in the business of protecting people yet they go to this extent to 'hide' where this fuckhead is being held.

Now i see, you kind of agree with me...

but you had to call me out becuase you didnt think i had a right to comment on something?

Which leads me to one of my last questions....

Do I know you??? or better yet.... Do you "think" you know me??? Maybe your one of those gfy'ers that just like to try to make someone feel small and stupid??? LOL

Not working on me bro.. maybe next time

By the way.... no hard feelings about the "Arkansas" comments.. haha.. 3 of my best friends are from Arkansas...

Yo, let me know who you really are... and maybe ill buy you a beer at the next convention and we can discuss this subject further Im not hatin'..
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I was born and raised in Jonesboro .. I am now about 15 min down the road from it.. I can tell you for a fact that people in this area are very very pissed about this..
My dad owns an ambulance service here and my brother and him worked the shooting.. It has practically ruined my little brothers life. He carried one little girl in the front of the ambulance because there was not enough room for everyone.. she was shot in the head.. 9 years old..
She later died..

People here are furious and being the redneck area that it is.. I am sure his family knows to keep him as far away from jonesboro as possible.

If they dont... I am sure they will realize it very soon by all of the talk I have been hearing.
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Yeah it's a fucked up loophole in the law... But, isn't most of the laws fucked up anyways. You can get caught selling marijuana and get more prison time than if you went out and slit someones throat. A guy shot my wifes brother in the back in 04'. He got 15 years... I just seen on the news that some other guy got 30 years for selling pot....
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I was born and raised in Jonesboro .. I am now about 15 min down the road from it.. I can tell you for a fact that people in this area are very very pissed about this..
My dad owns an ambulance service here and my brother and him worked the shooting.. It has practically ruined my little brothers life. He carried one little girl in the front of the ambulance because there was not enough room for everyone.. she was shot in the head.. 9 years old..
She later died..

People here are furious and being the redneck area that it is.. I am sure his family knows to keep him as far away from jonesboro as possible.

If they dont... I am sure they will realize it very soon by all of the talk I have been hearing.
The kid getting released is surely not moving back to Jonesboro right? That would be like pouring salt into the wound.
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