I did not demand. I asked for what we agreed upon in the beginning. And I did not slander him. Everything I have said here is the truth. The only lying going on here is when Al conveniently makes stuff up to pad his case...

Lie #1... I sent them next day air on 8-10-2005
Lie #2... I'll get you the tracking number... still waiting on that one. Where's the tracking number Al?
Lie #3... I was on vacation for a month then it became 20 days. I was gone for a lil over a week. And this still has absolutely nothing to do with why they weren't sent when he kept telling me that he would or had already.
Lie #4... It was not TFP. Yes, it was TFP. I came early and I stayed late specifically to shoot TFP and we had agreed upon all of this beforehand. Believe me, I would have liked to sleep a little bit longer that day and not have to come to the shoot hours before I was really supposed to be there.
Lie #5... I did her a favor. Please Al!!! You are trying to act like you are some bigshot now. It doesn't even seem like the same HUMBLE person that I talked to when we first started talking. The only way you got me to do a TFP with you was because you hooked me up with a paid shoot. And believe me... you were trying hard to get me to come out there and work with you.

in my opinion and in the majority of other people that read this thread Al messed up here. If you want to believe otherwise... go back to the GLUE section where you belong.

How is that slander? I saw the same images and I thought the exact same thing (and I've said it in this thread as well). You can't slander someone for an opinion dipshit.

"It's my opinion that AlienQ is a dipshit."

You gonna sue me for slander? I'll let you know where to serve me.

Creative people operate in different ways.

I assume he did not want to release the photos he was not happy with them.
Sure...

He said he would get them to you Bobbi, but he never had to from the beginning either. He did you a favor shooting you for free as an extra for a commissioned shoot you were paid to perform at.

You are disrespectful.

Shut your hole...
You are only here because you are her ex boyfriend.
You are looking like a fucken pussy whipped sissy.


"Mr. Self Proclaimed "I NEVER FUCK UP EVER"."

Thats slander.

Man alive...

Pornographers these days are just getting dumber and dumber right into Dumbest.

Fuck you dorks...
So damn stupid...

HA HA HA HA..

Hey fucking idiot, *I* didn't say that, Abyss Al did.. you've got to be the biggest dipshit on the board!!

You are disrespectful and so is he. I did him a favor by shooting TFP and not charging him. I don't ever do them. He wanted to shoot with me so badly that he hooked me up with a paid gig to get me there. I shot with him to be nice because I was thankful that he got me a job. Then he dicked me around on getting the photos we shot together when the whole reason why is because he screwed up the pics. He must have had the settings wrong or something. Yet he was on here going off about how he never ever fucks up. That's a direct quote from him. He did fuck up. He fucked up the pictures, he fucked up by not doing what was agreed, he fucked up by threatening to delete my pics, he fucked up many ways and it is apparent to anyone reading this. The facts speak for themselves.

And I probably won't even be able to use those pictures. They are mostly unusable dark silhouettes.

OMG...
OK lets keep the post count rolling shall we dick nut?

Yes it was Bobbi that said
"Mr. Self Proclaimed "I NEVER FUCK UP EVER"."

Page 5 dumb fuck.

LMFAO! That he did!! LOL!

Who's dumber? Your arguments based on your opinion, or my arguments based on words that have been previously written by the person you're trying to defend?

Bobbi how do you figure this is TFP when you intended to implement the photos commercially?

And you pay him back in this manor with an ex boyfriend?

You are a real darling.

So full of your self, with knees deep in shit.

Who cares what he said.

Ultimatly it would be his decision when to release the photos if at all.
Its a non issue dude. But ya wanna keep making it some sort of valid point but it is not.

She got the photos and now she insults him about them.
You...

Your being a pussy whipped ambulance chaser.

You two are looking really good now arent ya?

Birds of a feather...

Yes... Al claimed and it is a direct quote that he NEVER FUCKS UP EVER

Right here... https://gfy.com/8034272-post95.html

Guess what! He did fuck up. The photos are dark. The lighting is harsh.

And do you need a dictionary on what slander is?

Why don't you ask Al if he wants Bobbi to post those images after his "I NEVER FUCK UP EVER" comment? Should we let GFY judge if he fucked up on that shoot or not?

I don't think you're helping Al's cause. You're continuing to bump a thread that he probably wants to go away, and you're making arguments that might bring embarassment to him. Perhaps you should just let it go?

Ambulance chaser? WTF?!? =)

slan·der ( P ) Pronunciation Key (slndr)
n.
Law. Oral communication of false statements injurious to a person's reputation.
A false and malicious statement or report about someone.


Humm...
Look like ummm exactly what ya done here Bobbi.

Oh and possibly.

ex·tor·tion ( P ) Pronunciation Key (k-stôrshn)
n.
The act or an instance of extorting.
Illegal use of one's official position or powers to obtain property, funds, or patronage.
An excessive or exorbitant charge.

Those photos are Al's property and ya extorted them out of him when he most likely was not comfortable releasing them. Now that ya got them you slander him.

slan·der ( P ) Pronunciation Key (slndr)
n.
Law. Oral communication of false statements injurious to a person's reputation.
A false and malicious statement or report about someone.


Humm...
Look like ummm exactly what ya done here Bobbi.

Oh and possibly.

ex·tor·tion ( P ) Pronunciation Key (k-stôrshn)
n.
The act or an instance of extorting.
Illegal use of one's official position or powers to obtain property, funds, or patronage.
An excessive or exorbitant charge.

Those photos are Al's property and ya extorted them out of him when he most likely was not comfortable releasing them. Now that ya got them you slander him.

He obviously doesn't understand legal terms or enjoys misusing them. First saying the stuff about slander and now you are equated to an ambulance chaser.

"I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue!" - Airplane

Denial sucks doesnt it?

now would be a great time to the break out that dictionary buddy, because LIBEL is written, slander is SPOKEN...

What are the false statements? She posted an opinion. An opinion is not slander.

http://www.expertlaw.com/library/per...efamation.html

"A defense recognized in most jurisdictions is "opinion". If the person makes a statement of opinion as opposed to fact, the statement may not support a cause of action for defamation."

Again, whatever stupid argument you want to try, I'll knock that shit down.

You need to put down the crack pipe dude!!!

I am a lawyer's daughter and I am perfectly aware of the law. With slander key word here is "false statements". Don't make me post a gallery of dark images to prove my point that he fucked up my shoot.

And extortion... are you friggin kidding me? We had an agreement to do TFP. And I'm sure a court would rule that he had to give up the images.

Bobbi created this thread to forcefully gain what was not hers.

Sig spot?

Yeah... so forceful.

Bobbi: "Al, Can I get my pictures that you promised me?"
Al: "I sent them next day air"

2 weeks later.

Bobbi: "Al, I didn't get the tracking number. Do you have it?"
Al: "You talk again and I'm deleting them"
Bobbi: "Why?"
Al: "FILES: DELETED!"

No a court would not allow you to have them.

It is his creative work to release at his choosing. Al took the pictures, they are his created works, Its called Copyright Law and he still has the right to not permit you to use them in any manor.
Unless of course you liscense them from him.

This Shoot was done under TFP in verbal agreement.
However you cross the line of what TFP is when you intended all along to implement them within your own commercial site.

He shot you for free...

this needed to be dropped onto the last page


there's been WAAAAY too much typing and not enough posting pics


:thumbsup

:pimp

Um, thats the whole point of this debate, what Al said, not what you think he meant and not what you think should have been done.

You judge people by what they say?

Wow...
You must be a real sucker to hustle.

this is so fun... same nonsense going back and forth.. you didn't even wait for me to get to the office to send you link.. truly this was planned out before hand... :1orglaugh

actual dialogue that morning:
http://www.abyssent.com/abyss_al/bb.jpg

like i said then and now... we spoke that morning.. all you had to do was wait for me to get to office and/or simply hit me up on icq and act prof about it... im done with this shit... have fun :pimp

Yes... IF there wasn't an agreement. And I'll be damned if I'm going to take legal lessons from someone who has blundered that many legal terms in such a short period of time. You don't know what you are talking about. If you ever do figure it out, let's have a conversation then.

You are assuming what I'm going to do with the pics. I haven't done anything with them yet. Just because I have a pay site, doesn't mean that I don't get to receive the pics for my TFP. But I highly doubt that my members would be interested in dark images where you can't even see me. And I didn't charge Al to shoot me, yes. I waived my modeling fee for him IN EXCHANGE for the right to use the pics. Get what a TFP is now? I know you are a bit slow but this is ridiculous!

Nice try Al. Look at the initial message and timestamp in this thread. She had been trying to get ahold of you prior to starting the thread with no response.

So she started this thread at 3:48am on the 10th. You replied back to her in this thread and in the ICQ thread at 10:46am. So it took the creation of this thread to get you to respond. Others kept bumping the thread after you responded and it took on a life of its own.

BUT IT TOOK THE CREATION OF THIS THREAD TO GET YOU TO RESPOND.

Your ICQ conversation only reinforces what Bobbi is saying.

You are damned.

You just do not know it yet.

Its GFY.

That was at 10 am... I waited that whole day like I have been saying over and over again.

Then, at 5 pm when most offices close, I got worried because I had not heard from you when you said in our ICQ message that you were going to go to the office and send me the TRACKING # (What's the tracking number Al? Why won't you answer that question?). I thought that you were going to leave the office and forget again but I did see you posting on GFY at the time so I posted in my thread and rebumped it and asked you about the tracking number. That's when you flipped out and tried to take your bad day at work or personality disorder or whatever the hell that was out on me.

https://gfy.com/8033108-post32.html

So you're saying we should completely dismiss Al when he said he forgot to send her the pics and dismiss him when he said he would send her the pics asap? I can see now why you wouldn't want anyone to judge you by what you say. :1orglaugh

Notice the time Al. 5 pm on the bump!

So you take 7 hours to go to the office? No wonder why it took 4 months to get my damn pictures!

This thread is a lot like taking a class picture of special education kids.

When you get the pictures back- you all still look retarded.


:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

And I mean that affectionately- can I close this thread due to the horse dying three pages ago?

LOL

Before this gets too far out of hand I think if this issue is resolved we should end this debate.

We can all see that Alien has no clue what he is talking about. Especially since he can barely spell anything correctly.

Bobbi I agree that this has already consumed too much of your time. Fighting with Alien will just suck you in deeper and deeper, and get you no where cause his logic is twisted and for the most part on a level most people would consider logic... Well unless you are Alien.

Lets wrap this up. You are too sweet a girl to deal with this BS.

Al has awknowledged his mistakes.

Bobbi could we wrap this up with you telling us whether you got the pictures that were promised to you or not?

Thank you,

ROFLMAO! :thumbsup

Yeah... I did that a while back but I will say it again. I got my pictures finally and I also said thank you to Al & Vee for that.

thank you hun.. I am ending this thread now. :thumbsup

PS if you need any GFY gear hit me up and Loryn will get you out a nice fun package to have fun with. :winkwink: