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Abyss: don't you realize how much this is damaging you? The easiest thing to do is just give her the pictures you promised to her.

TIME FOR PRINTS. How fucking hard is that for you to understand?

You give ALL photographers a bad name by not standing by your word and you make it hard for LEGITIMATE photographers to work with models.

Pretty lame if you ask me.

My sentiments exactly!

great... another retard talking out of his ass without knowing the full story... fuck off :321GFY

Uh oh....

Ladies and Gentleman...the shit has just officially hit the fan :Oh crap

check icq

What is your side of the story Al? I mean how could you possibly think you have a point of view on this?

HERE IS THE STORY:

you went on vacation.. about a month long
I went on vacation... 4 weeks

you got back... and went directly to the boards...

then bumped the thread again now...

ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS REMIND ME ON ICQ... but i guess that was too difficult for you to hit me up like an adult and resolve it person to person... oh well than... no loss for me... those pics i shot for you as a favor for you at no charge, and this is how you thank me...

im done.

So you claim there's a story - go ahead and tell everyone. Go ahead.

DID YOU OR DID YOU NOT TELL BOBBI THAT YOU WOULD GIVE HER THE IMAGES YOU TOOK OF HER?

You've already admitted in this thread and other threads that you would. So why haven't you? Gee, it's only been fucking months.

C'mon, share your side of the story. I think everyone is curious to know what it is.

I don't think you want to go to battle over this. You're clearly in the wrong. All you need to do to make all this go away is send Bobbi the pictures you promised you'd send her.

I went on vacation for a month? Really? Do tell... when was this?

I did remind you on ICQ... many times. I emailed, I called, I ICQed and you blew me off... I had no other choice. The only non adult here is you. You are acting unprofessionally and you are making yourself look stupid here.

All I wanted was my pictures. I don't know how many times over how many months you expected me to keep reminding you without getting anywhere until I decided to come here.

Al, I've been shooting for over 15 years man...how many TFP deals do you think
I've done over the years? Probably hundreds. And I can tell you that over the
years a few of those deliveries were late. Sometimes I got busy doing other shit
and didn't deliver the pics to the girls. But I never stooped to the level that your
stooping to now.

Who cares what the whole story is? If you owe her some pictures you should
be a man of integrity and make sure she gets them. How difficult is it to burn
a CD and stick it in the mail?

Would you fuck Sunny Leone out of her pics like you've fucked Bobbi out of
hers? I think not.

And I still don't see how this justifies you deleting my photos when you told me you had already sent them and would get back to me with the tracking number. So you lied. You didn't send them. Right?

Oh wow, you did her a HUGE favor "shooting her for free"? How about she did YOU a huge favor shooting for YOU for free? Her day rate is higher than yours. ha ha ha

TIME FOR PRINTS. That means you shoot for free, she shoots for free and you BOTH get to use the pictures, except YOU never gave her the photos.

You're digging yourself a huge hole here. Just think how this looks to other models. Do you think they're going to want to work with you when they know how you operate?

Yeah and the funny thing is that I think I encouraged some other models and maybe even her to shoot with him before I knew that all of this was going to go down.

i never said i wasnt going to send them to her.... i did tell her it was late cuz of all the new stuff coming, my vacation, and HER trip (which i will post screencap of my icq history later on when i get home)... i am pissed cuz all this moron had to do was hit me up and remind on icq or cell today like we discussed in the morning (and yes... this was arleady resolved in the morning--screencaps coming soon).......... since she cant handle that..maybe too much concentration is required or whatever... maybe she wants the attention on the boards.. i dont know... but it was totally uncalled for her to come the boards... a simple call or icq and i wouldve told her that they were being uploaded and was about to send her the link... but oh well... guess not.

i highly doubt her rates are higher than mine...HIGHLY

Yeah... exactly. That's what he's not getting here. If I don't get my pictures, I am going to definitely make it my mission to spread the word. I guarantee that he'll never make it to where he can charge models to shoot with him if this is the way he does business!

That's right... and you said that you would get back to me with the tracking number which you did not so I bumped the thread.

Please buddy!!! Let's not even go there...

I'm curious as to how reminding you continuously for 3 months is a requirement for tfp!!

Al - you made a post back on April 30 where you posted some pics of Bobbi.
So it's been three and a half months since that post was made. Three and a
half months is a bit too much to ask of a model to wait for your pics don't
you think?

Do the right thing and take 10 minutes out of your busy day to burn her a CD
and drop it in the mail. I guarantee you that you'll feel much better about doing
that than fucking her out of her pictures :thumbsup

You're such a fucking liar.

Your (words) betray you:

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/467612-ahold-abyss-al.html

Bobbi had been trying to get ahold of you to get the photos in May (!!!).. what the fuck bro? She's been trying to get her pictures from you for three fucking months. What is she supposed to think? She asked you nicely - gave you the benefit of the doubt.

You responded in that thread:

"im here.. im here..... been off for a bit... i'm back.... i will hit you up in the morning"

So anyone would assume that you'd make good on your promises to send the pictures.

No response. She kept emailing and ICQing you. Did you think she was going to go away?

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...3&postcount=16

"sorry got busy with new project and completely forgot about it.... hit me up and send me addy to send the pics"

This was on the 10th of this month. You'd think between the 10th and the 19th, you'd find the time to get her those pictures. How hard is it to zip up some files and send her the link?

It just REALLY pisses me off when a piece of shit photographer thinks he's better than the models he shoots. How classless is it to trash a model who's only been trying to get her photos for THREE MONTHS.

The bottom line is this: you're a fucking scammer and liar, and you know what, everyone can see that. You think anyone else will want to work with you when they know you're a liar? Your word is who you are in this industry.

You made your bed in this thread. Everyone knows what a piece of shit you are now. I hope you're happy.

https://gfy.com/8033749-post65.html

they are burnt and uploaded... i refuse to send them until she realises al she had to do was hit me up on icq rather bump an old thread and bring it to the boards

you're barking up the wrong tree you stupid fuck.. do a little research before you talk so big and call me names :321GFY

i already said i had delayed them... read the full thread :321GFY

Dude, excuse me for saying this but your a piece of shit. Seriously! You shot her
over three and a half months ago and your still jerking her around today about
getting her pics. That's pretty fucked up in my book bro'. And, all those other
models out there who are reading this thread will get a very good idea of what
kind of person you really are. Karma is a bitch baby :thumbsup

Happy shooting!

What are you, a three year old? She came to the board to get you to respond and you throw a tantrum? Ha ha ha.. that's funny.

All I know is, you said you've give her pictures three and a half months ago and you haven't done it yet. What research do I need to do?

What I don't get is why you don't just end this whole thing and give her the pictures? You're obviously in the wrong and you know it, yet you refuse to acknowledge this.

Just so I get this straight: she tries to get you to send her the pictures you promise for three and a half months, and YOU'RE not at fault? That's some crazy logic.

the crazy thing is abyss could of spent 10 minutes burning a CD sent it off with a tracking number and been a hero, instead he's a fuckwad

One would think... but instead he wants me to apologize for asking him here and supposedly I'm "immature and retarded". Are you friggin kidding me?

I don't get this guy!

I was just thinking the same thing - why would a guy out himself as a complete asshole and liar in front of everyone when he could have solved this whole problem by zipping up a directory and sending her the link? 5 mins tops. It just doesn't make any sense.

well, u have been nothing but professional in this entire thread :thumbsup

He probably fucked up a bunch of the pics and now he is embarrassed to send
them to her. That happened to me once.....when I first started learning to
shoot. I just explained to the girl that I was a beginner and I had my camera
set wrong...she understood. I could have ignored her for a few months and
then told her that I've already sent them off to her and that I'd give her a
tracking number a little later.....but I just thought it best to tell the truth :winkwink:

Hi, can I get the pics you took of Arika a few months ago also?

Thanks! I try!

You know, you might be right about that. Makes sense.. that's probably why he's so pissed it went to the boards - he didn't want it to be known. Too late for that now..

But I still don't get why someone is going to ruin their reputation like this. To trash a model because she's asking for what was promised is such bad taste.

Whoops! The "thanks I try" post was a response to you but I messed it up.

Wow, he's screwing you too? I guess that establishes a pattern with this guy.

Oh well, everyone knows now.. (shrug)

Sorry to hear that newbreed..

honesty is the best policy -period.

i would bet that if that were the case and he told bb, she would of blown the whole thing off

Hmmm.... do I sense a pattern of this behavior here?

Check out my sig :1orglaugh

Ha ha.. you know, it's not the crime but the coverup that always gets 'em! :thumbsup

Interesting!!!!!!!!

K, Al just told me on ICQ that Arika has recieved the pics. She is not here ATM to verify that but as soon as she tells me she finally got them I will post as such. To my knowledge they were never recieved despite a post on another board about (for which the pics were originally to be used on) them with no replies on when they would be delivered or used for promo.

If I am wrong I am wrong, and I will be the first person here to admit that.

Seems Al did deliver the pics to her (as per an ICQ screen shot) so I apologize for bringing it up here. Once I get with Arika that she recieved them I will return here.

i never fuck up my work... NEVER

talk all the shit you guys... im enjoying this alot :thumbsup

So the question becomes why won't he send Bobbi her pictures? Seems like a simple request. It's only been three and a half months..

Yeah... I tend to be pretty laid back about things... it's happened before. It sucks but accidents happen.

If you don't think this is damaging your reputation, you're nuts.

why would u act this way?

in public especially.

you had a chance to recover and be a good guy but you were a smart aleck, then posted
pics: deleted

then act like this is all fun to you all the while saying it's bb's fault but providing zero proof.

wow.

Well I would give my left nut to be as perfect as you Al. I've been learning
to shoot for over 15 years and I still tend to make a mistake every once in
a while.

Any photographer who says that they "NEVER" fuck up once in a while is
certainly not someone you want to do business with. Every shooter fucks
up once in a while but some are not mature enough to admit it.

If they will lie about something as trivial as this, what else will they lie about?