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my last post here,,, goodbye |
(damn, missed the 200 NO PRINTS FOR TIME photographers) :winkwink:
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Fuck this entire thread. All I know is Allen is one of the most responsible people I know. I'd trust him with my penis. Not that he's ever touched it before, or like I would WANT him to. I am just saying.... shit this sounds bad.
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wow ... That was some turn around ... as soon as a few known models came out and said we are no longer going to shoot ...the back peddling started ... I've been guilty of blowing up on GFY but never back peddle ... just roll with it and try to avoid it in the future ... it just looks weak .. :Oh crap
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some time. After this thread that has totally changed." From Stewie..."Vanilla was planning to do some shoots with Al next month, but after everything I've read here, I don't think she'll be going." Vee, you can think what you want but the fact is that your business and your reputation has been damaged because of this. Shap and Stewie are only two people who had the balls to post that had thought about doing business with you in the future but have decided not to after what happened here. How many other people reading this board have decided to not do business with you because of this? Give that some thought bro'......... |
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Fuck all this ego and "looking weak".. REAL men stand up and take responsibility when they make mistakes. |
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I agree it went out of proportion and i think you took some heat. I'm not saying that your bad guys or that your company is bad ... I'm just saying that things changed really fast after Stewie said he will not be sending Vanilla to shoot with you guys and Snap said he will no longer work with ya .. Post #157 Quote:
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I agree ..when your wrong you should admit it ... i'm just saying learn from it and try not to make that mistake again .. i've done it .. I think he did the right thing ... |
Yeah, sorry about the Mikey.. I misunderstood your previous message - I thought you were giving him shit for "backing down" (implying that he should have stood his ground). My bad. :thumbsup
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I hear ya ... i agree it was dragging on and going nowhere .. I'm glad you guys settled it and i wasn't trying to call you out or call ya weak .. |
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http://www.relorow.com/forum/uploads..._untitledw.jpg
See...I told you all that things would be OK. There was nothing to worry about. We are very sorry for the delay but the product was delivered via the internet today. You should also receive a CD in the mail with these same images. As soon as we are able to put our hands on the tracking number... we will provide that to you. Everyone is happy now yes? |
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It's a pretty sad situation, but I'm sure it occurs very frequently in the industry. Most models are unable to fight back and we never hear any of this stuff. Bobbi just happens to be a strong-willed woman who has a lot of friends..
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I sent you and icq a few minutes ago did you get it? |
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what up dean o? :)
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I live in Van. but I got to LA every few months for shoots and fun. I have plans to go out there in Ocotober if you will be around. I would love to hear your thoughts and reply to my post if you get a chance!!! http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=505592 |
Bump till Bobby gets her pics and an apology.
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Yeah... he's quite interesting! Too funny that he's raving about me to you and you to me. Maybe he's trying to hook us up... hahaha! :winkwink: Anyway, I replied to your post over there so check it out. And I'd love to hook up and do a shoot if I am around when you come out in October. I know that I am going to be doing some traveling, but hopefully we can coordinate our schedules. If not, put me in for first dibs on your next trip out here. Are you French Canadian or just Canadian? My mom's French Canadian. XoXoX, BB |
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Till I was 14 I was in french immersion in school so I was pretty awesome with it. I still know it and can speak it but not as great...you speak french? I am from Vancouver so not really french canada.=P P.S. THANK YOU FOR POSTING ON MY THREAD! :thumbsup :) :thumbsup |
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jerking Bobbi around for 4 months before giving her those pics that he owed her. It wasn't until some of her friends made a big deal of it that he finally decided to give her what he promised. Had "we" not got involved, he probably would have screwed her out of those pictures or at least waited another 4 months to send them over. He ignored her, he lied to her, he insulted her and then tried to make it seem that it was all her fault that she hadn't gotten her pics yet. I would say this is only half resolved....... |
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All I see is a bunch of photographers swarming in here to stomp on Abyss to look good.
Abyss is a very talented photographer. Better than some of the guys in here trying to look good. Dismissing business with him would be foolish. |
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said anything negative about his shooting. How he handled this situation however is another matter. Just because your a great shooter doesn't mean that your a good person, that your honest, reliable or have integrity. I'm very pissed at Al for behaving like this because I'm a photographer in the same industry as he is and what he did to Bobbi gives all us photographers a black eye and makes it harder for models to trust us. Get the picture? |
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I wonder about you're own integrity to continue attacking him on a deal that went bad and could have been resolved without any of this being an issue. A simple matter of miscommunication and all his trust and business acumen is shot to hell. You are full of shit. |
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decide that for themselves. All I said was it sucked that he jerked Bobbi around for 4 months without giving her the pictures that he owed her. He lied to her, he insulted her and then he tried to make her think it was her own fault for not getting the pictures. If that's the kind of "trustworthy" person you want to do business with...be my guest. :thumbsup |
i didn't want to get any more involved with this idiocy... but here...
THE ONLY REASON i went off at her is because we spoke that morning and had resolved this issue on icq.. http://www.abyssent.com/abyss_al/bb.jpg told her ince it was uploaded, she would get the link, or if my employees had sent it out, shed get the tracking..... before i could even get to the office, she had made the post.... i gotta say though.. it was kinda smart of her.... with her new site design out, what better way to get some sig views for herself than this... then immediatley followed by her "fansign" thread.... good job.... :321GFY |
Looks Like Little Miss BB has been on a promo angle all along.
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have ever hit this board. All I saw was a model who was promised pictures from a session that happened 4 months ago getting jerked around by a photographer and trying to get what was promised. Al may be a good shooter, but he takes no responsibility for his actions and that's bad news for people who are thinking about doing business with him. All he had to do was say that he fucked up and then take care of the situation immediately. Instead, he continued to jerk her around for months instead of taking 10 minutes to burn a CD and mail it out. Does Al treat his clients this way or only the girls that he shoots? I'm not gonna post anymore in this thread....so say what you want. Al fucked up royally this time and just doens't have the balls to admit and doesn't have the integrity to apologize to BB for treating her like a pile of shit. 99 percent of the people in this thread agree with me. Cheers, |
Perhaps Miss BB owes Abyss an apology as well.
Prepping and correcting her photos for release and spending the time to work with her on his own time as well and talent. He was obviously busy. Do you think the photos were not being released because of some evil spite issue on his part? BB does not deserve an apology in my opinion, if anyone should get an apology it should be Abyss. You two were quick to come in and slander him. She got message that the photos were finally comming and she made this thread while he was enroute to upload them for her even. Look at his 1st response in this thread look at his second. Of course you do not want to post in this thread anymore Dean... You are looking like a desperate whore while stepping on a comrad to look better and Bobbu just wants to be the innocent while promoting herself at his expense. Truly pathetic. |
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