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Old 07-24-2005, 11:42 AM   #151
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... we would still pay him out of principle even though GFY is no place for principles

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Because it seems that employees of BDS still want to continue with the drama.

Im just indulging them

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Yeah but it was a communications failure on both our parts as to why it wasnt completed.

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Old 07-24-2005, 11:57 AM   #152
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Bump for Andrew...

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=495668

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Old 07-24-2005, 12:02 PM   #153
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It *is* funny that Lee called BDS cocksuckers, though, lol. If that isn't the pot calling the kettle black, haha, I don't know what is.
that is pretty Funny
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Old 07-24-2005, 01:25 PM   #154
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C'mon people dont let this thread die, Andrew hasnt given you his explanation yet...

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=495668

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Old 07-24-2005, 02:54 PM   #155
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So Lee - are you going to stick to your word and pay up for these designs now?
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Old 07-24-2005, 03:00 PM   #156
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So Lee - are you going to stick to your word and pay up for these designs now?
You still want paying for shitty incomplete work? Damn Andrew you have big balls ill give you that much

Lets have a little recap of what GFY thinks..

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banners & main.html looks like it could use more work
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I agree.. woudlnt accept that work either
[QUOTE=Brujah]I agree with you about the banners, and main. Doesn't look like the usual BDS quality I've seen in their portfolio and when others have posted samples. [QUOTE]
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I have to agree that this isn't what I'd call "outstanding work".
The ideas aren't so bad ... but it seems like the guy who did the job isn't a pro and very experienced graphists ... did a lot of mistakes a lot of new graphists do .
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The sites dont look like his other design examples
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I will agree that the main page and banners need work.
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not the best design from them for sure
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I'm not sure why people here though are bitching that you did something wrong by not paying them. If "you" aren't happy with the work and you didn't publish the work then you shouldn't pay for the work until you are happy with the work. Period..

I don't pay for designs unless I'm happy with the work. I don't pay an electrician for work if I'm not satisfied with his job. I don't pay the cleaning lady if she does a shitty job, I make her ass come back and then I pay her once the job is done correctly. This is how the world works, not the other way around.
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I agree, does not look like their quality standard.. maybe it was outsourced? :-)
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it looks stripped down.
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looks like crap to me
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It's not all that great design
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I wouldn't pay for that shit either
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LOL What total bullshit.

Webmasters choose a designer based on their portfolio.

If the end result isn't of the same quality level that their portfolio implies they are capable of, then it's a bait and switch.
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I really hate to say it, but I think Lee has a legit point about the quality of the design. I dont think the quality is up there with the rest BDS sites.
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so they didn't use the colors you required, and we can see how grainy things are.

i dunno - i don't expect to pay for designs i don't like. plenty of designers have managed to meet my requirements, but if you make a design in a totally other color scheme, you can 100% expect that i won't be buying it.

i don't know the guy at blue, but i wouldn't have been thrilled with these.
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banner and main layout not that hot
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By looking at the navigation bar.. it seems outsourced...
What do YOU think the answer is?

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Old 07-24-2005, 03:03 PM   #157
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Ok so you are saying if I post the desings, you will pay for them?
GFY has spoken, your 'design' that you delivered was pure shite, dont expect to see a dime in payment.

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Old 07-24-2005, 03:08 PM   #158
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how come you never told those people that you were thrilled with the design?

did you ever tell them who choose the color scheme, layout text?
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Old 07-24-2005, 03:09 PM   #159
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GFY has spoken, your 'design' that you delivered was pure shite, dont expect to see a dime in payment.

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You're delusional if you think GFY is on your side - like I said, put your money where your mouth is, be a man, I've got nothing to hide or lose since you are the one who fucked me over - why do you keep hiding behind your pathetic self?
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Old 07-24-2005, 03:10 PM   #160
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You're delusional if you think GFY is on your side - like I said, put your money where your mouth is, be a man, I've got nothing to hide or lose since you are the one who fucked me over - why do you keep hiding behind your pathetic self?
Andrew, read some of the responses man...

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banners & main.html looks like it could use more work

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I agree.. woudlnt accept that work either
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I agree with you about the banners, and main. Doesn't look like

the usual BDS quality I've seen in their portfolio and when others have posted

samples.
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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre
I have to agree that this isn't what I'd call "outstanding

work".
The ideas aren't so bad ... but it seems like the guy who did the job isn't a

pro and very experienced graphists ... did a lot of mistakes a lot of new

graphists do .
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The sites dont look like his other design examples
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I will agree that the main page and banners need work.
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not the best design from them for sure
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I'm not sure why people here though are bitching that you did

something wrong by not paying them. If "you" aren't happy with the work and you

didn't publish the work then you shouldn't pay for the work until you are happy

with the work. Period..

I don't pay for designs unless I'm happy with the work. I don't pay an

electrician for work if I'm not satisfied with his job. I don't pay the cleaning

lady if she does a shitty job, I make her ass come back and then I pay her once

the job is done correctly. This is how the world works, not the other way

around.
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I agree, does not look like their quality standard.. maybe it

was outsourced? :-)
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it looks stripped down.
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looks like crap to me
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It's not all that great design
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I wouldn't pay for that shit either
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LOL What total bullshit.

Webmasters choose a designer based on their portfolio.

If the end result isn't of the same quality level that their portfolio implies

they are capable of, then it's a bait and switch.
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I really hate to say it, but I think Lee has a legit point

about the quality of the design. I dont think the quality is up there with the

rest BDS sites.
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so they didn't use the colors you required, and we can see how

grainy things are.

i dunno - i don't expect to pay for designs i don't like. plenty of designers

have managed to meet my requirements, but if you make a design in a totally

other color scheme, you can 100% expect that i won't be buying it.

i don't know the guy at blue, but i wouldn't have been thrilled with

these.
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banner and main layout not that hot
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By looking at the navigation bar.. it seems outsourced...

Its there in black (well grey) and white.

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bump - lee you said you'd pay for the designs when they're posted - what's going on, not sticking to your word again?
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Old 07-24-2005, 03:27 PM   #162
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bump - lee you said you'd pay for the designs when they're posted - what's going on, not sticking to your word again?
I said they would be paid for if YOU posted them and GFY agreed they were of your usual standard of work.

You didnt post the samples and GFY didnt agree

Keep going Andrew, you'll end up looking worse than you already do

As i said on the first or second pag of this thread, i have nothing to lose, yet it would appear you now have everything to lose, why didnt you post the samples? Were you aware the work was of a much lower quality than what people come to expect of you?

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lol you pick out a few out of context quotes and think GFY 'agrees with you'

????

If you read this thread, over 90% of people seem to agree with me on this one
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so why don't you put it to a poll so we can count numbers? or are you basing your assumptions on a few out of context comments?
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As i said on the first or second pag of this thread, i have nothing to lose, yet it would appear you now have everything to lose,

this is all about reputation - and because your reputation is... well.. lets be honest... somewhat lacking.. ofcourse you have nothign to lose

all I'm getting is praise & support.. so i aint' losing nothing
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Old 07-24-2005, 03:54 PM   #166
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this is all about reputation - and because your reputation is... well.. lets be honest... somewhat lacking.. ofcourse you have nothign to lose
So that makes it okay to deliver low quality design work?

Wow, i understand what went wrong now.

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So that makes it okay to deliver low quality design work?
why do you mention quality after all these years? you loved the design 100% at the time, why has it taken you this long to raise the issue?

Oh that's right, you are looking for a new excuse for why you dont' want to pay your invoice. What will it be next week, something about the hurricane again?

the design isn't low quality, the colors & layout are shit for one reason only - YOU SELECTED THEM!!!
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:2cents This thread is getting to predictable and redundant...

Ok, Lee said in emails he likes designs and he'll pay for them? Then he backs up and say's post on gfy and let them decide if the designs should be paid for? And then......

Let me shut up... I don't have 1000's of posts to be tooken seriously... Great thread though...
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Ok, Lee said in emails he likes designs and he'll pay for them? Then he backs up and say's post on gfy and let them decide if the designs should be paid for? And then......

Let me shut up... I don't have 1000's of posts to be tooken seriously... Great thread though...
hard to know what lee will do, he admitted initially that he was in the wrong and that he would pay for them - but since then he's tried every excuse in the book to avoid paying his bills!

Nice content you got there man, I have a client who was looking for that kind of stuff, I will send him your way
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OK, so you want the GFY to tell if BDS has to be paid or not?

Well, the designs are certainly sub-par, I gotta admit I was surprised

Still, since you said you were happy AT THAT TIME, YOU GOTTA PAY ANYWAY
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If you want paying for the design work i ordered from you almost 2 years ago, post a sample of the 'design' work you supposedly did for me and also make a statement that it is the same quality as work in your regular design portfolio.

Let GFY decide if the work passes the 'quality test', the ball is in your court

Post the work, if it is of a good quality, as voted for by GFY'ers you'll get paid, if it doesnt meet the quality of the other sites in your portfolio, you are shit out of luck, i have nothing to lose here, do you?

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Lee,

I have done exactly what you said:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=495875

It's all posted here, and GFY will decide

I only hope you are man enough to keep your half of the bargain with payment - I don't even want your money anymore, I'm sending it to charity, at least someone will benifit from your stupidity.

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If you want paying for the design work i ordered from you almost 2 years ago, post a sample of the 'design' work you supposedly did for me and also make a statement that it is the same quality as work in your regular design portfolio.

Let GFY decide if the work passes the 'quality test', the ball is in your court

Post the work, if it is of a good quality, as voted for by GFY'ers you'll get paid, if it doesnt meet the quality of the other sites in your portfolio, you are shit out of luck, i have nothing to lose here, do you?

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Lee,

I have done exactly what you said:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=495875

It's all posted here, and GFY will decide

I only hope you are man enough to keep your half of the bargain with payment - I don't even want your money anymore, I'm sending it to charity, at least someone will benifit from your stupidity.

Andrew

So Lee, are you going to stick to your word this time?

I did exactly what you said, don't you want to conclude this matter?

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=495875
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Hi lee are you still calling us out????

or are you hiding again, too afraid to post now that it's time to pay up???
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Lee is completely untrustworthy I would never do business with him...you would be wise to follow suit...

Andrew don't let him waste anymore of your time or money. Everyone knows he is a complete asshat.
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This has nothing to do with this guy and he probably is a dickhead who didn't pay but a friend of mine had a bad experience with this design company aswell. Jobs were rushed, instructions not followed and quality control was non-existant. He was sent broken designs and then had to battle to get them to alter it and then was blamed for being difficult when requesting changes. The customer is always right, if you're paying top dollar for something to be done then it should be done to your expectations and not made to feel guilty simply because you want something changed.

They do some quality design work but in most cases you better like what they send you first time around otherwise you're stuck with it unless you fight with them to fix it... With that said, the guy above prolly did just refuse to pay I don't know just sharing the experience my friend had.

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