Why do you have your icq show as "available" when you are not "available?" - GoFuckYourself.com

Cory W · 07-17-2005, 01:39 PM

If you see me "available," rest assured, I am available.

And yes, I am actually online that much.

I just don't get it. I have icq'd 5 people this morning that leave themselves set at "available" all the time.

I believe that 80% of you do this.

Tala · 07-17-2005, 01:42 PM

Nope. I'm usually set as Away or invisible.

Peaches · 07-17-2005, 01:42 PM

I do the opposite - I'm always showing unavailable when 85% of the time I'm available

Everyone I deal with knows that though - keeps the riff raff out ;)

eroswebmaster · 07-17-2005, 01:42 PM

Why do a lot of people who should be available always have themselves set at Non-Available?

I know many sales reps do this 365.

brand0n · 07-17-2005, 01:43 PM

thats why i asked u to get on aim the other day

icq is so fucking stupid, i dont know why its our standard

its the people who are always away the piss me off. i know you are there, but it shows u away. i hit u up, bling u are there. why hide?

Peaches · 07-17-2005, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by eroswebmaster

Why do a lot of people who should be available always have themselves set at Non-Available?

I know many sales reps do this 365.

See above

Cory W · 07-17-2005, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Tala

Nope. I'm usually set as Away or invisible.

I hate people that set to invisible. I have to go into my prefs and change to "show offline contacts" and then sift through them all.

And then, it is back to square one. You may or may not be there. You might as well show as "available" all the time.

I don't get it. But I am not that smart so it is par for the course haha

Cory W · 07-17-2005, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by brand0n

thats why i asked u to get on aim the other day

icq is so fucking stupid, i dont know why its our standard

its the people who are always away the piss me off. i know you are there, but it shows u away. i hit u up, bling u are there. why hide?

I agree with you.

I use AIM a lot.

Hell man, if someone shows "available" on icq, I will see, pending I have the contact, if their AIM is online so I don't waste my time.

Peaches · 07-17-2005, 01:47 PM

I have all the WEG peeps on AIM - that way I leave it on during "working hours" and they can harass me constantly

eroswebmaster · 07-17-2005, 01:48 PM

What I hate more than any of this is the "Hi are you there?" messages.

IT'S A TEXT CHAT MEDIUM PEOPLE!!!

Type what you need, then move on and I will answer when I am around.

But usually by the time I get back to them they are no longer around and I spend a day or two to find out what they wanted.

Cory W · 07-17-2005, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by eroswebmaster

What I hate more than any of this is the "Hi are you there?" messages.

IT'S A TEXT CHAT MEDIUM PEOPLE!!!

Haha...

I admit, I roam around a lot. So I may be walking around but if I show available, I am getting your message (pending there aren't tech issues with the connection).

I have been up and online since about 7am working on this promotion stuff. I am about to go swim some laps in the pool and take Chopper off. I will turn set myself to "away." haha

brand0n · 07-17-2005, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Peaches

I do the opposite - I'm always showing unavailable when 85% of the time I'm available

Everyone I deal with knows that though - keeps the riff raff out ;)

the riff raff might be looking to ask you questions about your program, but see that you arent online or there to help them and move right on to another program

a1ka1ine · 07-17-2005, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peaches

I do the opposite - I'm always showing unavailable when 85% of the time I'm available

Everyone I deal with knows that though - keeps the riff raff out ;)

its the best way. id rather be not available but help someone out, than available and not be around to help. so i set status to away most the time

Nylz · 07-17-2005, 01:53 PM

I show as available all the time, I can't really be bothered to put myself on N/A everytime I leave... *shrugs*

Cory W · 07-17-2005, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by a1ka1ine

its the best way. id rather be not available but help someone out, than available and not be around to help. so i set status to away most the time

I honestly did not understand what you meant. Honestly, I just don't understand why you would not just be available when you are available.

Hell, if riff raff hits me up, which is rare, I just don't reply.

Peaches · 07-17-2005, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by brand0n

the riff raff might be looking to ask you questions about your program, but see that you arent online or there to help them and move right on to another program

Nope, the riff raff are those who aren't in the biz wanting cyber sex

I get tons of new "adds" a day that I hop on immediately (so to speak!) that are new business folks. Old business folks already know I'm really there - I've been using ICQ with this same ID for years - and if not, the message will pop up when I get back online

Cory W · 07-17-2005, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Nylz

I show as available all the time, I can't really be bothered to put myself on N/A everytime I leave... *shrugs*

It's a timed setting though. In other words, when I get up and leave, after I no activity on my machine for x time, it goes to away or na...not sure which one.

brand0n · 07-17-2005, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by WEG Cory

I honestly did not understand what you meant. Honestly, I just don't understand why you would not just be available when you are available.

Hell, if riff raff hits me up, which is rare, I just don't reply.

i consider myself riff raff and ive got just as much traffic as the next guy

Cory W · 07-17-2005, 01:57 PM

I have to say, Poppy is great about it. If that dude shows online, you bet he is.

Cory W · 07-17-2005, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by brand0n

i consider myself riff raff and ive got just as much traffic as the next guy

You set that yet?

Peaches · 07-17-2005, 01:58 PM

Having a username of "brand0n" or "WEGCory" brings different folks to ICQ than having "Peaches"

pornguy · 07-17-2005, 01:59 PM

I do it, because I never take the time to change it. And my laptop is usually online 24/7

Cory W · 07-17-2005, 02:00 PM

It is nothing personal, everyone does their thing one way for a reason I suppose. I just don't see the logics involved.

But as I said, I am not a bright one apparently.

Cory W · 07-17-2005, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by pornguy

I do it, because I never take the time to change it. And my laptop is usually online 24/7

You should be able to set a timer for activity.

Peaches · 07-17-2005, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by WEG Cory

But as I said, I am not a bright one apparently.

YOU'VE been to the Genius Bar - I have not

Nylz · 07-17-2005, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by WEG Cory

It's a timed setting though. In other words, when I get up and leave, after I no activity on my machine for x time, it goes to away or na...not sure which one.

Hm... not here..

I know I have that setting on MSN, but I turned that off, because most of the people on msn are only bothering me while I'm working so I just don't answer, but as soon as I left for 5 minutes and came back afterwards, msn switched to away, and after that back to online as soon as I started using my computer again... people would know I was back and start talking to me again :P

It's also a possibility to set myself at 'away' all the time, but I don't like that :P

Cory W · 07-17-2005, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Nylz

Hm... not here..

I know I have that setting on MSN, but I turned that off, because most of the people on msn are only bothering me while I'm working so I just don't answer, but as soon as I left for 5 minutes and came back afterwards, msn switched to away, and after that back to online as soon as I started using my computer again... people would know I was back and start talking to me again :P

It's also a possibility to set myself at 'away' all the time, but I don't like that :P

If I am away for 10 minutes, it says I am idle. 10 more minutes, I am away.

Peaches · 07-17-2005, 02:11 PM

What program are you using, Cory? And what are those times after the usernames?

Rui · 07-17-2005, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peaches

I do the opposite - I'm always showing unavailable when 85% of the time I'm available

Everyone I deal with knows that though - keeps the riff raff out ;)

Exact samething here

Cory W · 07-17-2005, 02:16 PM

Adium.

The times tell me how long someone has been away. For example, when Chris goes to Vegas, it can read 3 days, 42 minutes.

haha

But it only works if people are on timed prefs. Chris and Poppy both are. They both use PCs.

BlackCrayon · 07-17-2005, 02:25 PM

i just stay in n/a mode all the time. why? because most of the time i am on the computer i am busy with one thing or another and i rather have ppl think i am just not there than ignoring them but i always respond to whoever messages me when i get a few minutes.

Nylz · 07-17-2005, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by WEG Cory

If I am away for 10 minutes, it says I am idle. 10 more minutes, I am away.

Hmmm
maybe I should do that as well..

rofl @ Juicylinks Da Guido !!

fudpuck · 07-17-2005, 02:38 PM

It's too complicated. I use ICQ and Yahoo regularly, and MSN every once in a while. I use at least 4 different computers and my phone, all running different OS's, at different locations. Sometimes I use the stock interface for each client, sometimes Trillian, sometimes GAIM. They all have different settings, different timers, different away messages, etc.

If I'm on, I'll respond. If I'm gone, I'll respond when I get back.

Cory W · 07-17-2005, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Nylz

Hmmm

rofl @ Juicylinks Da Guido !!

I can explain that.

Sometime later when I have more time.

Barefootsies · 07-17-2005, 04:17 PM

I remain invisible unless I have time to talk. Normally this applies when I am in the middle of 'business' and dealing with one person in particular, or grabbing offlines. If I do not have time to chat for more than a few minutes, I stay invisible. If I have time to shoot the breeze, then I will be otherwise.

Meloman · 07-17-2005, 05:39 PM

I always leave my icq on invisible. I got in the hang of it a few years ago when my icq was going off left and right with spam (ifriends etc.. fake spam messages).

Plus it keeps people from icqing me just to chat about nothing when they're bored.

But I am online practically 24 hours a day regardless and usually very prompt at returning icq's/emails.

woj · 07-17-2005, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Meloman

I always leave my icq on invisible. I got in the hang of it a few years ago when my icq was going off left and right with spam (ifriends etc.. fake spam messages).

Plus it keeps people from icqing me just to chat about nothing when they're bored.

But I am online practically 24 hours a day regardless and usually very prompt at returning icq's/emails.

same here

Cory W · 07-17-2005, 08:06 PM

It is dependent on your job no doubt.

Spunky · 07-17-2005, 08:08 PM

They probably never log off when they step away

StuartD · 07-17-2005, 08:12 PM

I constantly get messages from people when I'm set to away or not available... even when I'm offline.

Why?? Because people are used to everyone else being set to something other than "available."

I asked someone once, why message me if I'm "not available" and they said "because I am always set to not available when I'm online so I figured you would be there too"

Sorry, I actually use the icq away messages for what they're intended. If I'm not available, don't expect me to be available.

Extreme Holly · 07-17-2005, 08:27 PM

I forget because my computer is on all the time and I get busy, so I am someone who leaves my icq on available and I am really not, LOL.

Meloman · 07-17-2005, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by NichePay - StuartD

I constantly get messages from people when I'm set to away or not available... even when I'm offline.

Why?? Because people are used to everyone else being set to something other than "available."

I asked someone once, why message me if I'm "not available" and they said "because I am always set to not available when I'm online so I figured you would be there too"

Sorry, I actually use the icq away messages for what they're intended. If I'm not available, don't expect me to be available.

I kinda look at it just like a voice mail message or even email. I don't expect people to be online at the same time as me. So I'll still just leave an icq message (saying whatever it is I needed) and figure they'll reply back whenever. Pretty much like an email but on icq.

I never really pay attention to whether someone is actually online or not, I just leave an icq message whenever.

But I never expect to get an instant response always figuring the person is away.

gideongallery · 07-17-2005, 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peaches

I do the opposite - I'm always showing unavailable when 85% of the time I'm available

Everyone I deal with knows that though - keeps the riff raff out ;)

doesn't spilling the beans here defeat that benefit

Cory W · 07-18-2005, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meloman

I kinda look at it just like a voice mail message or even email. I don't expect people to be online at the same time as me. So I'll still just leave an icq message (saying whatever it is I needed) and figure they'll reply back whenever. Pretty much like an email but on icq.

I never really pay attention to whether someone is actually online or not, I just leave an icq message whenever.

But I never expect to get an instant response always figuring the person is away.

I will send people messages whether they are online, offline, away, N/A, I don't care. I agree it is a messaging center.

But take this for example. I go online and see that Poppy shows online and I need something, I know he is there If he shows offline and it is important, I may just call him instead.

Peaches · 07-18-2005, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery

doesn't spilling the beans here defeat that benefit

As explained earlier, the riff raff doesn't come from the industry

Cory W · 07-18-2005, 10:25 AM

Peaches gets hit up about anal sessions.

Cory W · 07-18-2005, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Peaches

As explained earlier, the riff raff doesn't come from the industry

What industry are you in???? hahaha

CDSmith · 07-18-2005, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peaches

I do the opposite - I'm always showing unavailable when 85% of the time I'm available

Everyone I deal with knows that though - keeps the riff raff out ;)

Yes. Also if you get up and walk away from the computer for a while and forget to adjust your ICQ no one will get mad at you for being away since your ICQ already says you're away. :D

Mine is usually set to "Away" as well, but I'm here a lot of the time.

Trixxxia · 07-18-2005, 10:29 AM

I'm always available - even when I put myself *off for the night* I'm normally here just that I'm not sitting in front of the computer every minute - I may be outside smoking or watching a show and will glance at the screen to see if anyone has written. I'll only take myself offline or put myself unavailable if I'm in an online meeting or if my computer is shutdown.

I'd hate to think I missed a message - *crazy, I know*

eros, I'm guilty of the 'are you there?' messages hehehe With about 48% of my list on *orphaned* a good part of my messages never make it through *and I have to know when they don't*

CDSmith · 07-18-2005, 10:33 AM

I hate it when someone messages me with "Are you there?"

Just say what it is you want. Say it. Spit it out, I'll get it when I get it and respond. Why do I have to be there for you to say what it is you want?

Or idiots who say "Hey" with their first message to you. Wtf is that?

"sup" <----- utterly retarded. (unless I previously contacted you, but then again if I did you would know "What's up")

"hi"...... uh yeah hi, tell me who you are and what you want already.

Yes, some things are better said when the person is on, but you can still tell them what the gist of it is instead of saying "you there?"

grrr

:D

07-17-2005, 01:39 PM	#1
Cory W Deeply shallow Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Hollywood, Ca. Posts: 9,133	Why do you have your icq show as "available" when you are not "available?" If you see me "available," rest assured, I am available. And yes, I am actually online that much. I just don't get it. I have icq'd 5 people this morning that leave themselves set at "available" all the time. I believe that 80% of you do this. __________________ ICQ: 292310358 Offering writing and content services (mainstream). Marketing for L3 Payments

07-17-2005, 01:42 PM	#2
Tala Fucked if I know Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Do you have a flag? Posts: 23,368	Nope. I'm usually set as Away or invisible. __________________ ICQ: 11120676 \| Google: mindcrime \| Skype: suitemindcrime\|E-Mail: mindcrime AT gmail.com\|PR girl with great writing skills for hire!!!! Contact me to work for YOU!\|TECHIEMEDIA? 24/7 support from some of the best techs in the biz. Tell Jim that I sent you.

07-17-2005, 01:42 PM	#4
eroswebmaster March 1st, 2003 Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Seat 4 @ Venetian Poker Room Posts: 20,295	Why do a lot of people who should be available always have themselves set at Non-Available? I know many sales reps do this 365. __________________ For rent - ICQ 127-027-910 Click here for more details

07-17-2005, 01:43 PM	#5
brand0n been very busy Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: the queen city Posts: 26,983	thats why i asked u to get on aim the other day icq is so fucking stupid, i dont know why its our standard its the people who are always away the piss me off. i know you are there, but it shows u away. i hit u up, bling u are there. why hide? __________________ want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.

07-17-2005, 01:48 PM	#10
eroswebmaster March 1st, 2003 Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Seat 4 @ Venetian Poker Room Posts: 20,295	What I hate more than any of this is the "Hi are you there?" messages. IT'S A TEXT CHAT MEDIUM PEOPLE!!! Type what you need, then move on and I will answer when I am around. But usually by the time I get back to them they are no longer around and I spend a day or two to find out what they wanted. __________________ For rent - ICQ 127-027-910 Click here for more details

07-17-2005, 01:42 PM	#3
Peaches Old broad Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Away Posts: 13,933	I do the opposite - I'm always showing unavailable when 85% of the time I'm available Everyone I deal with knows that though - keeps the riff raff out ;)

07-17-2005, 01:47 PM	#9
Peaches Old broad Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Away Posts: 13,933	I have all the WEG peeps on AIM - that way I leave it on during "working hours" and they can harass me constantly

07-17-2005, 01:53 PM	#14
Nylz Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Rotterdam Posts: 8,285	I show as available all the time, I can't really be bothered to put myself on N/A everytime I leave... shrugs __________________ No sig.

07-17-2005, 01:57 PM	#19
Cory W Deeply shallow Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Hollywood, Ca. Posts: 9,133	I have to say, Poppy is great about it. If that dude shows online, you bet he is. __________________ ICQ: 292310358 Offering writing and content services (mainstream). Marketing for L3 Payments

07-17-2005, 01:58 PM	#21
Peaches Old broad Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Away Posts: 13,933	Having a username of "brand0n" or "WEGCory" brings different folks to ICQ than having "Peaches"

07-17-2005, 01:59 PM	#22
pornguy Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Homeless Posts: 62,911	I do it, because I never take the time to change it. And my laptop is usually online 24/7 __________________ PornGuy skype me pornguy_epic AmateurDough The Hottes Shemales online! TChicks.com \| Angeles Cid \| Mariana Cordoba \| MAILERS WELCOME!

07-17-2005, 02:00 PM	#23
Cory W Deeply shallow Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Hollywood, Ca. Posts: 9,133	It is nothing personal, everyone does their thing one way for a reason I suppose. I just don't see the logics involved. But as I said, I am not a bright one apparently. __________________ ICQ: 292310358 Offering writing and content services (mainstream). Marketing for L3 Payments

07-17-2005, 02:11 PM	#28
Peaches Old broad Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Away Posts: 13,933	What program are you using, Cory? And what are those times after the usernames?

07-17-2005, 02:16 PM	#30
Cory W Deeply shallow Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Hollywood, Ca. Posts: 9,133	Adium. The times tell me how long someone has been away. For example, when Chris goes to Vegas, it can read 3 days, 42 minutes. haha But it only works if people are on timed prefs. Chris and Poppy both are. They both use PCs. __________________ ICQ: 292310358 Offering writing and content services (mainstream). Marketing for L3 Payments

07-17-2005, 02:25 PM	#31
BlackCrayon Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ottawa Posts: 19,631	i just stay in n/a mode all the time. why? because most of the time i am on the computer i am busy with one thing or another and i rather have ppl think i am just not there than ignoring them but i always respond to whoever messages me when i get a few minutes. __________________ you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

07-17-2005, 02:38 PM	#33
fudpuck Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: the woodwork Posts: 885	It's too complicated. I use ICQ and Yahoo regularly, and MSN every once in a while. I use at least 4 different computers and my phone, all running different OS's, at different locations. Sometimes I use the stock interface for each client, sometimes Trillian, sometimes GAIM. They all have different settings, different timers, different away messages, etc. If I'm on, I'll respond. If I'm gone, I'll respond when I get back. __________________ AMK Hosting - 3.2Ghz, 1GB RAM, 2x300GB RAID1 + 10Mbps for $249mo. ICQ: 15898919 - Ask me about remote backups for your data.

07-17-2005, 04:17 PM	#35
Barefootsies Choice is an Illusion Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Land of Obama Posts: 42,635	I remain invisible unless I have time to talk. Normally this applies when I am in the middle of 'business' and dealing with one person in particular, or grabbing offlines. If I do not have time to chat for more than a few minutes, I stay invisible. If I have time to shoot the breeze, then I will be otherwise. __________________ Should You Email Your Members? Link1 \| Link2 \| Link3 Enough Said. "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

07-17-2005, 05:39 PM	#36
Meloman Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Sacramento,CA Posts: 1,540	I always leave my icq on invisible. I got in the hang of it a few years ago when my icq was going off left and right with spam (ifriends etc.. fake spam messages). Plus it keeps people from icqing me just to chat about nothing when they're bored. But I am online practically 24 hours a day regardless and usually very prompt at returning icq's/emails.

07-17-2005, 08:06 PM	#38
Cory W Deeply shallow Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Hollywood, Ca. Posts: 9,133	It is dependent on your job no doubt. __________________ ICQ: 292310358 Offering writing and content services (mainstream). Marketing for L3 Payments

07-17-2005, 08:08 PM	#39
Spunky I need a beer Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: ♠ Toiletville ♠ Posts: 133,944	They probably never log off when they step away __________________ *YOUR INFORMATION HERE*

07-17-2005, 08:12 PM	#40
StuartD Sofa King Band Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Outside the box Posts: 29,903	I constantly get messages from people when I'm set to away or not available... even when I'm offline. Why?? Because people are used to everyone else being set to something other than "available." I asked someone once, why message me if I'm "not available" and they said "because I am always set to not available when I'm online so I figured you would be there too" Sorry, I actually use the icq away messages for what they're intended. If I'm not available, don't expect me to be available. __________________ This is me on facebook This is me on twitter

07-17-2005, 08:27 PM	#41
Extreme Holly Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 444	I forget because my computer is on all the time and I get busy, so I am someone who leaves my icq on available and I am really not, LOL. __________________ Promote me, Blowjob Races and Sexy Solo Sluts! Hundreds of hosted galleries, 15% referral, no fees...

07-18-2005, 10:25 AM	#46
Cory W Deeply shallow Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Hollywood, Ca. Posts: 9,133	Peaches gets hit up about anal sessions. __________________ ICQ: 292310358 Offering writing and content services (mainstream). Marketing for L3 Payments

07-18-2005, 10:29 AM	#49
Trixxxia Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 5,600	I'm always available - even when I put myself off for the night I'm normally here just that I'm not sitting in front of the computer every minute - I may be outside smoking or watching a show and will glance at the screen to see if anyone has written. I'll only take myself offline or put myself unavailable if I'm in an online meeting or if my computer is shutdown. I'd hate to think I missed a message - crazy, I know eros, I'm guilty of the 'are you there?' messages hehehe With about 48% of my list on orphaned a good part of my messages never make it through and I have to know when they don't

07-18-2005, 10:33 AM	#50
CDSmith Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: My network is hosted at TECHIEMEDIA.net ...Wait, you meant where am I located at? Oh... okay, I'm in Winnipeg, Canada. Oops. :) Posts: 51,460	I hate it when someone messages me with "Are you there?" Just say what it is you want. Say it. Spit it out, I'll get it when I get it and respond. Why do I have to be there for you to say what it is you want? Or idiots who say "Hey" with their first message to you. Wtf is that? "sup" <----- utterly retarded. (unless I previously contacted you, but then again if I did you would know "What's up") "hi"...... uh yeah hi, tell me who you are and what you want already. Yes, some things are better said when the person is on, but you can still tell them what the gist of it is instead of saying "you there?" grrr :D __________________ *Promote Wildmatch, ImLive, Sexier.com, and more!!* ALWAYS THE HIGHEST PAYOUTS: Big Bux/ImLive SIGNUP ON NOW!!! Put some PUSSYCA$H in your pocket. ICQ me at: 31024634