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Old 07-05-2005, 02:54 PM   #51
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Old 07-05-2005, 02:59 PM   #52
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Old 07-05-2005, 03:07 PM   #53
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We're talking about unique hits here, not the same surfer recycled a donzen times.
Who cares about unique hits? Care about making money!
If you got 1 gallery listed on a TGP that is not yours, the chance of making a sale is less than if you have several galleries listed on your own TGP. Why? Because most surfers click more than one time before they buy anything. So basically you can make more money out of a 20K tgp than 200k tgp, if all galleries are yours. + you can have your own spots/links to paysites.
I had many listings on thehun, but my shitty sites made more money. The galleries were the same, only more to choose from
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Old 07-05-2005, 03:22 PM   #54
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Dane, this is just a wild guess, but I am thinking you never ran a 20k TGP/MGP, or have even seen the stats from one.

A 20k site sending out 1M daily hits to galleries would be worth it's weight in gold. It sounds like a simple math formula, but it has no basis in reality.

Sorry if I was harsh, as it wasn't like you were rippin gon someone selling something, or some other common balony that goes on here. You simply stated an idea. I should have been more patient, and pointed out how this idea just wasn't as easy as it looks on paper.
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Old 07-05-2005, 03:26 PM   #55
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Old 07-05-2005, 03:31 PM   #56
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Who cares about unique hits? Care about making money!
If you got 1 gallery listed on a TGP that is not yours, the chance of making a sale is less than if you have several galleries listed on your own TGP. Why? Because most surfers click more than one time before they buy anything. So basically you can make more money out of a 20K tgp than 200k tgp, if all galleries are yours. + you can have your own spots/links to paysites.
I had many listings on thehun, but my shitty sites made more money. The galleries were the same, only more to choose from

Exactly care about making money.

If you got 1,000,000 hits to galleries but all generated from 5 tgps with a total of 100,000 unique surfers... I bet you'd make a lot less than if you have 1,000,000 hits to galleries generated from 100 tgps with a total of 1,000,000 unique surfers.

While a paying surfer, on average, buys more than one membership, I don't think they do it all at once. I'm of the belief that sign ups are generated from galleries (it's different from other methods) with the surfer's "cock-in-hand". That's to say he found something that really did it for him and he wants to see more of that right now. If this is true, it clearly supports the theory that more unique hits = more sales. Who knows, maybe I don't know shit.
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Old 07-05-2005, 03:34 PM   #57
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I'm of the belief that sign ups are generated from galleries (it's different from other methods) with the surfer's "cock-in-hand". That's to say he found something that really did it for him and he wants to see more of that right now. If this is true, it clearly supports the theory that more unique hits = more sales. Who knows, maybe I don't know shit.
very interesting theory and i'm serious
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Old 07-05-2005, 03:51 PM   #59
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Dane, this is just a wild guess, but I am thinking you never ran a 20k TGP/MGP, or have even seen the stats from one.

A 20k site sending out 1M daily hits to galleries would be worth it's weight in gold. It sounds like a simple math formula, but it has no basis in reality.
1 mill is unrealistic with a 20k tgp, because everyone had to click each 50 galleries. But if you have several tgps it could be realized.
My experience is from one of my freesites, not regular tgp, updating once a week, and with about 20k from mainsite its worth average 12-15 sales per day. In addition there are sales from traffic directly to galleries from other sources; SE, other freesites linkings, forums etc, in all 600k-800k daily raw hits.
When I get listed thehun (free spot), I am usually lucky if I get more than 10 sales, and that is with a lot more traffic than from my mainsite. But both strategies works, one better than another, but I try to cover it all
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Old 07-05-2005, 03:59 PM   #60
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The number of galleries a surfer looks at is meaningless. Especially if we're talking a general category TGP.

Someone could click on 10 galleries and end up not liking any of them. Then the next guy sees just one and it's exactly what he wanted. So traffic numbers are tough to analyze in this area.
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Old 07-06-2005, 10:40 AM   #61
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Old 07-06-2005, 11:33 AM   #62
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Old 07-06-2005, 12:28 PM   #63
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Anyone knows the name of the song that is on the dreamsubmitter promo video ?
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Old 07-06-2005, 03:09 PM   #64
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Old 07-06-2005, 03:17 PM   #65
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sends 900,000 to galleries a day

moviesguy network sends 1 million to galleries a day

just those 2 alone

the list goes on.
they don't mean overall traffic a tgp/mgp sends to all galleries. he means getting 1mil to your galleries you submit every day.
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Old 07-06-2005, 03:36 PM   #66
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How good is their TGP DB?
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Old 07-06-2005, 03:47 PM   #67
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they're all good for a lot of sales a day, I can tell you that
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Old 07-06-2005, 06:26 PM   #68
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that's impossible for me.
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That's how many they send cumatively. Unless you plan for every gallery they list to be yours, you're not going to get anywhere near the much.

your partner account on traffic bomb, your galleries goto the top as soon as y ou submit them,

same with moviesguy. on the acception of jizzhut, they go next day.

rest of moviesguy nextwork they get put on next time they get reloaded, all depends on the thumb, better the thumb more clicks it will goto the top.
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they don't mean overall traffic a tgp/mgp sends to all galleries. he means getting 1mil to your galleries you submit every day.
ya but those arent the only partners i have, pichunter my gals go to the front page automatically which is good traffic. i dont bother with all the small sites in the submitters, i just submit by hand to about 30-40 sites. its just a waste to do 1500 sites in the submitter. when you can do high traffic sites.
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ya but those arent the only partners i have, pichunter my gals go to the front page automatically which is good traffic. i dont bother with all the small sites in the submitters, i just submit by hand to about 30-40 sites. its just a waste to do 1500 sites in the submitter. when you can do high traffic sites.
how much traffic are you getting when you submit to those 30-40 sites?
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Old 07-07-2005, 05:18 AM   #72
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IMO, it's not possible to do it NOW.

People are not giving out partner accounts like candy on Halloween anymore.
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If you're not hosting at Swiftwill, you're paying too much.
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Lol. Have you ever looked at some other hotsing companies?

You can find MUCH better prices bro...
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It requires work, but its certainly within the realm of possibility for a half-decent webmaster.
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You can find MUCH better prices bro...
You don't know what kinda deal he's got ;)
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