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woj 07-02-2005 09:01 PM

350...........

american pervert 07-02-2005 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by woj
350...........


shit, I could of had it!

will76 07-02-2005 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ
Good point though...

I should be getting paid for this shit LOL:)


might as well you don't get paid for doing anything else. :1orglaugh

jonesy 07-02-2005 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ
I am not one of them Jonesy...

We already went through this!
I am doing some discussion here so at least people might be able to make an educated investigation of the potential of a TLD.

Again I do not supoort this version of .xxx, but I do support the possiiblity of utilizing a .xxx, or a .sex or whatever to enforce self regulation within the industry. Purchases of such domains can be used to Self Regulate.

People that oppose any kinda self regulation...

A: Have somthing to hide.
B: Do not run a legitamate business.
C: Sponsor Nefarious shit to capitalise.


Thats the truth.

chill dude i didnt say you nor did i imply that otherwise i would posted it that way - some big players obviously were and are.

Mack 07-02-2005 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Alien Q
I am not one of them Jonesy...

We already went through this!
I am doing some discussion here so at least people might be able to make an educated investigation of the potential of a TLD.

Again I do not supoort this version of .xxx, but I do support the possiiblity of utilizing a .xxx, or a .sex or whatever to enforce self regulation within the industry. Purchases of such domains can be used to Self Regulate.

People that oppose any kinda self regulation...

A: Have somthing to hide.
B: Do not run a legitamate business.
C: Sponsor Nefarious shit to capitalise.


Thats the truth.


I oppose .xxx as a TLD, and so does my company.


Just so we can be clear, are you implying that I

A: Have somthing to hide.
B: Do not run a legitamate business.
C: Sponsor Nefarious shit to capitalise.


The above statement treads some very dangerous ground. So I would appreciate it if you would take a moment to clarify or qualify this statement please. I would hate for anyone to get the wrong impression.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 07-02-2005 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mack
I oppose .xxx as a TLD, and so does my company.


Just so we can be clear, are you implying that I

A: Have somthing to hide.
B: Do not run a legitamate business.
C: Sponsor Nefarious shit to capitalise.


The above statement treads some very dangerous ground. So I would appreciate it if you would take a moment to clarify or qualify this statement please. I would hate for anyone to get the wrong impression.

BY no means means man , we just having a good discussion here :thumbsup

Far-L 07-02-2005 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ
Whats some sites I designed Far L?

Your the expert...


The question is really what sites have you designed that anyone would remember...

Or try and name one that is not completely derivative... you got me stumped there...

:1orglaugh

mardigras 07-03-2005 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ
Freedom of Speech still applies to this industry and Hollywood.

Keep telling yourself that lie. The words of Our current attorney General:

"I am strongly committed to ensuring the right of free speech," Gonzales said. "But obscene materials are not protected by the First Amendment, and I am committed to prosecuting these crimes aggressively."

What does the DOJ consider obscene? In one of their most recent convictions, these DVDs:

1 In The Pink, 1 In The Stink 5 (Red Light District), American Bukkake 7 and 8 (JM Productions); Cumshots 4 (Anabolic Video), Gangbang Angels 11 (Elegant Angel Productions) and Tits and Ass 8 (Devil's Films).

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 07-03-2005 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mardigras
Keep telling yourself that lie. The words of Our current attorney General:

"I am strongly committed to ensuring the right of free speech," Gonzales said. "But obscene materials are not protected by the First Amendment, and I am committed to prosecuting these crimes aggressively."

What does the DOJ consider obscene? In one of their most recent convictions, these DVDs:

1 In The Pink, 1 In The Stink 5 (Red Light District), American Bukkake 7 and 8 (JM Productions); Cumshots 4 (Anabolic Video), Gangbang Angels 11 (Elegant Angel Productions) and Tits and Ass 8 (Devil's Films).


OK, and who was guilty?

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 07-03-2005 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Far-L
The question is really what sites have you designed that anyone would remember...

Or try and name one that is not completely derivative... you got me stumped there...

:1orglaugh

Definatly not your site :1orglaugh
Woo its hot...

:1orglaugh :error :error

mardigras 07-03-2005 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ
OK, and who was guilty?

Edward J. Wedelstedt, and my error, he has been indicted on obscenity charges, but this is an actual example of what the DOJ is charging as obscenity. These DVDs are not the extreme rape and bondage type materials Extreme Associates was charged with, but are oral and anal sex compilations.

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Specifically named in the indictment are six videotapes and DVDs found by the grand jury to be obscene. These videos and DVDs can be generally described as hard-core pornography with patently offensive depictions of adults performing sexual conduct.

?These charges allege that the defendants ran a criminal enterprise that pandered obscene materials throughout the United States,? said Assistant Attorney General Christopher A. Wray of the Criminal Division. ?Effective use of law enforcement?s full arsenal is essential to stop purveyors of obscenity from distributing their offensive and degrading material.?
http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pr/2005/March/05_crm_120.htm

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 07-03-2005 04:30 PM

Again.
Who was guilty?

mardigras 07-03-2005 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ
Again.
Who was guilty?

Leroy Moore

Jesus Castillo

Redrob 07-03-2005 04:51 PM

They had him and his family on tax charges. He plead guilty to obscenity in a plea deal. When the Feds get your family on taxes, they have you by the balls.

Take a moment and read my previous thread for the inside scoop:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=464765

mardigras 07-03-2005 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Redrob
They had him and his family on tax charges. He plead guilty to obscenity in a plea deal. When the Feds get your family on taxes, they have you by the balls.

Take a moment and read my previous thread for the inside scoop:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=464765

Doesn't matter what you said previously. I was posting an example of what the DOJ considers chargable obscenity. There are currently 40 cases lined up, Mr. Wedelstedt is but one of them.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 07-03-2005 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mardigras

If your afraid of being convicted.

Why are you in this biz?
.XXX is irrelevant.

And your convictions are not very convincing.
Store owner's not Internet guys.
The closest ya got for that is Rob Black and nothing happened.

mardigras 07-03-2005 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ
If your afraid of being convicted.

Why are you in this biz?
.XXX is irrelevant.

And your convictions are not very convincing.
Store owner's not Internet guys.
The closest ya got for that is Rob Black and nothing happened.

Wow, if you want to take an ostrich/head/sand attitude toward the stated intentions of government officials and the very active lobbying groups assisting them in initiating an increasing number of proeecutions in local communities, so be it. I find that really weird. You must be either incredibly thick or someone with an ulterior stake in the outcome. :question

As far as your "Why are you in this biz?" shot, I am not "in this biz". I am simply a geek who loves building webpages and use this forum to keep up with what I should be doing on sections of my sites geared toward adults, interact with / learn from some cool brains, share info / debate iisssues and generally fuck off with other webmasters as the foum title states. :winkwink:

Rob 07-03-2005 09:36 PM

:thumbsup

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 07-03-2005 10:05 PM

Mardigras - Thats just fine bro, Just my opinion that if your freaked about the DOJ and obscinity issues it will not take .xxx to bust someone. It will take crazy content to do that.

"I am strongly committed to ensuring the right of free speech," Gonzales said. "But obscene materials are not protected by the First Amendment, and I am committed to prosecuting these crimes aggressively."

No reference to .xxx, no reference to relegating it anywhere. Just busting ass and failing is all that guy is going to do.

mardigras 07-03-2005 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ
it will not take .xxx to bust someone. It will take crazy content to do that.

Well if you consider "crazy content" to be oral/anal sex and girl/girl good luck with your buisiness model. :Oh crap

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 07-04-2005 12:03 AM

Well Mardigras truth is, that many towns and places throughout the world would have us hanged or shot on site.

Like I said, to be so worried about such things just comes with the territory.
Keep biz in order and go by the numbers. The limit is how much ya wanna risk.

Far-L 07-04-2005 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ
Well Mardigras truth is, that many towns and places throughout the world would have us hanged or shot on site.

Like I said, to be so worried about such things just comes with the territory.
Keep biz in order and go by the numbers. The limit is how much ya wanna risk.

Do you have any clue? You realize that as a designer you are bound by 2257 as well since you can be considered one that assembles content. Did you know that?

Have you talked to an attorney?

Have you been collecting documentation?

Go on preaching like you have some divine right to "tell it like it is". You don't have a clue but you did utter the first decently intelligible comment you have ever made... You are right. People should take these problems with the territory and be lawful and mindful.

Oh... ask your Daddy about how he would tell designers to try and emulate our crappy looking site that converted number one.

And btw...

You have not answered any questions I or anyone else has raised in your so called quest for meaningful discussion.

Nor have you seized any opportunity to show off what you have designed to counter my comments. You have been around long enough to learn how to piss with the big boys so you should know better...

You know what that makes you...

A clueless moron.

better add goofball to that.

:1orglaugh

mardigras 07-04-2005 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ
Like I said, to be so worried about such things

You erroneously assume that I "worry" about such things. I keep up with the everchanging landscape and adjust my sites accordingly. I am however concerned for fellow posters at these forums who are apparently unaware of certain activities and attempt to assemble information they should read. If after being shown such info they choose to ignore it, then it is no longer my concern.

As we babble on this board, the main group responsible for almost all complaints handled by the FCC in recent years has been following events with a microscope. They have generated over 50,000 obscenity complaints in every state of our country and are meeting with the attorney general this month to light a fire under his taking action on them. I'm not talking about "just some wackos", I'm talking about extremely well organized and funded people that have an excellent track record of getting results.

If you haven't read these 2 threads of information, I highly recommend that you (and anyone else who hasn't) do. Get to know the names of the players, you will be hearing much more from them in upcoming months.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=479170

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=486989

I can lead a horse to water but I can't force it through his clenched teeth. With that, I wish you a healthy and enjoyable 4th of July.

Xenophage 07-20-2005 11:56 PM

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