Methods To Hide Your US Citizenship From The Assholes Enforcing 2257. - GoFuckYourself.com

MyNameIsEmily · 06-26-2005, 05:04 AM

Allright, I've got:[*]UK hosting.[*]UK Address on Domain Registrar[*]EPassporte account[/list]
What else?

MyNameIsEmily · 06-26-2005, 05:11 AM

Hmmm... Merchant account?

DamageX · 06-26-2005, 05:39 AM

Best way to hide it is to no longer have it.

MyNameIsEmily · 06-26-2005, 05:58 AM

I think I'd have to LEAVE the us first before I can denounce my citizinshit.

BRISK · 06-26-2005, 06:36 AM

When the DOJ knocks on your door, just smile at them and say "I'm just a sexy girl"

DamageX · 06-26-2005, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by MyNameIsEmily

I think I'd have to LEAVE the us first before I can denounce my citizinshit.

So what's taking you so long?

tony286 · 06-26-2005, 07:16 AM

you cant hide because you have to pay taxes if you dont pay taxes then you get in real trouble

SomeCreep · 06-26-2005, 07:18 AM

scrape off your fingerprints

Va2k · 06-26-2005, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by tony404

you cant hide because you have to pay taxes if you don't pay taxes then you get in real trouble

I was thinking the same damn thing, I think I would rather get investigate for 2257 then taxes or have anything wrong with my taxes... Taxes scare me so much I take them to an accountant to make sure I'm 100% right on them..

I don't see the big deal with putting your freaking info up, shit I have two kids I have custody of and though the thought of someone finding me is weird it don't scare me off.. If ya can't play by the rules no matter how fucked up they are then its time to close shop go out either become a escort, or a burger flipper.. *shrugs*

Tom

reynold · 06-26-2005, 10:16 PM

Try having multiple identity...

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 06-26-2005, 10:18 PM

Don't post such things on boards that the DOJ monitors...DOH!!! - too late for you.

ADG Webmaster

wdsguy · 06-26-2005, 10:31 PM

your sig got owned.

pr0 · 06-26-2005, 10:34 PM

I suggest you all get into the arms business, i hear africa's hot right now.

Spunky · 06-26-2005, 10:35 PM

Move to Mexico

Big Red Machine · 06-26-2005, 10:43 PM

Marry a Canadian

broke · 06-26-2005, 10:52 PM

Why hide?

Do you think you're doing something wrong? Are you not willing to fight?

pornguy · 06-26-2005, 10:54 PM

I am in Mexico, and It wont really help that much. Mainly because of you have your office in the US , and dont have the papers, you are going to jail.

azguy · 06-26-2005, 11:05 PM

Or you can host in 20 other offshore locations

bhutocracy · 06-26-2005, 11:30 PM

If you're US, you need to be compliant. Moving offshore won't help you unless you actually physically leave and naturalise in another country.

DWB · 06-27-2005, 12:14 AM

You don't want to denounce your citizenship. That is a bad, bad, bad move.

You don't have to do that in order to not live here. Just not being in the US will probably be enough. They will not come and inspect you. That's not reality, regardless of what the arm chair lawyers at GFY will tell you. Go speak with an attorney who specializes in international law and let him set you straight. NOT a free speech attorney, but someone who does nothing but international law. It will be the best money you will ever spend and you will stop worrying about 2257.

Most in this industry can not see past what they don't understand and ONLY rely on free speech attorneys to tell them what is going to happen on an international level. Would you ask a tax attorney how to deal with a free speech issue or to help you with a divorce? No you would not. You would go to a specialist... the tax attorney. Do the same with international law.

If your going to denounce your citizenship to get out of paying taxes, the IRS can still tax you for up to 10 years if they think you are denouncing to avoid taxes. Uncle Sam owns you. There is no escape from taxes... you can only reduce your tax burden. There are a number of ways to do this and in the end you can pay close to nothing, but you will again need the help of a specialist to do this. DO NOT try to do this on your own.

Webby · 06-27-2005, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

If your going to denounce your citizenship to get out of paying taxes, the IRS can still tax you for up to 10 years if they think you are denouncing to avoid taxes. Uncle Sam owns you.

You serious DWB? :-) I never knew that!

Of course that's one of the reasons people leave their home country. Looks like the IRS just want to extend that departure and have claims.

Somehow I don't think that comes near the word "freedom" tho may be part of these "values" :-) No other country (apart from 4 weirdo or terrorist states) treat their citizens/wanna-be-ex-citizens this way.

As an aside.. and yes, - there is complaining about "immigrants" to the US, but there is also a degree of encouragement to move to the US simply because of tax revenue. In a lifetime/part-lifetime, the govt appreciate a lump of taxes :-) The more new tax-paying citizens the better!

DWB · 06-27-2005, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Webby

You serious DWB? :-) I never knew that!

Of course that's one of the reasons people leave their home country. Looks like the IRS just want to extend that departure and have claims.

Somehow I don't think that comes near the word "freedom" tho may be part of these "values" :-) No other country (apart from 4 weirdo or terrorist states) treat their citizens/wanna-be-ex-citizens this way.

As an aside.. and yes, - there is complaining about "immigrants" to the US, but there is also a degree of encouragement to move to the US simply because of tax revenue. In a lifetime/part-lifetime, the govt appreciate a lump of taxes :-) The more new tax-paying citizens the better!

Sure am. That doesn't mean that is going to happen, but they do have the right to tax you for up to 10 years if they think you are denouncing your citizen ship to avoid paying taxes. THEY OWN US. There are only a handful of countries in the world (2 or 3 if I remember correctly) that still tax there citizens when they don't live in the country. None of them except the USA pulls a stunt like that after you denounce you citizenship.

George Carlin has a great skit where he says the only real freedom we have today is if we want paper or plastic.

nofx · 06-27-2005, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by MyNameIsEmily

Allright, I've got:[*]UK hosting.[*]UK Address on Domain Registrar[*]EPassporte account[/list]
What else?

ROFL at your sig, bandwidth exceeded

DWB · 06-27-2005, 12:56 AM

To add....

I don't understand why they continue to tax us if we work and live abroad. We don't use anything in the country. Nothing. So why should would pay for anything in it?

It's a load of shit if you ask me. The best thing to do is get as slick as you can with it without breaking the law and lower your tax burden as much as you can. There is a reason the USA's wealthiest people use offshore methods, corporations and banking. You can be very creative with it and still be legal.

pornguy · 06-27-2005, 01:00 AM

If your money is made abroad, then don't claim it!
Put it in an offshore bank and the US will never know about it.
Get new accounts with all the sponsors, this time under your abroad address, that way you don't need to put a social sec. number

NTSS · 06-27-2005, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DamageX

Best way to hide it is to no longer have it.

I would have to agree with this one.....

Dirty Dane · 06-27-2005, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by MyNameIsEmily

What else?

Translate your websites into Arabic. And use an online translator, so they can't translate it back

azguy · 06-27-2005, 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane

Translate your websites into Arabic. And use an online translator, so they can't translate it back

Webby · 06-27-2005, 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

Sure am. That doesn't mean that is going to happen, but they do have the right to tax you for up to 10 years if they think you are denouncing your citizen ship to avoid paying taxes. THEY OWN US. There are only a handful of countries in the world (2 or 3 if I remember correctly) that still tax there citizens when they don't live in the country. None of them except the USA pulls a stunt like that after you denounce you citizenship.

George Carlin has a great skit where he says the only real freedom we have today is if we want paper or plastic.

Sheesh.. never thought it was a never-ending chase for taxes.

I remember one US guy who ended up living in South Africa for decades. Some of his best friends worked at the US Embassy in SA and they chatted regularly.

One day they decided to take the new members of the family to meet the remaining one's and flew back to the US for a vacation. The moment the plane landed this old guy was arrested and thrown in jail re "tax evasion".

Turns out his "friends" in the Embassy pre-warned of his US visit and the flight details :-) Real nice to have friends like that!!! :-)

azguy · 06-27-2005, 01:23 AM

The best way is to legally reduce your taxes. Anything else is not worth the risk. Jail is full of lazy people

MyNameIsEmily · 06-29-2005, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BRISK

When the DOJ knocks on your door, just smile at them and say "I'm just a sexy girl"

I'll just tell em I'm a model (yea right) and narc out my boyfriend (if applicable) as a producer.

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tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	you cant hide because you have to pay taxes if you dont pay taxes then you get in real trouble

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bhutocracy Not making A Comeback Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 10,218	If you're US, you need to be compliant. Moving offshore won't help you unless you actually physically leave and naturalise in another country.

06-27-2005, 12:14 AM	#20
DWB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Encrypted. Access denied. Posts: 31,779	You don't want to denounce your citizenship. That is a bad, bad, bad move. You don't have to do that in order to not live here. Just not being in the US will probably be enough. They will not come and inspect you. That's not reality, regardless of what the arm chair lawyers at GFY will tell you. Go speak with an attorney who specializes in international law and let him set you straight. NOT a free speech attorney, but someone who does nothing but international law. It will be the best money you will ever spend and you will stop worrying about 2257. Most in this industry can not see past what they don't understand and ONLY rely on free speech attorneys to tell them what is going to happen on an international level. Would you ask a tax attorney how to deal with a free speech issue or to help you with a divorce? No you would not. You would go to a specialist... the tax attorney. Do the same with international law. If your going to denounce your citizenship to get out of paying taxes, the IRS can still tax you for up to 10 years if they think you are denouncing to avoid taxes. Uncle Sam owns you. There is no escape from taxes... you can only reduce your tax burden. There are a number of ways to do this and in the end you can pay close to nothing, but you will again need the help of a specialist to do this. DO NOT try to do this on your own.

06-27-2005, 12:56 AM	#24
DWB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Encrypted. Access denied. Posts: 31,779	To add.... I don't understand why they continue to tax us if we work and live abroad. We don't use anything in the country. Nothing. So why should would pay for anything in it? It's a load of shit if you ask me. The best thing to do is get as slick as you can with it without breaking the law and lower your tax burden as much as you can. There is a reason the USA's wealthiest people use offshore methods, corporations and banking. You can be very creative with it and still be legal.

06-27-2005, 01:00 AM	#25
pornguy Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Homeless Posts: 62,911	If your money is made abroad, then don't claim it! Put it in an offshore bank and the US will never know about it. Get new accounts with all the sponsors, this time under your abroad address, that way you don't need to put a social sec. number __________________ PornGuy skype me pornguy_epic AmateurDough The Hottes Shemales online! TChicks.com \| Angeles Cid \| Mariana Cordoba \| MAILERS WELCOME!

06-27-2005, 01:23 AM	#30
azguy Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 5,167	The best way is to legally reduce your taxes. Anything else is not worth the risk. Jail is full of lazy people