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MyNameIsEmily 06-26-2005 05:04 AM

Methods To Hide Your US Citizenship From The Assholes Enforcing 2257.
 
Allright, I've got:[*]UK hosting.[*]UK Address on Domain Registrar[*]EPassporte account[/list]
What else?

MyNameIsEmily 06-26-2005 05:11 AM

Hmmm... Merchant account?

DamageX 06-26-2005 05:39 AM

Best way to hide it is to no longer have it.

MyNameIsEmily 06-26-2005 05:58 AM

I think I'd have to LEAVE the us first before I can denounce my citizinshit.

BRISK 06-26-2005 06:36 AM

When the DOJ knocks on your door, just smile at them and say "I'm just a sexy girl"

DamageX 06-26-2005 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MyNameIsEmily
I think I'd have to LEAVE the us first before I can denounce my citizinshit.

So what's taking you so long? :)

tony286 06-26-2005 07:16 AM

you cant hide because you have to pay taxes if you dont pay taxes then you get in real trouble

SomeCreep 06-26-2005 07:18 AM

scrape off your fingerprints

Va2k 06-26-2005 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404
you cant hide because you have to pay taxes if you don't pay taxes then you get in real trouble

I was thinking the same damn thing, I think I would rather get investigate for 2257 then taxes or have anything wrong with my taxes... Taxes scare me so much I take them to an accountant to make sure I'm 100% right on them..

I don't see the big deal with putting your freaking info up, shit I have two kids I have custody of and though the thought of someone finding me is weird it don't scare me off.. If ya can't play by the rules no matter how fucked up they are then its time to close shop go out either become a escort, or a burger flipper.. *shrugs* :2 cents:
Tom

reynold 06-26-2005 10:16 PM

Try having multiple identity... :thumbsup

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 06-26-2005 10:18 PM

Don't post such things on boards that the DOJ monitors...DOH!!! - too late for you.

ADG Webmaster

wdsguy 06-26-2005 10:31 PM

your sig got owned.

pr0 06-26-2005 10:34 PM

I suggest you all get into the arms business, i hear africa's hot right now.

Spunky 06-26-2005 10:35 PM

Move to Mexico

Big Red Machine 06-26-2005 10:43 PM

Marry a Canadian

broke 06-26-2005 10:52 PM

Why hide?

Do you think you're doing something wrong? Are you not willing to fight?

pornguy 06-26-2005 10:54 PM

I am in Mexico, and It wont really help that much. Mainly because of you have your office in the US , and dont have the papers, you are going to jail.

azguy 06-26-2005 11:05 PM

Or you can host in 20 other offshore locations

bhutocracy 06-26-2005 11:30 PM

If you're US, you need to be compliant. Moving offshore won't help you unless you actually physically leave and naturalise in another country.

DWB 06-27-2005 12:14 AM

You don't want to denounce your citizenship. That is a bad, bad, bad move.

You don't have to do that in order to not live here. Just not being in the US will probably be enough. They will not come and inspect you. That's not reality, regardless of what the arm chair lawyers at GFY will tell you. Go speak with an attorney who specializes in international law and let him set you straight. NOT a free speech attorney, but someone who does nothing but international law. It will be the best money you will ever spend and you will stop worrying about 2257.

Most in this industry can not see past what they don't understand and ONLY rely on free speech attorneys to tell them what is going to happen on an international level. Would you ask a tax attorney how to deal with a free speech issue or to help you with a divorce? No you would not. You would go to a specialist... the tax attorney. Do the same with international law.

If your going to denounce your citizenship to get out of paying taxes, the IRS can still tax you for up to 10 years if they think you are denouncing to avoid taxes. Uncle Sam owns you. There is no escape from taxes... you can only reduce your tax burden. There are a number of ways to do this and in the end you can pay close to nothing, but you will again need the help of a specialist to do this. DO NOT try to do this on your own.

Webby 06-27-2005 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

If your going to denounce your citizenship to get out of paying taxes, the IRS can still tax you for up to 10 years if they think you are denouncing to avoid taxes. Uncle Sam owns you.

You serious DWB? :-) I never knew that!

Of course that's one of the reasons people leave their home country. Looks like the IRS just want to extend that departure and have claims.

Somehow I don't think that comes near the word "freedom" tho may be part of these "values" :-) No other country (apart from 4 weirdo or terrorist states) treat their citizens/wanna-be-ex-citizens this way.

As an aside.. and yes, - there is complaining about "immigrants" to the US, but there is also a degree of encouragement to move to the US simply because of tax revenue. In a lifetime/part-lifetime, the govt appreciate a lump of taxes :-) The more new tax-paying citizens the better!

DWB 06-27-2005 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Webby
You serious DWB? :-) I never knew that!

Of course that's one of the reasons people leave their home country. Looks like the IRS just want to extend that departure and have claims.

Somehow I don't think that comes near the word "freedom" tho may be part of these "values" :-) No other country (apart from 4 weirdo or terrorist states) treat their citizens/wanna-be-ex-citizens this way.

As an aside.. and yes, - there is complaining about "immigrants" to the US, but there is also a degree of encouragement to move to the US simply because of tax revenue. In a lifetime/part-lifetime, the govt appreciate a lump of taxes :-) The more new tax-paying citizens the better!

Sure am. That doesn't mean that is going to happen, but they do have the right to tax you for up to 10 years if they think you are denouncing your citizen ship to avoid paying taxes. THEY OWN US. There are only a handful of countries in the world (2 or 3 if I remember correctly) that still tax there citizens when they don't live in the country. None of them except the USA pulls a stunt like that after you denounce you citizenship.

George Carlin has a great skit where he says the only real freedom we have today is if we want paper or plastic. :1orglaugh

nofx 06-27-2005 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MyNameIsEmily
Allright, I've got:[*]UK hosting.[*]UK Address on Domain Registrar[*]EPassporte account[/list]
What else?

ROFL at your sig, bandwidth exceeded

DWB 06-27-2005 12:56 AM

To add....

I don't understand why they continue to tax us if we work and live abroad. We don't use anything in the country. Nothing. So why should would pay for anything in it?

It's a load of shit if you ask me. The best thing to do is get as slick as you can with it without breaking the law and lower your tax burden as much as you can. There is a reason the USA's wealthiest people use offshore methods, corporations and banking. You can be very creative with it and still be legal.

pornguy 06-27-2005 01:00 AM

If your money is made abroad, then don't claim it!
Put it in an offshore bank and the US will never know about it.
Get new accounts with all the sponsors, this time under your abroad address, that way you don't need to put a social sec. number

NTSS 06-27-2005 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX
Best way to hide it is to no longer have it.

I would have to agree with this one..... :1orglaugh

Dirty Dane 06-27-2005 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MyNameIsEmily
What else?

Translate your websites into Arabic. And use an online translator, so they can't translate it back :1orglaugh

azguy 06-27-2005 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane
Translate your websites into Arabic. And use an online translator, so they can't translate it back :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh

Webby 06-27-2005 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
Sure am. That doesn't mean that is going to happen, but they do have the right to tax you for up to 10 years if they think you are denouncing your citizen ship to avoid paying taxes. THEY OWN US. There are only a handful of countries in the world (2 or 3 if I remember correctly) that still tax there citizens when they don't live in the country. None of them except the USA pulls a stunt like that after you denounce you citizenship.

George Carlin has a great skit where he says the only real freedom we have today is if we want paper or plastic. :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh Sheesh.. never thought it was a never-ending chase for taxes.

I remember one US guy who ended up living in South Africa for decades. Some of his best friends worked at the US Embassy in SA and they chatted regularly.

One day they decided to take the new members of the family to meet the remaining one's and flew back to the US for a vacation. The moment the plane landed this old guy was arrested and thrown in jail re "tax evasion".

Turns out his "friends" in the Embassy pre-warned of his US visit and the flight details :-) Real nice to have friends like that!!! :-)

azguy 06-27-2005 01:23 AM

The best way is to legally reduce your taxes. Anything else is not worth the risk. Jail is full of lazy people

MyNameIsEmily 06-29-2005 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BRISK
When the DOJ knocks on your door, just smile at them and say "I'm just a sexy girl"

I'll just tell em I'm a model (yea right) and narc out my boyfriend (if applicable) as a producer.


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