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Old 06-26-2005, 04:14 PM   #1
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Oc Cash Rocks

Today I have 3 sales from OC Cash, my traffic is converting at a current ratio of 1/83. For the month 1/657.

Thanks guys!!!
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Old 06-26-2005, 06:13 PM   #2
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They convert awesome but let us know when you see the rebills and if you are still psyched.
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Old 06-26-2005, 06:15 PM   #3
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Today I have 3 sales from OC Cash, my traffic is converting at a current ratio of 1/83. For the month 1/657.

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what site you pushing?

was thinking about trying myfirstpornscene
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no they dont
plus they dont rebill
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Old 06-26-2005, 06:31 PM   #5
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what site you pushing?

was thinking about trying myfirstpornscene
I got the signups on all different sites. One was MyFirstPornScene, one was BrazilBang and the last one was Thugs and Juggs.

I'll have to keep my eyes on the rebills.
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Old 06-26-2005, 06:33 PM   #6
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i think they look like good sites... why don't they re-bill for you?

maybe give them suggestions as to what they could do to help make more money for you. i don't think affiliates speak up enough to the sponsors and are too quick to drop them without trying to fix the problem.
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Old 06-26-2005, 06:34 PM   #7
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Old 06-26-2005, 06:44 PM   #8
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i think they look like good sites... why don't they re-bill for you?

maybe give them suggestions as to what they could do to help make more money for you. i don't think affiliates speak up enough to the sponsors and are too quick to drop them without trying to fix the problem.
I did not drop them but the rebill is weak. notr sure if they do it but they need to let people access every site with their membership.
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Old 06-26-2005, 06:53 PM   #9
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couldn;t do any sales with them
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I see plenty of trial sales and hardly and rebills. Next!
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They convert awesome but let us know when you see the rebills and if you are still psyched.
We are constantly working on increasing the rebills and trial to fulls. Just 2 weeks ago we made it so if you join 1 site you get full access to that site and the rest of the sites are an upsell. It increased rebills by 10%. Now we are putting everything in a CMS with a slicker members area. We are expecting another 10% with that.

We avoided "the only 2 clips" limited trials that some programs are using to get the trial to full up to 40%-50% becasue, it is my opinion, that while you may get 40%-50% to convert to full -- you pissed off the other 50%-60% and they will never join your site again. We look at the long term.



Remember, you can always push with the non-trial option if you are not happy with the trial to full.
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Old 06-26-2005, 08:21 PM   #12
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what site you pushing?

was thinking about trying myfirstpornscene
Best ones are:

Thugs and Juggs, Brazil Bang, and Phatbooty Hoes. We just redid the tour of Kung Pao Pussy and it is back kicking ass again.
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Old 06-26-2005, 08:42 PM   #13
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Old 06-26-2005, 08:48 PM   #14
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TurboTrucker & Martin.

Please give me your affiliate ID's, I want to take a look into your account and make sure there are no problems.

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Old 06-26-2005, 08:49 PM   #15
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1:297 some of that is TGP traffic mixed in. pretty damn good
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Old 06-26-2005, 08:58 PM   #16
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Please give me your affiliate ID's, I want to take a look into your account and make sure there are no problems.

Thanks.
We couldn't be doing that badly - we place solidly in the top 10 for hoes.com every month:

http://www.hoes.com/sponsors/2004.html - best of 2004 #4

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Old 06-26-2005, 09:00 PM   #17
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couldn;t do any sales with them

Martin, trying to find you bro... whats your ID with us?
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Hey man, Chris here from occash... Hit me up and lets discuss what we can do to improve things for you. I can change your mind and money if I know whats going on.

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Old 06-26-2005, 09:05 PM   #19
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Today I have 3 sales from OC Cash, my traffic is converting at a current ratio of 1/83. For the month 1/657.

Thanks guys!!!

Too bad not PPS
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sheeit... more like top FIVE!!!
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Too bad not PPS
These stats are ranked by $$$/Unique, so pps is really makes no difference.
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Old 06-26-2005, 09:58 PM   #22
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I haven't sent very many hits but I thought I would do a little better.

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I haven't sent very many hits but I thought I would do a little better.
Hey man - I checked out http://www.pornpackages.com - that is a very cool site. What is your traffic source? You can email me [email protected] if you don't want to post publicly. We some SE traffic that site would kill.

BTW http://www.pornpackages.com - sets off my Macafee and says there is a trojan trying to download.

Are you usig a counter or anything that might be doing that?
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Thanks. I have a stat counter on it. I don't have much traffic right now, I was trying Adwords but it seems I can only break even on Adwords costs. I haven't really tried any other traffic, I get a little from my TGP but it's pretty much dead. Anyway I make my money off mainstream so this is mostly just a hobby for me.
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Thanks. I have a stat counter on it. I don't have much traffic right now, I was trying Adwords but it seems I can only break even on Adwords costs. I haven't really tried any other traffic, I get a little from my TGP but it's pretty much dead. Anyway I make my money off mainstream so this is mostly just a hobby for me.
When I buy adwords I just skip the middle page and send it straight to the sponsor - a PPS on preferably.
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Is this iframe there intentionally?

<iframe src=http://www.inestco.com frameborder="0" width="1" height="1" scrolling="no" name=counter></iframe>

on - http://www.pornpackages.com
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Is this iframe there intentionally?

<iframe src=http://www.inestco.com frameborder="0" width="1" height="1" scrolling="no" name=counter></iframe>

on - http://www.pornpackages.com
I think that is the counter.
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And looking at the current month, I'd say OC Cash will again be one of my top performers. One of my favorite new programs.

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Thanks. I have a stat counter on it. I don't have much traffic right now, I was trying Adwords but it seems I can only break even on Adwords costs. I haven't really tried any other traffic, I get a little from my TGP but it's pretty much dead. Anyway I make my money off mainstream so this is mostly just a hobby for me.
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i just put up some links for thugs and jugs will see how they do.
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We are constantly working on increasing the rebills and trial to fulls. Just 2 weeks ago we made it so if you join 1 site you get full access to that site and the rest of the sites are an upsell. It increased rebills by 10%. Now we are putting everything in a CMS with a slicker members area. We are expecting another 10% with that.

We avoided "the only 2 clips" limited trials that some programs are using to get the trial to full up to 40%-50% becasue, it is my opinion, that while you may get 40%-50% to convert to full -- you pissed off the other 50%-60% and they will never join your site again. We look at the long term.



Remember, you can always push with the non-trial option if you are not happy with the trial to full.

Way to go Jay. Doing a stats remote of the last 2 weeks looks like I can see the change. Do they access the other sites or you just offer them to buy it? You might want to consider the lightspeed or nastydollars model and see if rebills go nuts.
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i just went over some stats from an old blog site i had banners on

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They are a great company! I really enjoy doing business with them, they are awesome!
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Occash is one of my BEST sponsors. I'll make a killing IF they served the $30-$35 PPS. But the reason I push them so hard is because I needed a HEAVY hitting sponsors where I can stack rebills. Now, the question I have for the occash reps is uhhmmmmm, we do get paid for monthly rebills (60% cut) as long as the surfer we send stays a member?

I'm kinda sidetracked with these aforementioned comments about rebills...
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Occash is one of my BEST sponsors. I'll make a killing IF they served the $30-$35 PPS. But the reason I push them so hard is because I needed a HEAVY hitting sponsors where I can stack rebills. Now, the question I have for the occash reps is uhhmmmmm, we do get paid for monthly rebills (60% cut) as long as the surfer we send stays a member?

I'm kinda sidetracked with these aforementioned comments about rebills...
i think its 60% of the initial, 50% recurring.
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Good sites overall but they load slow as hell [for me].
Are they slow for anyone else? if this is the case, we spent a lot of money to get them as fast as possible.
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Way to go Jay. Doing a stats remote of the last 2 weeks looks like I can see the change. Do they access the other sites or you just offer them to buy it? You might want to consider the lightspeed or nastydollars model and see if rebills go nuts.
Actually, giving members access to everything wound up to not work out so well. They were downloading everything they could and canceling before the 2 day trials ended.

We changed to the limited trials and saw a 10% jump from trial to full -- which is half the battle when it comes to rebills, once we get the cheap ass trial hoppers off the trials and on the mothly -- we tend to keep them. We've looked at enough data now to know this was the right move.

Once we get the V2 members area done, only DRMed content will be downloadable, so we will have no more raping and pillaging for $2.95.

We update weekly and we have one of the best exclusive content deal anyone in the industry has. The sites you see now are only the tip of the iceberg.

If you are an affiliate of OCCash and want to take a peek at the members area, send me an email to [email protected] and I will set you up with a password for a few days -- then you can make money, see the we have kick ass members areas, and punch the clown all in one fell swoop.
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I found this shit on my site

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I did NOT put it there. I'm not sure what it is but it's been removed.
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I found this shit on my site

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I did NOT put it there. I'm not sure what it is but it's been removed.
I've had people hack TGP scripts and put shit in, but never a server. If true, that's pretty crazy.
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it is my opinion, that while you may get 40%-50% to convert to full -- you pissed off the other 50%-60% and they will never join your site again. We look at the long term.
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only DRMed content will be downloadable, so we will have no more raping and pillaging for $2.95.
You say you're looking at the long term, but IMO, DRMing your content will piss off your members more than anything.

Edit: btw, is only the content in your trial section DRMed? Or is all the downloadable content DRMed, including the content for monthly members?
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You say you're looking at the long term, but IMO, DRMing your content will piss off your members more than anything.

Edit: btw, is only the content in your trial section DRMed? Or is all the downloadable content DRMed, including the content for monthly members?
FYI: Nothing is DRM'ed. In the future, the downloadable stuff may be -- that is only if it can work for us.

OCCash likes a happy surfer!

I know hat is strange.

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Old 06-28-2005, 03:25 AM   #49
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DRM does not work - it pisses members off in a big way.
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Old 06-28-2005, 04:20 AM   #50
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We are constantly working on increasing the rebills and trial to fulls. Just 2 weeks ago we made it so if you join 1 site you get full access to that site and the rest of the sites are an upsell. It increased rebills by 10%. Now we are putting everything in a CMS with a slicker members area. We are expecting another 10% with that.

We avoided "the only 2 clips" limited trials that some programs are using to get the trial to full up to 40%-50% becasue, it is my opinion, that while you may get 40%-50% to convert to full -- you pissed off the other 50%-60% and they will never join your site again. We look at the long term.



Remember, you can always push with the non-trial option if you are not happy with the trial to full.
intresting point about the limited trials, but it's not like the webmaster who sends you the trial in the first place is going to get credit if the surfer decides to join up later
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