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biskoppen · 06-14-2005, 05:00 AM

What are people (we) supposed to do with the 1000s of old galleries with no-doc hardcore content?.. There are no way in a million years that can be fixed

Will CCBILL etc. ban our asses because of these galleries?

the real magoo · 06-14-2005, 05:03 AM

Relax, it´s only five years in jail.

rockbear · 06-14-2005, 05:03 AM

I'm deleting all my galleries this week

Nicky · 06-14-2005, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by the real magoo

Relax, it´s only five years in jail.

urgh

bigdog · 06-14-2005, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by the real magoo

Relax, it´s only five years in jail.

hopefully he doesn't have a pretty mouth

biskoppen · 06-14-2005, 05:10 AM

Do we have anyone serious who can answer?

biskoppen · 06-14-2005, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by bigdog

hopefully he doesn't have a pretty mouth

In fact, I'm known for my inmate cock sucking skills

BillPMB · 06-14-2005, 05:23 AM

If docs aren't available for galleries subject to 2257 inspection due to their content then you'd probably be cautious to delete them prior to the June 23rd effective date.

Otherwise, if the regulation stands as written you'd be subject to inspection, and if you can't produce the documentation you could most certainly be charged the way the regulation is written and posted right now on the federal register.

Less free hardcore would be good for sales anyway. I've been saying that for 10 years.

the real magoo · 06-14-2005, 05:31 AM

Lets see..there are 10 billion webpages at google right now..wonder how long it will take before they find out about your porngalleries.. my guess is never.

Sarah_Jayne · 06-14-2005, 05:53 AM

I took mine down..I figured a blacklisting wasn't as much a worry as jail time. though, I don't do many galleries these days so it isn't such a big deal to me.

biskoppen · 06-14-2005, 11:12 AM

<< Otherwise, if the regulation stands as written you'd be subject to inspection, << and if you can't produce the documentation you could most certainly be << charged the way the regulation is written and posted right now on the federal register.

Well, I live in Denmark .. so I guess they can't do shit... well, they can probably have my servers shut down, but those can be moved over-seas..

<< Less free hardcore would be good for sales anyway. I've been saying that for 10 years.

I agree 100% on that one

More Booze · 06-14-2005, 12:13 PM

I will let my old galleries be left on my server... I dont care about US silly 2257 law.

Alex · 06-14-2005, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by More Booze

I will let my old galleries be left on my server... I dont care about US silly 2257 law.

Do you live in the U.S

More Booze · 06-14-2005, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

Do you live in the U.S

well, porn is a crime now its kinda unfair, if it were up to the antis wed all get the chair. i support a kid and wife so i can't be looking at fifteen to life.
i keep my ops smart and they don't give me credit, if they wanna bust me then they will regret it, my shits locked like schlage
money in the bank from paris to prague.
i use fake names fake identities, i got a couple hideouts with all the amenities
they call me john smith look me up in the phone book, my number rings busy cause its never on the hook.
genius with the bucks - donut fux. youd be commiting suicide like a black with the klux.

Nah, im not from the US, I would be out of the adult biz. for a long time if I was. :P

stickyd · 06-16-2005, 04:44 AM

It seems to me there're no worries if you live outside the U.S., as the law cannot reach you. However, it also comes down to the content producers who are starting to tell everyone to remove the hard content or replace it with soft, and if you don't comply, your account will be cancelled. It's funny to me that many producers, such as Karups and Lightspeed, are not allowing ANYONE to continue to promote with hard content, since non-u.s. based Webmasters could still do so without violating the new reg.

We're restructuring our affiliate program to have zipped soft and hard content, so there will be a choice for American and non-U.S. based Webmasters. I don't know how the soft versus hard galleies will convert, but I'm thinking it will probably be a nice edge for European Webmasters. And is that unfair? Look what country passed the law...

Paparazzi · 06-16-2005, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by the real magoo

Relax, it´s only five years in jail.

if you are located in the us yes.

No need to worry about the jail biskoppen as you are located in Denmark

beta-tester · 06-16-2005, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by stickyd

It seems to me there're no worries if you live outside the U.S., as the law cannot reach you. However, it also comes down to the content producers who are starting to tell everyone to remove the hard content or replace it with soft, and if you don't comply, your account will be cancelled. It's funny to me that many producers, such as Karups and Lightspeed, are not allowing ANYONE to continue to promote with hard content, since non-u.s. based Webmasters could still do so without violating the new reg.

We're restructuring our affiliate program to have zipped soft and hard content, so there will be a choice for American and non-U.S. based Webmasters. I don't know how the soft versus hard galleies will convert, but I'm thinking it will probably be a nice edge for European Webmasters. And is that unfair? Look what country passed the law...

I agree with you at all. I don't understand why some big content providers will start offering only softcore content when there will be still many non-US people who can promote hardcore w/o any problems. I hate fucking stupid American laws, fucking 2257 will kill adult biz. very much, but be sure non-US people will give all their best to keep things going on ;)
btw. My suggestion to every content provider from USA is to keep its hardcore content, so we (non-US ppl) can still use it and promote sites!

I hope there will be still some hardcore shit for promoting after 23th . huh...

Paparazzi · 06-16-2005, 06:59 AM

Biskoppen, I would contact the sponsors you use/used and ask them about it. Tell them you're not in the us, about your old galleries and the current situation etc. If they tell you to delete them or they will delete your account, I guess you have no choice. Be sure to contact the tgp owners etc and just make em blank with no 404 redirect. I feel sorry for the US webmasters, but It also sucks when non US webmasters gets punished this way about this US law

Hank_Heartland · 06-16-2005, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by More Booze

I will let my old galleries be left on my server... I dont care about US silly 2257 law.

If you live in a country with reciprocal agreements with the US they can still get you

Jakke PNG · 06-16-2005, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Hank_Heartland

If you live in a country with reciprocal agreements with the US they can still get you

No they can't.
2257 most likely violates privacy laws in some countries which have a reciprocal agreement with US. Gee.. let me think, should I comply with 2257 and give out ID's to everyone (or remove hardcore)..or should I comply with my local laws

Guess which I'll choose.

Violetta · 06-16-2005, 07:08 AM

2257

Hank_Heartland · 06-16-2005, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by TeenGodFather

No they can't.
2257 most likely violates privacy laws in some countries which have a reciprocal agreement with US. Gee.. let me think, should I comply with 2257 and give out ID's to everyone (or remove hardcore)..or should I comply with my local laws

Guess which I'll choose.

I would think it would violate privacy laws here in the US as well

But under guise of the 'War of Terrorism" we must have given all that up

Bear · 06-16-2005, 10:51 AM

Even I am not from US, I already move all my stuffs out of US servers. There are tons of good hosting company around the world. It's not worth to take the risk. I will sure keep my hardcore FHG in the server.

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BillPMB Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 147	If docs aren't available for galleries subject to 2257 inspection due to their content then you'd probably be cautious to delete them prior to the June 23rd effective date. Otherwise, if the regulation stands as written you'd be subject to inspection, and if you can't produce the documentation you could most certainly be charged the way the regulation is written and posted right now on the federal register. Less free hardcore would be good for sales anyway. I've been saying that for 10 years. __________________ PornMegabucks

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biskoppen Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Very small penis Posts: 5,809	<< Otherwise, if the regulation stands as written you'd be subject to inspection, << and if you can't produce the documentation you could most certainly be << charged the way the regulation is written and posted right now on the federal register. Well, I live in Denmark .. so I guess they can't do shit... well, they can probably have my servers shut down, but those can be moved over-seas.. << Less free hardcore would be good for sales anyway. I've been saying that for 10 years. I agree 100% on that one __________________ Submit my videos to make bank, tons of 5 minute videos offered right here

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stickyd Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Prague Posts: 116	It seems to me there're no worries if you live outside the U.S., as the law cannot reach you. However, it also comes down to the content producers who are starting to tell everyone to remove the hard content or replace it with soft, and if you don't comply, your account will be cancelled. It's funny to me that many producers, such as Karups and Lightspeed, are not allowing ANYONE to continue to promote with hard content, since non-u.s. based Webmasters could still do so without violating the new reg. We're restructuring our affiliate program to have zipped soft and hard content, so there will be a choice for American and non-U.S. based Webmasters. I don't know how the soft versus hard galleies will convert, but I'm thinking it will probably be a nice edge for European Webmasters. And is that unfair? Look what country passed the law... __________________ Encrypt any post, message or document: Facebook, Twitter, ICQ, GFY, Gmail, Yahoo, LinkedIn, Skydrive, Dropbox, USB drives etc. etc. etc. etc. FREE! The highest level of encryption allowed by law. SCRAMBLS.

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the real magoo So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: EU Posts: 1,637	Relax, it´s only five years in jail.

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rockbear Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 806	I'm deleting all my galleries this week

06-14-2005, 05:31 AM	#9
the real magoo So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: EU Posts: 1,637	Lets see..there are 10 billion webpages at google right now..wonder how long it will take before they find out about your porngalleries.. my guess is never.

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Sarah_Jayne Now with more Jayne Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 40,077	I took mine down..I figured a blacklisting wasn't as much a worry as jail time. though, I don't do many galleries these days so it isn't such a big deal to me.

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More Booze Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 5,116	I will let my old galleries be left on my server... I dont care about US silly 2257 law.

06-16-2005, 06:59 AM	#18
Paparazzi Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 3,488	Biskoppen, I would contact the sponsors you use/used and ask them about it. Tell them you're not in the us, about your old galleries and the current situation etc. If they tell you to delete them or they will delete your account, I guess you have no choice. Be sure to contact the tgp owners etc and just make em blank with no 404 redirect. I feel sorry for the US webmasters, but It also sucks when non US webmasters gets punished this way about this US law __________________ Pure Level(3) Premium Bandwidth When Quality Counts

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Bear Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 261	Even I am not from US, I already move all my stuffs out of US servers. There are tons of good hosting company around the world. It's not worth to take the risk. I will sure keep my hardcore FHG in the server.