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Old 06-09-2005, 07:49 PM   #1
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you complying fuckers are a bunch of PUSSIES

you know what? i'm sick of this shit. what the fuck ever happened to peaceful protest? what happened to standing up for your rights? every day i'm reading posts about "we have to abide by the law"... cats with LOADS OF CASH scared to go to court. larry flynt & luther campbell would roll in their graves if they were dead. if anything, you cat's with the big bucks should be saying "FUCK YOU... I DO WHAT THE FUCK I WANT CUZ I GOT MONEY!!!"

ok, warn your affiliates & get them outta hot water but for god's sakes stop putting yer fucking tail between yer legs. LAWS THAT ARE WRONG ARE MEANT TO BE BROKEN.





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Excellent. Its great to hear that you'll be donating money towards the cause.
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well atleast its been established you are broke
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the big boys can afford the lawyers, but us small-fries cant. it would be nice if more of an effort were made to fight this stuff
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Old 06-09-2005, 07:53 PM   #6
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Excellent. Its great to hear that you'll be donating money towards the cause.

i'm a member of the FSC & my attorney is aware of the situation. that's all i need 4 now.



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well atleast its been established you are broke

its also now been established that u r a presumptuous fool - thanks!


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i'm a member of the FSC & my attorney is aware of the situation. that's all i need 4 now.



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That is a good start for sure..reccomend that for everybody
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You can't fight if your ass is in jail

Neither Larry Flynt or Luke are in jail (yet)....so where are they?

Complying and then fighting
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Old 06-09-2005, 07:58 PM   #11
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You can't fight if your ass is in jail

Neither Larry Flynt or Luke are in jail (yet)....so where are they?

Complying and then fighting

dumbass... have u ever heard of bail? u don't have to be in jail until you are convicted. both luther campbell & larry flynt didn't comply with DICK. they said FUCK YOU, took it to court & WON.



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the big boys can afford the lawyers, but us small-fries cant. it would be nice if more of an effort were made to fight this stuff
The FSC that everyone is giving money to is very quiet right now. At the very least they should be giving people (who support them) a play by play on this. The last update on their site was MAY 25th.

Don't get me wrong, I know they are working on it but damn... talk to us. It's our asses that are on the line.
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I shat on my keyboard today. So I was vaccuming my keyboard to remove the dried up man juice of my past expeditions into trannybooth.com. I was playing with different settings on the cleaner, and noticed how it produced keystrokes when it was blowing. It made me wonder - was my own fart strong enough to type something? Being the experimenting type, I went ahead and pulled down my pants, positioned my ass right above the keyboard and let out a thunderous one. Turned out my bowel had decieved me, for along with the gas came hot chunks of shit. My computer started beeping like crazy as a huge log pressed down on the function keys. My keyboard went friggin shit-brown. There it was, a steaming turd right across my home row. I had to use fucking motor oil to clean away the fecal matter. I don't know what I'm going to tell my sister when she finds out the keyboard smells like crap.
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I shat on my keyboard today. So I was vaccuming my keyboard to remove the dried up man juice of my past expeditions into trannybooth.com. I was playing with different settings on the cleaner, and noticed how it produced keystrokes when it was blowing. It made me wonder - was my own fart strong enough to type something? Being the experimenting type, I went ahead and pulled down my pants, positioned my ass right above the keyboard and let out a thunderous one. Turned out my bowel had decieved me, for along with the gas came hot chunks of shit. My computer started beeping like crazy as a huge log pressed down on the function keys. My keyboard went friggin shit-brown. There it was, a steaming turd right across my home row. I had to use fucking motor oil to clean away the fecal matter. I don't know what I'm going to tell my sister when she finds out the keyboard smells like crap.



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That's why Americans live in fear.

China, Cuba and North Korea rule their people same way.
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That's why Americans live in fear.

China, Cuba and North Korea rule their people same way.
What other options do I have? I can't afford the kind of legal team it would take to fight 2257. This is why the FSC is important, and needs to act quickly and decisively.
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That's why Americans live in fear.

China, Cuba and North Korea rule their people same way.
You're right. I'm deathly afraid that tomorrow I'll wake up to a muzzle in my face.
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Mounting an attack on 2257 isn't cheap.
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dumbass... have u ever heard of bail? u don't have to be in jail until you are convicted. both luther campbell & larry flynt didn't comply with DICK. they said FUCK YOU, took it to court & WON.



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You can call me whatever you want to. I know for a fact that Luke fought for a while and lost a lot before he won a lot. I have a lot of respect for Luke and come from a different perspective than people who don't personally know people who have fought obscenity charges. I know the difficulties and I know the triumphs and I know how it affects people even after the dust has cleared.

By no means am I suggesting that we run with our tail between our legs; but I suggest that we fight smart and fight hard.
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Blame it on the cat (or dog as the case may be )
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You're right. I'm deathly afraid that tomorrow I'll wake up to a muzzle in my face.
Laugh today while you can.

10 years ago you would not of convinced anyone on earth to pass The Patriot Act allowing for search, spying and seizure without a warrant.

5 years ago the thought of the USA being attacked on our own soil was inconceivable.

Just 2 years ago you would of never guess in a million years that this (new 2257) was about to happen.

And in just 14 short days some poor fucker is going to get a knock on his door to inspect his records. He will be non-compliant because he never thought that the US government would look at such a small timer such as himself. He will go to jail.

One day you very well could wake up with a muzzle in your face.
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Mounting an attack on 2257 isn't cheap.
For guys like you and I, it is out of reach. For some of the players in this business... chump change.
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i agree the law is wrong

& it was a "rider" law....that rode in on the amber alert bill

which is another thing that should be against the law
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i understand small guys & their inability to fight because of financial concerns. dude, WE ARE NOT CHILD PORNOGRAPHERS NOR DO WE USE TALENT WHOSE AGE IS EVEN IN QUESTION. why is everyone scared they will go to jail for a clerical mistake? this law's intention is to prevent people from using underage women in their productions. BUT it goes BEYOND its intention. it basically says you are GUILTY until proven innocent & that is simply fucking WRONG.



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For guys like you and I, it is out of reach. For some of the players in this business... chump change.
Beyond FSC, there is not much I could do, aside from sending out millions of *cough* E-Mail *cough* to try and raise public awareness.

Its a bad spot to be in, and the reason why I will be sticking to softcore. Land of the free indeed
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i wanna hear from all these programs/sites owners with deep pockets who r pussying out on this shit.... WHY??




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why is everyone scared they will go to jail for a clerical mistake?
Because the law allows the government to do so, and the DOJ is out looking for people to bust. The current administration does not like pornography, and this is a way to bring much of it to an end, and hassle webmasters in the process.

Yes, I realize that people break the law every day, but unlike something private, such as downloading songs from a nonpublic network, or smoking weed in your own home, successful porn sites are in blatant public view - and the lack of proper 2257 will be too.

I'd rather not wear an "arrest me" sign.
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'd rather not wear an "arrest me" sign.

& that, my friend... is the problem



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I like my business, it just bought me a nice fucking home, I think I'll keep it.

I actually think the new regs are a blessing in disguise.. less free hardcore content & fewer part time free content distributing mutha fuckas mean better conversions for the rest of us.
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I like my business, it just bought me a nice fucking home, I think I'll keep it.
this is an alarmist statement... all of these cats on this board are flipping the fuck out. its really not that hard to "comply" but you cats are fuckin with people's privacy to obey some bullshit law??


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I actually think the new regs are a blessing in disguise.. less free hardcore content & fewer part time free content distributing mutha fuckas mean better conversions for the rest of us.
you are correct... there are many benefits for those who wish to shrink the number of cats in this biz but loads of negative points that completely nullify the positive ones.


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My theory is that big site owners, in large, don't give a fuck, actually a THINNING of the heard should increase their profits...why fight something that is going to make them more money?

Less competition from less than professional part timers, and less access to free porn...in theory could mean more cash for them...

Sure they know in concept that the law is seriously overstepping...but they got to those big dollars by looking after their own self interest...I think they're just doing more of the same this time...


A rare few biggies will join the fight the other biggies will just watch and roll with the punches...as for me, I quit host nude images years ago and sleep pretty well today...

However, I'm still concerned to watch as these freedoms continue to be stomped on, sure the adult net needed some cleaning up, some more 'get your ass together professionally'...but the intent of this overstepping upgrade of 2257 seems pretty clear, the proof will be in the pudding. I'm curious to see how they exercise these new terms in the coming months/year... :/

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you are correct... there are many benefits for those who wish to shrink the number of cats in this biz but loads of negative points that completely nullify the positive ones.
I disagree.

As with any industry, the less competition the greater the profits. The basis for which the new regs are based is bullshit, yes, but it will weed out the partially invested.
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I disagree.

As with any industry, the less competition the greater the profits. The basis for which the new regs are based is bullshit, yes, but it will weed out the partially invested.

didn't we just say the same thing?



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didn't we just say the same thing?



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That's what it looks like. Anyways, less free porn and a thinning of the herd is a good thing.
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I'm beginning to think that this law will never be enforced...
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I agree. Compliers are pussies.

It's an illegal regulation change and it has to be fought.
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China, Cuba and North Korea rule their people same way.
yep. On the other hand, its known all over the world that in US jails u have a chance of getting assfucked.... And i wouldnt be surprised its partly propaganda of the gov to make ppl fear the prison. And it works.
I live in holland, and if id have to go to jail here for a case i lost, i wouldnt really care. But i dont know how i would act if id live in the US.
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I'm beginning to think that this law will never be enforced...
It probably won't be until the .xxx domains are available (with a mandatory 2257/Custodian of Records stipulation). Then they will use it to scare the non-.xxx webmasters into paying for the .xxx domains, where the Custodianship info won't be as public (it will be part of the domain registration).

The fact that so many webmasters were scared into shelling out $300 each for temporary FSC relief makes me think that they will be more than eager to shell out $60 for a little more peace of mind.
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Old 06-27-2005, 03:34 PM   #47
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Old 06-27-2005, 03:37 PM   #48
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yep. On the other hand, its known all over the world that in US jails u have a chance of getting assfucked.... And i wouldnt be surprised its partly propaganda of the gov to make ppl fear the prison. And it works.
I live in holland, and if id have to go to jail here for a case i lost, i wouldnt really care. But i dont know how i would act if id live in the US.
I've never been in jail here in the US or anywhere else really so I dont know first hand however I've heard many a story that would lead me to believe it isn't propaganda...I've also heard some horrific things about jails in other countries, in Holland I'd probably not be scared shitless because I can not recall hearing one violent thing about Holland or it's practices in any arena however in like Turkey or the Middle East or Japan or Mexico...I would rather poke my eyes out then land in one of their jails! I always figured our jails were sorta tame...course again this not based in experience just me biting for the medias crapola!
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US federal prisons are like confined hotel rooms (from what i've heard) & state prisons are pretty bad but not nearly as bad as some of the hooscows i've seen overseas... thas some scary shit :




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