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Old 06-04-2005, 03:02 PM   #1
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New my2257 Software Introduced

Talent Management Solutions LLC announces the release of:
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Talent Management Solutions LLC of Las Vegas, Nevada announces the release of two new products their my2257 Compliance Solution. These products have been developed in response to recent input and feed back from webmasters, content producers and talent agencies.

Developed as stand alone, self install applications to install on your personal computer. Using Microsoft XP Home or Professional with Microsoft Desktop Engine 2000 (MSDE 2000) as its database.

Enter and maintain details and records pertaining to your websites content. Enter models by real name and cross reference to all known aliases. Scan directly or import identifications into your database. Track all productions by talent, date of production (DOP), content type and cross reference to all talent to each productions distribution URL?s.

my2257 allows webmaster to batch their content through our patent pending EXIF Encryption engine allowing webmaster to encrypt pertinent 18USC2257 details into every images distributed by them on the Internet.

Though our patent pending live update system your compliance with 18USC2257 regulations will be kept compliant with live updates from our servers. Any changes to the regulations will be automatically updated to your software. Additionally our update system allows for consistent updates to producers custodial of record (COR) information. Every time on of our producers updates their information your COR will be automatically update to help insure your compliance.

Import new content and 18USC2257 requirements from one of our my2257 producers and have the option to update your records or to complete missing information pertaining to specific talent. my2257 will automatically update producers through our systems of the new URL?s you distribute the content too. Providing ease of compliance and security to both the webmaster and the producer.


my2257 Webmaster Edition $595 + $29 per month

Designed with Webmasters in mind. My22257 Webmaster Edition allows you to track your talent and website in a compliant database. Will support a single user and is designed to meet the requirements of webmasters running their own sites. Installs on any computer running Microsoft Windows XP with Microsoft Desktop Engine 2000 (MSDE 2000).

Verifies producer?s custodian of Records information before any data is entered into your system to insure industry accuracy. Allow for the direct importations of new content and 18USC2257 documentation from producer using the my2257 system.

Monthly Maintenance fee includes:
Tech support, automatic updates, producer verifications, direct importation of new compliant content.

my2257 Talent Management Edition $995 + $99 per month

Do you operate a Talent Agency?
my2257 Talent Management Edition supports a single user and is designed to meet the requirements of Talent Agency needing to meet comply with 18USC2257 requirements. Installs on any computer running Microsoft Windows XP with Microsoft SQL Server 2000 Desktop Engine (MSDE 2000).

Talent Agencies can input new talent into the my2257 Universal Talent Registry. Follow industry Health Test and update the test of the talent you represent. Allows the tracking of current and new talent and the ability to send updates to producers. Can be upgraded with your own Talent Management Website to post current and new talent details and images.

Monthly Maintenance fee includes:
Verification and addition of new talent, Verification and addition of Talent Health test, Automatic Software Updates, publication and emailing of approved producers with new talent updates.

Coming soon: Talent Management Website - $295 set up and Site Hosting $99 p/ month
Design and manage your Talent Management Company through my2257?s integrated database and site hosting. Add or update talent on your site and automatically notify your producers.

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Old 06-04-2005, 03:05 PM   #2
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whoa that was a lot of reading
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Old 06-04-2005, 03:05 PM   #3
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Pricey, but i guess its a neccesary cost to ensure we all stay legal!

Does this program follow legal guidlines / legally accurate as far as 2257 is concerned?
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Old 06-04-2005, 03:06 PM   #4
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Old 06-04-2005, 03:06 PM   #5
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with this "my2257 Webmaster Edition $595 + $29 per month" what happens if the webmaster no longer pays the monthly fee?
Since they need to keep records for 7 years from last publication seems like you could have them by the pinkbits.
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Old 06-04-2005, 03:06 PM   #6
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Old 06-04-2005, 03:11 PM   #7
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i guess after all the flaming of the prices being in the thousands you all decided to finally lower em
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Pricey, but i guess its a neccesary cost to ensure we all stay legal!

Does this program follow legal guidlines / legally accurate as far as 2257 is concerned?
Product was reviewed by Greg Piccionelli Esq.
Greg has been a retained Consultant on this product since it conception and is very well known in the Adult Entertainment Industry.
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Old 06-04-2005, 03:12 PM   #9
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Money money money, but seems worth it
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Product was reviewed by Greg Piccionelli Esq.
Greg has been a retained Consultant on this product since it conception and is very well known in the Adult Entertainment Industry.
reviewed? Greg holds the patent!
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If payment stops their License Key will be suspended.
All updates and communication with our servers will cease
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If payment stops their License Key will be suspended.
All updates and communication with our servers will cease
So does this mean the software will not work on the users system or that is just stoped getting updates?

No half answers or legaleze, standard english straight foward answer please.
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Old 06-04-2005, 03:16 PM   #13
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how is it compliant for someone operating live feeds?
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how is it compliant for someone operating live feeds?
Live feeds will have to use the larger network version.
This version is for Webmasters.

Press release on the Live Feed technology to be released soon.
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So does this mean the software will not work on the users system or that is just stoped getting updates?

No half answers or legaleze, standard english straight foward answer please.
my2257 please answer his question.
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Old 06-04-2005, 03:43 PM   #16
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wasnt there some guy making this for free ?
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wasnt there some guy making this for free ?
I "think' www.2257ware.com is what you're referring to.
(sorry for the thread hijack....)

Just about ready as I understand it....
Simple but effective....

Something for everyone it seems.
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i hate all this 2257 =\
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So after trying to rape webmasters with a $3000 packaged computer and software, which you adamantly stated was to protect against 'unlicensed' copies of XP, you're running an comparatively expensive software solution after you got chastized instead of selling it? You lost me as a customer forever during your first thread.
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So after trying to rape webmasters with a $3000 packaged computer and software, which you adamantly stated was to protect against 'unlicensed' copies of XP, you're running an comparatively expensive software solution after you got chastized instead of selling it? You lost me as a customer forever during your first thread.
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=475364
Unless I am mistaken they are two seperate products. The one in your thread was more for the sponsors than the affiliates or secondary producers. As I seem to see it the one posted in this thread is for affiliates and secondary producers and the other one for sponsors and producers is still 3,000.00+
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Unless I am mistaken they are two seperate products. The one in your thread was more for the sponsors than the affiliates or secondary producers. As I seem to see it the one posted in this thread is for affiliates and secondary producers and the other one for sponsors and producers is still 3,000.00+
Ahh your right, Still a rip off for webmasters because most are part timers and cant afford to pay 600 bux for software then a monthly fee or they loose the license thats blatantly stupid, Thats like microsoft selling me XP and saying hey pay us 100 bucks a month or the license gets killed BITCH!
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Unless I am mistaken they are two seperate products. The one in your thread was more for the sponsors than the affiliates or secondary producers. As I seem to see it the one posted in this thread is for affiliates and secondary producers and the other one for sponsors and producers is still 3,000.00+
I admit I didn't (and still haven't) bothered to read this threat's original post to make a comparison, so you may be right. I just think in a time of need, people should help each other out and not try to profit at others' expense...I don't see much difference between this and selling water for $10/gallon after a natural disaster.
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The central question is that if I go out of business tomorrow, broke and unable to pay the monthly fees, or if your service quits tomorrow for whatever reason, will I still have the full records on hand that the law requires?

Because if not, this isn't a solution at all. The potential penalty for failing to keep the records for long enough, is simply too great to put that much faith in a remote third-party service.
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The central question is that if I go out of business tomorrow, broke and unable to pay the monthly fees, or if your service quits tomorrow for whatever reason, will I still have the full records on hand that the law requires?

Because if not, this isn't a solution at all. The potential penalty for failing to keep the records for long enough, is simply too great to put that much faith in a remote third-party service.
Yes - You still have your full system and database.
The software runs on your machine.
You just have no access to our servers for updates and support.
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We will still offer larger solutions that run on Microsoft Server 2003 with SQL Server.
These will be turn keys due to the amount of configuration required to configure for each company

These systems are intended for large production operations (Primary Producers).

This is where we had originally intended our business to go, but we understand the need for a simpler product that only offers the 2257 components.
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We have had 100's of request for additional information and probably 100+ calls in the last few days. I apologize for the delays in getting back to everyone that has requested information.

I will be in Los Angeles Monday - Thursday for a number of meetings and presentations with perspective clients. We have a few very large companies to meet with and anticipate some exciting sales next week. Please email us if you need anything ASAP next week.

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Ahh your right, Still a rip off for webmasters because most are part timers and cant afford to pay 600 bux for software then a monthly fee or they loose the license thats blatantly stupid, Thats like microsoft selling me XP and saying hey pay us 100 bucks a month or the license gets killed BITCH!

A rip off?

No it's not.

So what if the average webmaster is a part timer? There are still costs involved in doing business and being compliant.

If you can't afford the software then you can't afford an attorney who knows about these laws either so you have no business being in this business and are only making things worse for the rest of us.
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A rip off?

No it's not.

So what if the average webmaster is a part timer? There are still costs involved in doing business and being compliant.

If you can't afford the software then you can't afford an attorney who knows about these laws either so you have no business being in this business and are only making things worse for the rest of us.

To follow this up.....Photoshop costs hundreds of dollars and "the average webmaster" can't afford that either...So they steal it. We all know this is true.

Again...If you can't afford to do business properly and legally...GTFO.

Personally, I say good riddance.
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A rip off?

No it's not.

So what if the average webmaster is a part timer? There are still costs involved in doing business and being compliant.

If you can't afford the software then you can't afford an attorney who knows about these laws either so you have no business being in this business and are only making things worse for the rest of us.
Simpler solutions than paying this aaron, New Breed is offering up a nice solution and im sure there will be others soon..
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To follow this up.....Photoshop costs hundreds of dollars and "the average webmaster" can't afford that either...So they steal it. We all know this is true.

Again...If you can't afford to do business properly and legally...GTFO.

Personally, I say good riddance.
Thats what i like about this new law is its going to clear alot of people out and make it better for us to make more money that will comply
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Simpler solutions than paying this aaron, New Breed is offering up a nice solution and im sure there will be others soon..

I have a solution as well. And it will be cheaper if not free.

That's not the point. I've seen a bit of this company's software and to tell you the truth...I think it's worth every dime they are asking.

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I have a solution as well. And it will be cheaper if not free.

That's not the point. I've seen a bit of this company's software and to tell you the truth...I think it's worth every dime they are asking.
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Thank you for you input.

I have NEVER claimed this product was for everyone! I have referred a number of people this week to other products. Probably referred 2 to 1 to others products than our own. We ARE not going to be cheap or FREE. We have a lot invested in this product and have a number of very LARGE companies interested in our services.

There is as much room for compliance products and ideas as there is for content producers and niches. Everyone will eventually find the shoe that fits their business and chose to go with that solution.

After speaking to a number of large affiliate programs, primary producers and large site owners this week we have a much better understand of the vast amount of time, energy and finances it will require these Companies to invests to become and stay compliant. Our goal is to assist these Companies to the best of our abilities.

We are bringing aboard another programmer in the next few weeks to wrap up our Live and Streaming video solution and hope to have it ready by months end.

A lot is happening here and people have been working 18+ hour days for the last two weeks to get everything done as fast as possible. This has been a huge under taking and I know there are people who think this product can be written in a few days. I wish them the best of luck and success on their endeavors.

Again ? is our product perfect for everyone?
NO ? what product ever is.

Will it fit the needs of many?
YES ? The enquiries ? Meetings Scheduled and 100?s of phone calls have assured us of that.
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There is as much room for compliance products and ideas as there is for content producers and niches.

That's a mighty nice statement for a guy to make who's product has a patent application pending.

Not busting your balls....I like what I've seen of your product and to be 100% upfront with you, your pending patent application concerns me....In fact, I would love to discuss that very issue with you when you have a chance.

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Most compliance software in the world prevents civil suits and is backed by insurance... this is one of the only criminal compliance deals out there.

So since they are going to ensure compliance for us.. will they go to jail on our behalf if their patent pending method doesnt keep us compliant?

Or will we have to pay a monthly fee for that service?

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Love to talk with you at anytime.

Yes the Patent application of 2002 and the additional CIP applications based on the parent applications that were filed on May 26, 2005 should let people know we are serious. Additional CIP applications based on the parent application will be filed over the next few months.
We have a number of technologies being developed strictly for this software.

Patents are not cheap to file and retaining the Attorneys qualified to write them, submit them and follow through is very expensive, but it?s the only way to protect our investment.

Information pertaining to the parent U.S. patent application can be found by accessing the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office website at http://www.uspto.gov/ and clicking the "Status & IFW" link, or by directly visiting http://portal.uspto.gov/external/portal/pair and entering Application #10/644,635.
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doesnt asbestos have a patent?
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doesnt asbestos have a patent?
So did the wheel barrow
What does that have to due with the price of tea in China?
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So did the wheel barrow
What does that have to due with the price of tea in China?

Not a God damn thing.

Clearly New Hope is a troll.

Don't feed the trolls.
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still too expensive, monthly maintenance fee still doesn't make sense... it's like microsoft requiring that people pay every month to use excel. just lower the price, make the maintenance fee optional & you would expand your customer base. i produce content myself & i see ways of doing this without such a large startup & monthly fee. i think you guys should've done a lil more market research b4 dropping this product but at this point, i suppose u can only concern yerself with damage control. not a good start


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still too expensive, monthly maintenance fee still doesn't make sense... it's like microsoft requiring that people pay every month to use excel. just lower the price, make the maintenance fee optional & you would expand your customer base. i produce content myself & i see ways of doing this without such a large startup & monthly fee. i think you guys should've done a lil more market research b4 dropping this product but at this point, i suppose u can only concern yerself with damage control. not a good start


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Interesting thought
Wonder if the 6 people that have requested or NDA and Agreements to review since 3PM feel the way you do.
Nope - I'm sure they don't - THEY are BUYING the product!
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Old 06-04-2005, 07:36 PM   #42
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So did the wheel barrow
What does that have to due with the price of tea in China?
point is that patents dont mean the product is any good.
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Old 06-04-2005, 07:39 PM   #43
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Wonder if the 6 people that have requested or NDA and Agreements to review since 3PM feel the way you do.
Nope - I'm sure they don't - THEY are BUYING the product!

ummmm... i didn't say no one would buy it, i'm trying to give you some friendly advice but you seem to think there is some validity to it or you woudln't be so defensive?.... i'm not a nooob so don't think i'm impressed by these numbers you keep spewing. i could care less... you fucked up. go back to the drawing board.... let the threads die & start fresh cuz the free/competitor apps use will easily eclipse yours @ these silly prices. done.



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I posted a database schema (SQL) for 2257 in hopes that someone would gen the frontend.

so far nobody has taken me up on it.

if you can do it email me and I will send ya the schema...it has to be free though

Its not a hard task...very simple tables and should be done in PHP...for a good PHP guy its a days work at best, for someone with an ODBC compliant code generator its a few hrs
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Old 06-04-2005, 09:59 PM   #45
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I trust my security and freedom to a free product
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I trust my security and freedom to a free product
so NOT FREE (or waaaaay overpriced) means better? yeah, you're the perfect customer for this product. there ya go, pal... a new customer! woohoo!



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Nice to see you coming out with a webmaster solution. Good luck with your meetings next week.
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Old 06-05-2005, 12:04 AM   #48
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We are using the my2257 product and it ROCKS.
Been entering models and productions and amazing how easy it is to use.
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