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Old 05-31-2005, 07:56 PM   #1
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Will Link Hotten Pics From Another Server Help With 2257?

I figure as long as you link hotten images from someone elses server you wont have to keep the records right?

Looks like the US webmasters might be turning to the way of the Chinese webmaster over the next few weeks

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Old 05-31-2005, 08:00 PM   #2
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It's still on your site so it wouldn't matter.
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Old 05-31-2005, 08:06 PM   #3
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It's still on your site so it wouldn't matter.
Actually, it isnt.

Thats the whole purpose of link hotten

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Old 05-31-2005, 08:08 PM   #4
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I figure as long as you link hotten images from someone elses server you wont have to keep the records right?

Looks like the US webmasters might be turning to the way of the Chinese webmaster over the next few weeks

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You mean like creating a fake content plugin hosted on a foreign server?
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Old 05-31-2005, 08:09 PM   #5
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It's still on your site so it wouldn't matter.
Yeah, I agree. So would most lawyers.
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Old 05-31-2005, 08:13 PM   #6
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Yeah, I agree. So would most lawyers.
Lee is just a damn retard.
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Old 05-31-2005, 08:13 PM   #7
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Actually, it isnt.

Thats the whole purpose of link hotten

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Yes thank you for saving the adult porn industry Lee. We'll all just hotlink from hosted galleries and be saved!
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Old 05-31-2005, 08:16 PM   #8
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Lee makes perfect sense. It's going to be all about the loopholes
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Old 05-31-2005, 08:17 PM   #9
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Lee makes perfect sense. It's going to be all about the loopholes
You think the thousands of adult webmasters just never considered hotlinking until brilliant Lee came along? You publish the shit on your site, hotlinked or not, you are a producer. There is no fucking loophole!
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Old 05-31-2005, 08:19 PM   #10
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Lee, it isn't WHERE the content is, it is who causes it to be published. If the content appears to be on your site, no matter where the content ACTUALLY is, the DOJ will come and ask you to prove what you published is legal.

Same trick for live show plugins. If the URL of the live show is the same as the site calling it, then technically the site calling it is responsble for publishing the content.

It would be like playboy magazine being able ot publish CP because the pages were printed in another country.

Not gonna fly.

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Old 05-31-2005, 08:19 PM   #11
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You think the thousands of adult webmasters just never considered hotlinking until brilliant Lee came along? You publish the shit on your site, hotlinked or not, you are a producer. There is no fucking loophole!
What about plugin feeds?
What is the deal with that?
Also, what about text tgp's linking to galleries?
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Old 05-31-2005, 08:20 PM   #12
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You think the thousands of adult webmasters just never considered hotlinking until brilliant Lee came along? You publish the shit on your site, hotlinked or not, you are a producer. There is no fucking loophole!
Spend your milkmoney and get a lawyer
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Old 05-31-2005, 08:22 PM   #13
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Spend your milkmoney and get a lawyer
I wake up every day and curse the fact that people as ignorant as you exist on this earth. You are a disgrace to the human race.
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Old 05-31-2005, 08:25 PM   #14
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I wake up every day and curse the fact that people as ignorant as you exist on this earth. You are a disgrace to the human race.
How so? Seriously, why would you say that?

You have just about as much clue to this situation ast he US gov't does. Everything will need to be refined and honed.

You know it all, eh?
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Old 05-31-2005, 08:30 PM   #15
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How so? Seriously, why would you say that?

You have just about as much clue to this situation ast he US gov't does. Everything will need to be refined and honed.

You know it all, eh?
I've read the regulations. Hotlinking an explicit pic on your damn domain will be considered illegal by any court in America. Go ahead and try it if you think it's going to help. Just don't give credibility to this morons claim because innocent bystanders might take his word as gospel and get themselves in trouble.
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I've read the regulations. Hotlinking an explicit pic on your damn domain will be considered illegal by any court in America. Go ahead and try it if you think it's going to help.
Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa h!
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Old 05-31-2005, 08:39 PM   #17
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Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa h!
It must be nice to be so oblivious to your stupidity. Seriously, I bet you have a blast wallowing in your ignorance. Me, I'm cursed with having a little common fucking sense so I don't have it so easy.
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Old 05-31-2005, 09:51 PM   #18
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Actually, it isnt.

Thats the whole purpose of link hotten

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Yes I'm sure that excuse wil fly with the DOJ while they haul your ass off to jail. I mean in the end you may be right( or not ) but how much money and how time time in jail, how much time in court did you have to spend proving you're right. Not to mention now everyone in your town thinks you're some kind of sexual freak after their women and children perhaps pets. Wouldn't complying be much easier?
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What a stupid question. You get the award for being a jackass.
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Yes I'm sure that excuse wil fly with the DOJ while they haul your ass off to jail. I mean in the end you may be right( or not ) but how much money and how time time in jail, how much time in court did you have to spend proving you're right. Not to mention now everyone in your town thinks you're some kind of sexual freak after their women and children perhaps pets. Wouldn't complying be much easier?
Professionally, these new 2257 regs dont affect us at all.

Our 'porn' business has and always will be run out of our UK offices with the exception of 1 site which will have its ownership transferred to our British company early next month.

I was mearly offering up an alternative point of view considering that in the past, the courts have weighed in favor of those who actually host the images / links in any given case as oppose to those who actually 'publish' the links / images.

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I was mearly offering up an alternative point of view considering that in the past, the courts have weighed in favor of those who actually host the images / links in any given case as oppose to those who actually 'publish' the links / images.

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Yeah that's the keyword, COURTS. You have to go to COURT first which means getting ARRESTED and then paying A LOT of money for a LAWYER.

People that have to comply( and I know you Euros think you don't so I'm not even getting into that. I'm talking about Americans here ) need to quit trying to be cutesy with the language of the regs and trying to find loopholes which may or may not exist and get busy complying. If there are loopholes or whatever let the LAWYERS find them. Until a court tells you that you don't have to comply I suggest you do.
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Old 06-01-2005, 12:30 AM   #22
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Imagine if you get pissed that someone is hotlinking from you and you switch that graphic on your server to a XXX image to get even.

Is the hotlinker now considered a producer and bound to 2257?
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Old 06-01-2005, 12:46 AM   #23
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quit trying to be cutesy with the language of the regs and trying to find loopholes which may or may not exist and get busy complying.
Agreed

The good thing is, its the people in the industry who are only doing this as a hobby that are trying to skirt around these new regs.

Anyone who has been running sites as a serious business will already realize that these new regs really arent as bad as others are making them out to be, i mean, didnt anyone keep proper records prior to these new regs being signed?

Its not rocket science people, if you were up to speed prior to these new regs being published, being up to speed on them on the 23rd June is no biggie at all, you have to add one additional peice of information to your data, thats all

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Agreed

The good thing is, its the people in the industry who are only doing this as a hobby that are trying to skirt around these new regs.

Anyone who has been running sites as a serious business will already realize that these new regs really arent as bad as others are making them out to be, i mean, didnt anyone keep proper records prior to these new regs being signed?

Its not rocket science people, if you were up to speed prior to these new regs being published, being up to speed on them on the 23rd June is no biggie at all, you have to add one additional peice of information to your data, thats all

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Yeah Im happy you see that. Now stop acting like a fucking idiot and you'll be all set.

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