Webcam Program Owners/Affiliates - 2257? - GoFuckYourself.com

CrazyNakedChick · 05-25-2005, 03:20 PM

I know a shitload of cam models that are very worried about their off platform promotions. I can only imagine what the program owners themselves are going through at this point.

Program owners, what do you plan to do for your affiliates?

Affiliates, if you promote cam babes and use affected content how do you plan to continue your promotions?

Not trying to stir any shit, I've actually been waiting for someone else to address this. I'd suggest cam babes get on the ball making R-rated content to give out to promoters, but some would say I am jumping the gun.

Dirty Dane · 05-25-2005, 03:22 PM

end of live-cams?

CrazyNakedChick · 05-25-2005, 03:25 PM

Naw, I see a move to more hosted content. But I am curious as to what program owners are getting together and how they plan to take care of their affiliates and models.

Quick! Someone post all the top cam program names, light up the trackers.

crockett · 05-25-2005, 03:30 PM

The big issue is not the 2257 docs IMO but it's the fact you have to keep a copy of the each picture set, video and so on, filed with the documents. I can't see how it would be possible to do this for any sort of live streams due to the files sizes of the shows.

I would think they will have to amend that part of the law as I can't see how any webcam sponsor or live stream companies could comply with that rule.

Sly · 05-25-2005, 03:31 PM

This is excellent. There's this new cam girl I've been into lately. All I need to do is sign-up as an affiliate, learn a little HTML, and voila! I'll have her home address and even phone number. Suhweet! I'll be sending flowers and dildos tomorrow.

Yikes!

I see many solutions presenting themselves over the next couple weeks, I wouldn't freak out... yet.

CrazyNakedChick · 05-25-2005, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

The big issue is not the 2257 docs IMO but it's the fact you have to keep a copy of the each picture set, video and so on, filed with the documents. I can't see how it would be possible to do this for any sort of live streams due to the files sizes of the shows.

I would think they will have to amend that part of the law as I can't see how any webcam sponsor or live stream companies could comply with that rule.

Exactly, it's impossible. Literally. Tis why I am so curious as to what the program owners are attempting to plan.

CrazyNakedChick · 05-25-2005, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

...I see many solutions presenting themselves over the next couple weeks, I wouldn't freak out... yet.

What solutions do you see? I honestly can't see many with the way the regs stand now.

(PS. I just picked up 16 lbs. of perfect Delmonico steaks from muh bootcher. Steak n Molsons tonight?)

Sly · 05-25-2005, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyNakedChick

What solutions do you see? I honestly can't see many with the way the regs stand now.

(PS. I just picked up 16 lbs. of perfect Delmonico steaks from muh bootcher. Steak n Molsons tonight?)

I was mainly referring to the whole 2257 issue, not the cam issue, so I guess I'm in the wrong thread, haha. Cam girls handing out IDs is a serious privacy issue, something I'm sure the FSC is concerned with.

What time should I come over?

CrazyNakedChick · 05-25-2005, 03:51 PM

Heheh, you can say that again.

Ooooh, say around 8pm. I'm soaking the applewood chunks right now. I even picked up some hot onion and Portabellos.....mmmm.

bigdog · 05-25-2005, 05:57 PM

i can just imagine a guy chatting with a live model, and the surfer saying can i visit you later at your home on 69 Stalker Road

Chimmy · 05-25-2005, 06:35 PM

Hmmm..let's look over the thread and see what answers the industry reps provided. Oh, wait, my mistake. There are no industry rep responses.

As is the norm, not one industry rep. has offered one peep of what they plan to do to make the transition to the new 2257 regs a smooth transition for their affiliates. We're talking 30 days here folks. Put some pressure on the industry to ensure that they are looking after your best interests, and not just their own.

will76 · 05-25-2005, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Chimmy

Hmmm..let's look over the thread and see what answers the industry reps provided. Oh, wait, my mistake. There are no industry rep responses.

As is the norm, not one industry rep. has offered one peep of what they plan to do to make the transition to the new 2257 regs a smooth transition for their affiliates. We're talking 30 days here folks. Put some pressure on the industry to ensure that they are looking after your best interests, and not just their own.

My Guess is that their legal teams are working on what they will do as we speak and the bigger companies at least are not likely to start making random post about it here. Their affiliates would be contacted first i believe if anything.

My personal thoughts: I am wondering since the chathost is producing the content in her bedroom and passing it along to the site she works for will that chathost have to display her own 2257 on her live cam page instead of the website having it listed on the 2257 page and the website holds all the docs. Not sure how that works or will work, but from the standpoint of an affiliate it is pretty easy to deal with regardless of how the handle it, just don't use nude pics in your ads. Kinda kills the TGP's unless the industry standard makes a shift to non nude/ less hardcore pics then it would be ok. But think it would be hard to make money with TGP's with all clothed pics. As far as the rest of advertising using non nude pics i personally know that works well, so no worries from me as an affiliate. If i don't have her legal docs in hand, i dont use nude pics to advertise her.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 05-25-2005, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyNakedChick

P.S. I just picked up 16 lbs. of perfect Delmonico steaks from muh bootcher. Steak n Molsons tonight?

Washing down steak with beer?!? Try a nice Cabernet or Merlot instead. Wine compliments steak much better than beer. You can even add some on the steak while cooking or create a nice wine sauce.

If you saute the onions and mushrooms first, you can make them nice and carmelized before putting them on the steak (btw, try shitake mushrooms sometime).

Oh well, beer or wine, it's your choice. Have a nice dinner...

Bon apetit,

ADG Webmaster

Chimmy · 05-25-2005, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76

My Guess is that their legal teams are working on what they will do as we speak and the bigger companies at least are not likely to start making random post about it here. Their affiliates would be contacted first i believe if anything.

Looks like everyone has fallen for the party line...

But the truth is, we have known that these new regs were on their way for quite some time now. And a draft copy of the regs has also been available for an equally long period of time. So, if any of the program owners have not already prepared for this inevitability then this really shows how poorly run this industry really is.

For some of you, this is your income. Do you truly believe that in ANY other industry in the world, the business operators would throw their faith in suppliers who apparently don't even have a game plan for something that is very quickly coming down the pipes.

I haven't been on this board for long, but I am continually amazed every single day at the business practices that are accepted here.

Kevsh · 05-25-2005, 07:17 PM

I'm already applying to Wendy's for an Assistant Manager job.

Nate-MM2 · 05-25-2005, 07:19 PM

We are working on some solutions for cam models as well as the affiliates that promote them.

Tofu · 05-25-2005, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevsh

I'm already applying to Wendy's for an Assistant Manager job.

Im waiting on a phone call from mi Cuban connection. Hopefully he still trusts mi enough to front mi a couple of kilo's.

Chimmy · 05-25-2005, 07:33 PM

Judging from the responses in this thread, my next question is..are any of you really adult industry business people? Nope, didn't think so.

Taboo · 05-26-2005, 04:46 AM

bump-worthy

macker · 05-26-2005, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Dane

end of live-cams?

Never happen

basschick · 05-26-2005, 06:42 AM

i know one guy who owns a live chat site. he expects that he will need to store 7000 cd's (or was it dvd's) per year to make this work. luckily for him, he has room to store 49,000 dvd's.

i wonder how much space 49,000 dvd's plus storage furniture uses

chadglni · 05-26-2005, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by macker

Never happen

It will shake up the industry just as well. As stated above, the girl is producing the shit in her own home. It opens a whole can of worms NOBODY wants to think about.

CrazyNakedChick · 05-26-2005, 09:19 AM

I was hoping to see more replies from program owners, even a tepid "We are working on a resolution and will post more info soon"....

Morgan · 07-12-2005, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Washing down steak with beer?!? Try a nice Cabernet or Merlot instead. Wine compliments steak much better than beer. You can even add some on the steak while cooking or create a nice wine sauce.

If you saute the onions and mushrooms first, you can make them nice and carmelized before putting them on the steak (btw, try shitake mushrooms sometime).

Oh well, beer or wine, it's your choice. Have a nice dinner...

Bon apetit,

ADG Webmaster

I would rather drink the shittiest coors light than a 1,000.00 glass of wine.

wine tastes like ass imo.

05-25-2005, 03:20 PM	#1
CrazyNakedChick Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Infidelville Posts: 1,902	Webcam Program Owners/Affiliates - 2257? I know a shitload of cam models that are very worried about their off platform promotions. I can only imagine what the program owners themselves are going through at this point. Program owners, what do you plan to do for your affiliates? Affiliates, if you promote cam babes and use affected content how do you plan to continue your promotions? Not trying to stir any shit, I've actually been waiting for someone else to address this. I'd suggest cam babes get on the ball making R-rated content to give out to promoters, but some would say I am jumping the gun. __________________ Addicted to Lingerie? Got Broadband? Click Here!

05-25-2005, 03:25 PM	#3
CrazyNakedChick Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Infidelville Posts: 1,902	Naw, I see a move to more hosted content. But I am curious as to what program owners are getting together and how they plan to take care of their affiliates and models. Quick! Someone post all the top cam program names, light up the trackers. __________________ Addicted to Lingerie? Got Broadband? Click Here!

05-25-2005, 03:30 PM	#4
crockett in a van by the river Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 76,806	The big issue is not the 2257 docs IMO but it's the fact you have to keep a copy of the each picture set, video and so on, filed with the documents. I can't see how it would be possible to do this for any sort of live streams due to the files sizes of the shows. I would think they will have to amend that part of the law as I can't see how any webcam sponsor or live stream companies could comply with that rule. __________________ In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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Sly Let's do some business! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 31,329	This is excellent. There's this new cam girl I've been into lately. All I need to do is sign-up as an affiliate, learn a little HTML, and voila! I'll have her home address and even phone number. Suhweet! I'll be sending flowers and dildos tomorrow. Yikes! I see many solutions presenting themselves over the next couple weeks, I wouldn't freak out... yet. __________________ Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted Windows VPS now available Great for TSS, Nifty Stats, remote work, virtual assistants, etc. Click here for more details.

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CrazyNakedChick Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Infidelville Posts: 1,902	Heheh, you can say that again. Ooooh, say around 8pm. I'm soaking the applewood chunks right now. I even picked up some hot onion and Portabellos.....mmmm. __________________ Addicted to Lingerie? Got Broadband? Click Here!

05-25-2005, 03:22 PM	#2
Dirty Dane Sick Fuck Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: www Posts: 9,491	end of live-cams?

05-25-2005, 05:57 PM	#10
bigdog Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,964	i can just imagine a guy chatting with a live model, and the surfer saying can i visit you later at your home on 69 Stalker Road

05-25-2005, 06:35 PM	#11
Chimmy Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 469	Hmmm..let's look over the thread and see what answers the industry reps provided. Oh, wait, my mistake. There are no industry rep responses. As is the norm, not one industry rep. has offered one peep of what they plan to do to make the transition to the new 2257 regs a smooth transition for their affiliates. We're talking 30 days here folks. Put some pressure on the industry to ensure that they are looking after your best interests, and not just their own.

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Kevsh Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: TO Posts: 8,619	I'm already applying to Wendy's for an Assistant Manager job.

05-25-2005, 07:19 PM	#16
Nate-MM2 So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vancouver, CANADA Posts: 263	We are working on some solutions for cam models as well as the affiliates that promote them.

05-25-2005, 07:33 PM	#18
Chimmy Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 469	Judging from the responses in this thread, my next question is..are any of you really adult industry business people? Nope, didn't think so.

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basschick Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: el lay, ca usa Posts: 2,540	i know one guy who owns a live chat site. he expects that he will need to store 7000 cd's (or was it dvd's) per year to make this work. luckily for him, he has room to store 49,000 dvd's. i wonder how much space 49,000 dvd's plus storage furniture uses __________________ Got Gay and For Women Traffic?

05-26-2005, 09:19 AM	#23
CrazyNakedChick Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Infidelville Posts: 1,902	I was hoping to see more replies from program owners, even a tepid "We are working on a resolution and will post more info soon".... __________________ Addicted to Lingerie? Got Broadband? Click Here!