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  • CrazyNakedChick
    Confirmed User
    • Mar 2002
    • 1902

    #1

    Webcam Program Owners/Affiliates - 2257?

    I know a shitload of cam models that are very worried about their off platform promotions. I can only imagine what the program owners themselves are going through at this point.

    Program owners, what do you plan to do for your affiliates?

    Affiliates, if you promote cam babes and use affected content how do you plan to continue your promotions?

    Not trying to stir any shit, I've actually been waiting for someone else to address this. I'd suggest cam babes get on the ball making R-rated content to give out to promoters, but some would say I am jumping the gun.
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  • Dirty Dane
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    • Feb 2004
    • 9491

    #2
    end of live-cams?

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    • CrazyNakedChick
      Confirmed User
      • Mar 2002
      • 1902

      #3
      Naw, I see a move to more hosted content. But I am curious as to what program owners are getting together and how they plan to take care of their affiliates and models.

      Quick! Someone post all the top cam program names, light up the trackers.
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      • crockett
        in a van by the river
        • May 2003
        • 76818

        #4
        The big issue is not the 2257 docs IMO but it's the fact you have to keep a copy of the each picture set, video and so on, filed with the documents. I can't see how it would be possible to do this for any sort of live streams due to the files sizes of the shows.

        I would think they will have to amend that part of the law as I can't see how any webcam sponsor or live stream companies could comply with that rule.
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        • Sly
          Let's do some business!
          • Sep 2004
          • 31377

          #5
          This is excellent. There's this new cam girl I've been into lately. All I need to do is sign-up as an affiliate, learn a little HTML, and voila! I'll have her home address and even phone number. Suhweet! I'll be sending flowers and dildos tomorrow.

          Yikes!

          I see many solutions presenting themselves over the next couple weeks, I wouldn't freak out... yet.
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          • CrazyNakedChick
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            • Mar 2002
            • 1902

            #6
            Originally posted by crockett
            The big issue is not the 2257 docs IMO but it's the fact you have to keep a copy of the each picture set, video and so on, filed with the documents. I can't see how it would be possible to do this for any sort of live streams due to the files sizes of the shows.

            I would think they will have to amend that part of the law as I can't see how any webcam sponsor or live stream companies could comply with that rule.
            Exactly, it's impossible. Literally. Tis why I am so curious as to what the program owners are attempting to plan.
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            • CrazyNakedChick
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              • Mar 2002
              • 1902

              #7
              Originally posted by Sly
              ...I see many solutions presenting themselves over the next couple weeks, I wouldn't freak out... yet.
              What solutions do you see? I honestly can't see many with the way the regs stand now.

              (PS. I just picked up 16 lbs. of perfect Delmonico steaks from muh bootcher. Steak n Molsons tonight?)
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              • Sly
                Let's do some business!
                • Sep 2004
                • 31377

                #8
                Originally posted by CrazyNakedChick
                What solutions do you see? I honestly can't see many with the way the regs stand now.

                (PS. I just picked up 16 lbs. of perfect Delmonico steaks from muh bootcher. Steak n Molsons tonight?)
                I was mainly referring to the whole 2257 issue, not the cam issue, so I guess I'm in the wrong thread, haha. Cam girls handing out IDs is a serious privacy issue, something I'm sure the FSC is concerned with.

                What time should I come over?
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                • CrazyNakedChick
                  Confirmed User
                  • Mar 2002
                  • 1902

                  #9
                  Heheh, you can say that again.

                  Ooooh, say around 8pm. I'm soaking the applewood chunks right now. I even picked up some hot onion and Portabellos.....mmmm.
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                  • bigdog
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jul 2001
                    • 6964

                    #10
                    i can just imagine a guy chatting with a live model, and the surfer saying can i visit you later at your home on 69 Stalker Road

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                    • Chimmy
                      Confirmed User
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 469

                      #11
                      Hmmm..let's look over the thread and see what answers the industry reps provided. Oh, wait, my mistake. There are no industry rep responses.

                      As is the norm, not one industry rep. has offered one peep of what they plan to do to make the transition to the new 2257 regs a smooth transition for their affiliates. We're talking 30 days here folks. Put some pressure on the industry to ensure that they are looking after your best interests, and not just their own.

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                      • will76
                        Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                        • May 2003
                        • 18037

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Chimmy
                        Hmmm..let's look over the thread and see what answers the industry reps provided. Oh, wait, my mistake. There are no industry rep responses.

                        As is the norm, not one industry rep. has offered one peep of what they plan to do to make the transition to the new 2257 regs a smooth transition for their affiliates. We're talking 30 days here folks. Put some pressure on the industry to ensure that they are looking after your best interests, and not just their own.

                        My Guess is that their legal teams are working on what they will do as we speak and the bigger companies at least are not likely to start making random post about it here. Their affiliates would be contacted first i believe if anything.

                        My personal thoughts: I am wondering since the chathost is producing the content in her bedroom and passing it along to the site she works for will that chathost have to display her own 2257 on her live cam page instead of the website having it listed on the 2257 page and the website holds all the docs. Not sure how that works or will work, but from the standpoint of an affiliate it is pretty easy to deal with regardless of how the handle it, just don't use nude pics in your ads. Kinda kills the TGP's unless the industry standard makes a shift to non nude/ less hardcore pics then it would be ok. But think it would be hard to make money with TGP's with all clothed pics. As far as the rest of advertising using non nude pics i personally know that works well, so no worries from me as an affiliate. If i don't have her legal docs in hand, i dont use nude pics to advertise her.
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                        • AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
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                          • Jul 2004
                          • 38323

                          #13
                          Originally posted by CrazyNakedChick
                          P.S. I just picked up 16 lbs. of perfect Delmonico steaks from muh bootcher. Steak n Molsons tonight?
                          Washing down steak with beer?!? Try a nice Cabernet or Merlot instead. Wine compliments steak much better than beer. You can even add some on the steak while cooking or create a nice wine sauce.

                          If you saute the onions and mushrooms first, you can make them nice and carmelized before putting them on the steak (btw, try shitake mushrooms sometime).

                          Oh well, beer or wine, it's your choice. Have a nice dinner...

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                          • Chimmy
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                            • Feb 2005
                            • 469

                            #14
                            Originally posted by will76
                            My Guess is that their legal teams are working on what they will do as we speak and the bigger companies at least are not likely to start making random post about it here. Their affiliates would be contacted first i believe if anything.
                            Looks like everyone has fallen for the party line...

                            But the truth is, we have known that these new regs were on their way for quite some time now. And a draft copy of the regs has also been available for an equally long period of time. So, if any of the program owners have not already prepared for this inevitability then this really shows how poorly run this industry really is.

                            For some of you, this is your income. Do you truly believe that in ANY other industry in the world, the business operators would throw their faith in suppliers who apparently don't even have a game plan for something that is very quickly coming down the pipes.

                            I haven't been on this board for long, but I am continually amazed every single day at the business practices that are accepted here.

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                            • Kevsh
                              Confirmed User
                              • Dec 2004
                              • 8619

                              #15
                              I'm already applying to Wendy's for an Assistant Manager job.

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                              • Nate-MM2
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                                • Sep 2002
                                • 263

                                #16
                                We are working on some solutions for cam models as well as the affiliates that promote them.

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                                • Tofu
                                  The Video Specialist
                                  • Jul 2003
                                  • 5615

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Kevsh
                                  I'm already applying to Wendy's for an Assistant Manager job.

                                  Im waiting on a phone call from mi Cuban connection. Hopefully he still trusts mi enough to front mi a couple of kilo's.
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                                  • Chimmy
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Feb 2005
                                    • 469

                                    #18
                                    Judging from the responses in this thread, my next question is..are any of you really adult industry business people? Nope, didn't think so.

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                                    • Taboo
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                                      • Jul 2004
                                      • 3700

                                      #19
                                      bump-worthy

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                                      • macker
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                                        • Jul 2003
                                        • 2161

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Dirty Dane
                                        end of live-cams?
                                        Never happen

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                                        • basschick
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                                          • Jan 2001
                                          • 2540

                                          #21
                                          i know one guy who owns a live chat site. he expects that he will need to store 7000 cd's (or was it dvd's) per year to make this work. luckily for him, he has room to store 49,000 dvd's.

                                          i wonder how much space 49,000 dvd's plus storage furniture uses
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                                          • chadglni
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Dec 2002
                                            • 6924

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by macker
                                            Never happen
                                            It will shake up the industry just as well. As stated above, the girl is producing the shit in her own home. It opens a whole can of worms NOBODY wants to think about.


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                                            • CrazyNakedChick
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                                              • Mar 2002
                                              • 1902

                                              #23
                                              I was hoping to see more replies from program owners, even a tepid "We are working on a resolution and will post more info soon"....
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                                              • Morgan
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                                                • May 2002
                                                • 10520

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
                                                Washing down steak with beer?!? Try a nice Cabernet or Merlot instead. Wine compliments steak much better than beer. You can even add some on the steak while cooking or create a nice wine sauce.

                                                If you saute the onions and mushrooms first, you can make them nice and carmelized before putting them on the steak (btw, try shitake mushrooms sometime).

                                                Oh well, beer or wine, it's your choice. Have a nice dinner...

                                                Bon apetit,

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