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Chimmy · 05-22-2005, 06:58 PM

O.K, here's one for all you SEO experts. I ran into this site this morning on google, and I have been studying it for hours since. For the life of me, this one has me stumped. There's obviously some very skilled SEO miracle workers behind these pages.

So, how about it...anyone want to offer their thoughts on how they are doing it:

http://www.seocount.com/lavalife/ (#3 position for lavalife)
http://www.seocount.com/fossil-watches/ (#2 position for fossil watches)
http://www.seocount.com/peoplepc/ (#2 position for peoplepc)
http://www.seocount.com/angel-perfume/ (#5 position for angel perfume)

As far as I can detect, all of the pages follow completely ethical techniques for SEO.

Theo · 05-22-2005, 07:00 PM

get so many backlinks too http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...Flaval ife%2F

Alex · 05-22-2005, 07:01 PM

Theo · 05-22-2005, 07:02 PM

actually it seems something else is going there

pocketkangaroo · 05-22-2005, 07:06 PM

Well, they have a ton of links coming in.

http://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=ut...w.seocount.com

97,000 backlinks. As you can see, most look either purchased, or part of a link network. Nothing shady as far as I can see. However, Google has been cracking down on link networks and paid links a lot.

Chimmy · 05-22-2005, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel

get so many backlinks too http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...Flaval ife%2F

Damn...you are right. I was examining backlinks for the main domain, www.seocount.com, but somehow neglected to check backlinks for each specific URL. Well, looks like I have a few more hours of studying ahead of me.

GatorB · 05-22-2005, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

Unless they changed things google has alway ignored metas.

fireorange · 05-22-2005, 07:10 PM

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=lin...web-t&toggle=1

Results 1 - 10 of about 98,000 for linkdomain:seocount.com - 0.24 sec.

Chimmy · 05-22-2005, 07:13 PM

But here's where it gets interesting again. In the last 5 minutes I have gone to the first 20 backlinks listed for http://seocount.com/lavalife/
So far, I haven't found this url listed on any of the backlink pages. And according to the dates beside some of the backlinks, these were last updated yesterday.

Chimmy · 05-22-2005, 07:15 PM

O.K., I have now found one common link on many of the pages:

http://www.digitalpoint.com/tools/ad-network/

Going to research this one a bit more.

Thrawn$ · 05-22-2005, 07:21 PM

it's all about anchor text link back from related sites.

radical · 05-22-2005, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chimmy

O.K., I have now found one common link on many of the pages:

http://www.digitalpoint.com/tools/ad-network/

Going to research this one a bit more.

If you look at each page then they have a significant number of in-bound links probably achieved through a link trade network somewhere! Google is currently dancing just now those serps may hold they may not! Just need to wait and see

swami · 05-22-2005, 08:08 PM

This is a trick well known amongst seos.These guys are making good use of it.Unfortunately,when used like this it rarely becomes a long term strategy.

chowda · 05-22-2005, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by swami

This is a trick well known amongst seos.These guys are making good use of it.Unfortunately,when used like this it rarely becomes a long term strategy.

hey swami, anyways of contactin u besides email?

spunkmaster · 05-22-2005, 09:08 PM

They have a network of cloaked pages and that's why you don't
see the actual links on the sites linking to them !

What you see when you view source isn't what the search engines see !

Chimmy · 05-22-2005, 09:13 PM

I don't think it's cloaked pages. I examined each page using "spider simulator" software. But, I do think it has a lot to do with the link found on most of their backlinks, http://www.digitalpoint.com/tools/ad-network/. This is a link trade service that rotates members links at the foot of the page of participating sites. This would explain why I can't find seocount.com's links on any of the backlink pages. They were likely there when google spidered the pages, but not at the moment that I checked them, due to link rotation.

radical · 05-22-2005, 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spunkmaster

They have a network of cloaked pages and that's why you don't
see the actual links on the sites linking to them !

What you see when you view source isn't what the search engines see !

Those pages chimmy has posted aren't cloaked, what chimmy has posted is what Google is seeing, those rankings have been achieved from:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l... com/peoplepc/

swami · 05-22-2005, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by chowda

hey swami, anyways of contactin u besides email?

You could fly to Vanuatu.I will meet you at the airport.
My icq is iffy.

swami · 05-22-2005, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chowda

hey swami, anyways of contactin u besides email?

To tell the truth, I prefer email.I do answer all my emails.Just put chowda or gfy in the subject line.
Icq takes so much time, I hardly get time to admire my view.
Cheers

05-22-2005, 06:58 PM	#1
Chimmy Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 469	All you SEO Experts, figure this one out O.K, here's one for all you SEO experts. I ran into this site this morning on google, and I have been studying it for hours since. For the life of me, this one has me stumped. There's obviously some very skilled SEO miracle workers behind these pages. So, how about it...anyone want to offer their thoughts on how they are doing it: http://www.seocount.com/lavalife/ (#3 position for lavalife) http://www.seocount.com/fossil-watches/ (#2 position for fossil watches) http://www.seocount.com/peoplepc/ (#2 position for peoplepc) http://www.seocount.com/angel-perfume/ (#5 position for angel perfume) As far as I can detect, all of the pages follow completely ethical techniques for SEO.

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Thrawn$ Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Mtl Posts: 4,596	it's all about anchor text link back from related sites. __________________ Tracking 202 \| Start Tracking PPC Campaigns Like A Pro

05-22-2005, 07:00 PM	#2
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	get so many backlinks too http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...Flaval ife%2F

05-22-2005, 07:01 PM	#3
Alex So Fucking Banned (YEA!!) Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 10,963	<meta name="keywords" content="Fossil Watches, Fossil Watch, Fossil Men Watches, Fossil Women Watches"> All about the meta tags baby __________________ Care about me? Who? Me! Who?

05-22-2005, 07:02 PM	#4
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	actually it seems something else is going there

05-22-2005, 07:06 PM	#5
pocketkangaroo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 8,452	Well, they have a ton of links coming in. http://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=ut...w.seocount.com 97,000 backlinks. As you can see, most look either purchased, or part of a link network. Nothing shady as far as I can see. However, Google has been cracking down on link networks and paid links a lot.

05-22-2005, 07:10 PM	#8
fireorange Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,648	http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=lin...web-t&toggle=1 Results 1 - 10 of about 98,000 for linkdomain:seocount.com - 0.24 sec.

05-22-2005, 07:13 PM	#9
Chimmy Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 469	But here's where it gets interesting again. In the last 5 minutes I have gone to the first 20 backlinks listed for http://seocount.com/lavalife/ So far, I haven't found this url listed on any of the backlink pages. And according to the dates beside some of the backlinks, these were last updated yesterday.

05-22-2005, 07:15 PM	#10
Chimmy Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 469	O.K., I have now found one common link on many of the pages: http://www.digitalpoint.com/tools/ad-network/ Going to research this one a bit more.

05-22-2005, 08:08 PM	#13
swami Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: vanuatu Posts: 1,989	This is a trick well known amongst seos.These guys are making good use of it.Unfortunately,when used like this it rarely becomes a long term strategy.

05-22-2005, 09:08 PM	#15
spunkmaster Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 2,052	They have a network of cloaked pages and that's why you don't see the actual links on the sites linking to them ! What you see when you view source isn't what the search engines see !

05-22-2005, 09:13 PM	#16
Chimmy Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 469	I don't think it's cloaked pages. I examined each page using "spider simulator" software. But, I do think it has a lot to do with the link found on most of their backlinks, http://www.digitalpoint.com/tools/ad-network/. This is a link trade service that rotates members links at the foot of the page of participating sites. This would explain why I can't find seocount.com's links on any of the backlink pages. They were likely there when google spidered the pages, but not at the moment that I checked them, due to link rotation.