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Juicy D. Links · 05-20-2005, 04:54 PM

100

WOJ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Libertine · 05-20-2005, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Ray

You make the assumption that some sort of block is wanted in the search area. You are assuming that someone is incapable of doing that.

Let me ask you this. If it were your site, would you want the functionality dictated to you by 1% of the people that use your site?

Why would Lensman put an image verification system in front of search that impacts 99% of the legitimate people that use search? I?m sure no one is going to to get upset about that.

The key to a successful GFY is to be accountable for the functionality and take care of the people that make site great. Users shouldn?t have to change the way they interact with the site. Apply your same logic to google.

The way it is right now, it impacts 100% of the legitimate people that use search in a much more annoying way than some simple image verification

goBigtime · 05-20-2005, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by azguy

I assume that makes no sense to you? Obviously that should be the case. If Lensman is okay with SEs that simply publishes 1 or 2 lines as an excerpt and link directly to the thread - than that SE should be permitted to crawl GFY.

It makse sense to me. Because ultimately, it's Lens's board. He makes the rules.
Lensman may be ok with SE's because the SE's give him enough back in order to justify allowing them to spider him. I would think this would work for anyone wanting to spider GFY... if it somehow made sense to Lens and was good for the board overall, why wouldn't he allow it?

So, if he says you can't spider his board, you can't. But he should be able to back that up with some tech skills as well.... because as Ray said, people overseas just assume wipe their ass with any legal documents you send them.

goBigtime · 05-20-2005, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by punkworld

The way it is right now, it impacts 100% of the legitimate people that use search in a much more annoying way than some simple image verification

So true.

For a second there the searches were BLAZING fast. I was thinking they finally had a db specialist come in and hook everything up properly (and by that I mean hardware/software/db). I mean I tried a few searches with the most obscure things that wouldn't have been cached & the results just popped right up. Sick sick sick

I hope they can get themselves back to that point.

Big Ray · 05-20-2005, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by goBigtime

You just need to think about it a little more Ray. If you can't come up with anything, then brainstorm with people who you think can. If they can't, then find some new people to brainstorm with.

But there are plenty of answers to this problem.

If this were 12 months ago, I would have gladly explained some of them to you. I can't give away too many ideas away anymore though. I really wish I could, I enjoy GFY as much as the next guy.

I'll give you a clue though... even if you had image verification on the search 100% of the time, I don't think GFY members would give two fucks about it when faced with your alternative - no search at all.

Maybe you should do VB's image-verification based search as a temporary fix then? Since it's obviously a better solution than no search at all. No?

And this isn't google, so it's illogical to apply the same logic to it.

But maybe you should look to google for solutions for your problem.

This is not a technical problem. I understand you think yourself a great coder (if pontification made it so). We have a few around here as well.

We have a plan for GFY search. It's easy, and won't impact the user experience; however, it takes time to implement.

You, by your own admission above, know that there is more than one solution to these types of problems. You have described ONE WAY to fix this. I respect that. What you?re saying would work TECHNICALLY. If Lensman wants to go that route, then he will instruct us to do so. Until then, we continue to push forward with our plan to fix search. In the meantime, search will remain down as per the instructions of this boards owner while resources are directed at building the new search infrastructure.

I always look at things in the ?big picture? sense. I?m a geek by nature, but maturity and experience has proven that technical issues are not always resolved with technical solutions.

As per Google Search and GFY Search, isn't it kinda the same thing? Do you think google would lose market share if they put an image verification system on the front page of search? And required all users to use it before clicking on a "search"?

Big Ray · 05-20-2005, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by goBigtime

So true.

For a second there the searches were BLAZING fast. I was thinking they finally had a db specialist come in and hook everything up properly (and by that I mean hardware/software/db). I mean I tried a few searches with the most obscure things that wouldn't have been cached & the results just popped right up. Sick sick sick

I hope they can get themselves back to that point.

We will very soon. Things take time to implement. the same people that fixed the problem then are fixing the problem now.

I understand that search being down is impacting users worse than the perceived impact of an image verification system. The question we ask ourselves is the following....

"Do we want to use valuable resources to take a step backwards, to have to go back afterwards and fix the fix?"

The anwer we have made is no.

gecko · 05-20-2005, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

100

WOJ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He is out of order

Big Ray · 05-20-2005, 05:24 PM

I'm out for the night. Off to the city for dinner with friends! Thanks for the good posts and questions.

Babaganoosh · 05-20-2005, 05:26 PM

There's some fucked up logic in this thread. No wonder the search has been shaky for so long.

goBigtime · 05-20-2005, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Ray

As per Google Search and GFY Search, isn't it kinda the same thing? Do you think google would lose market share if they put an image verification system on the front page of search? And required all users to use it before clicking on a "search"?

You're thinking inside the box Ray.

Google already has anti-spider protection built in to their engine. That is why I suggested for you to check out what their solutions are...

Crypt · 05-20-2005, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Ray

You make the assumption that some sort of block is wanted in the search area. You are assuming that someone is incapable of doing that.

Let me ask you this. If it were your site, would you want the functionality dictated to you by 1% of the people that use your site?

Why would Lensman put an image verification system in front of search that impacts 99% of the legitimate people that use search? I?m sure no one is going to to get upset about that.

The key to a successful GFY is to be accountable for the functionality and take care of the people that make site great. Users shouldn?t have to change the way they interact with the site. Apply your same logic to google.

Google use a image verification when you do to much automated query to stop ppl like notjoe

Just use a image verification after 25 search or shit like that , no one will care except Notjoe

goBigtime · 05-20-2005, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Crypt

Google use a image verification when you do to much automated query to stop ppl like notjoe

notjoe · 05-20-2005, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Crypt

Google use a image verification when you do to much automated query to stop ppl like notjoe

Just use a image verification after 25 search or shit like that , no one will care except Notjoe

thats what my search is up and running while theirs is down?

try again troll

will76 · 05-20-2005, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

Is it OK to walk into a Library and say hey..

"Ya mind if I use your paper and your ink and start copying all the books in this place?
OK great, go ahead and start with shelf "A-B" move all the people away from that area and get all the books for that section. I dont care if people want to read this shit I am copying it and archiving it"

Your going to get one pissed off librarian and the cops will be on your ass for copying books that do not belong to you.

your struggling... library owns books, authors own reproduction rights to the text (stories). Neither apply here. GFY does not own your post (thoughts, words etc..) and you are not copy righting them either if anything you are doing the opposite by displaying them to the general public.

Crypt · 05-20-2005, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by notjoe

thats what my search is up and running while theirs is down?

try again troll

Troll? ok ;)

goBigtime · 05-20-2005, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by notjoe

thats what my search is up and running while theirs is down?

try again troll

Well... they are saying "You" * 100 Joe... not just you.

notjoe · 05-20-2005, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by goBigtime

Well... they are saying "You" * 100 Joe... not just you.

I just dont want people to think it was me nor my program who caused any of these issues/problems...if anything i'd like to think that i've helped out by providing a "FREE" service to members so that they dont need to spider the board(s).

seeric · 05-20-2005, 06:04 PM

Sweet!

my apologies for calling the admins "assweenies!"

LMAO

sorry JT! hehe.

Cavello · 05-20-2005, 06:42 PM

Juisy for mod! well maybe..

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-20-2005, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

your struggling... library owns books, authors own reproduction rights to the text (stories). Neither apply here. GFY does not own your post (thoughts, words etc..) and you are not copy righting them either if anything you are doing the opposite by displaying them to the general public.

fireorange · 05-20-2005, 06:51 PM

SearchTheBoards sucked, there were weeks were indexing stopped and he failed to sell it

notjoe

will76 · 05-20-2005, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Will76

and you are not copy righting them either if anything you are doing the opposite by displaying them to the general public.

if you think you make a post here and it is copyrighted then you are as dumb as everyone thinks you are. When someone PUBLISHES a book or magazine article or Associated press stories those are copyrighted. Also all of those things are sold to people, no one is purchasing anything here and Lensman does not own your post nor is he copyrighting it. People who post on public messageboards are not protected and they don't need your promission to copy your text and post it someone else. you really are clueless to this.

notjoe · 05-20-2005, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by fireorange

SearchTheBoards sucked, there were weeks were indexing stopped and he failed to sell it

notjoe

No one forced you to use it. As you notice dealing with 5 or 6 million posts is a challange for the crew of GFY admins...just imagine working with 12-14 million posts and having the ability to scale to hunreds of millions if not billions of posts.

As for my "failed" attempt of selling it why dont you search for the thread...ohh thats right you cant ... I turned down 10k offers you moron

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-20-2005, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

if you think you make a post here and it is copyrighted then you are as dumb as everyone thinks you are. When someone PUBLISHES a book or magazine article or Associated press stories those are copyrighted. Also all of those things are sold to people, no one is purchasing anything here and Lensman does not own your post nor is he copyrighting it. People who post on public messageboards are not protected and they don't need your promission to copy your text and post it someone else. you really are clueless to this.

When I type and express my words and thoughts they are my words and thoughts. Mine.
People buy ad space here.
Lens does own the post no. But he Keeps it under his roof err likes to or tries to. He knows the value of this think tank.

If ya know Copyright Law technically it does apply to the web medium to a degree. Even here.

Bottom line is. It's Lensmans house not yours, not mine and he can pick and choose whom or what will access this site.

I might not like it, you might not like it but it's his house.

Ya can bank on that.

Red Ezra · 05-20-2005, 07:18 PM

i like gfy - even without the search - never worked long enough to get used to it - either way still loyal to gfy - thanks lens

Cory W · 05-20-2005, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Ray

We will very soon. Things take time to implement. the same people that fixed the problem then are fixing the problem now.

I understand that search being down is impacting users worse than the perceived impact of an image verification system. The question we ask ourselves is the following....

"Do we want to use valuable resources to take a step backwards, to have to go back afterwards and fix the fix?"

The anwer we have made is no.

I love you Ray.

In the straight way.

Serge Litehead · 05-20-2005, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Ray

You make the assumption that some sort of block is wanted in the search area. You are assuming that someone is incapable of doing that.

Let me ask you this. If it were your site, would you want the functionality dictated to you by 1% of the people that use your site?

Why would Lensman put an image verification system in front of search that impacts 99% of the legitimate people that use search? I?m sure no one is going to to get upset about that.

The key to a successful GFY is to be accountable for the functionality and take care of the people that make site great. Users shouldn?t have to change the way they interact with the site. Apply your same logic to google.

This post is politically correct and also very contradicting.
Is it best to block the functionality to 100% of people? make a vote see what people want.. you rather block access to everyone while you looking for a solution than changing the way we interact with the site? doesn't make much sense.

Serge Litehead · 05-20-2005, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Ray

As per Google Search and GFY Search, isn't it kinda the same thing? Do you think google would lose market share if they put an image verification system on the front page of search? And required all users to use it before clicking on a "search"?

fireorange · 05-20-2005, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by notjoe

As for my "failed" attempt of selling it why dont you search for the thread...ohh thats right you cant ... I turned down 10k offers you moron

Good thing it didn't sell, it's worthless now

12clicks · 05-20-2005, 07:48 PM

the spider story doesn't hold water.

notjoe · 05-20-2005, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by fireorange

Good thing it didn't sell, it's worthless now

Thats why i got an offer of 3k for just the domain name eh?

fireorange · 05-20-2005, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by notjoe

Thats why i got an offer of 3k for just the domain name eh?

Listen script kiddie, your time has not been wasted on STB, you can use all those skills to code a TGP hitbot now

Spunky · 05-20-2005, 07:56 PM

Understandable..we shall survive

notjoe · 05-20-2005, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

the spider story doesn't hold water.

The only thing which could hold any water is people writing scripts to use the search function to check for new posts which their keyword(s) were mentioned in, which has absolutely nothing to do with me nor search the boards...Yet isnt that exactly the type of service i provide and who those people running their scripts would rather use instead of killing the board weekly?

A SERVICE to generate alerts so that people dont need to keep hitting the GFY search function to generate their own alerts.. ohh the irony.. Currently there is 132 users monitoring 160+ different keyword alerts. Thats probably -20-50 people right there that arent running a script which uses the GFY search function...

notjoe · 05-20-2005, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by fireorange

Listen script kiddie, your time has not been wasted on STB, you can use all those skills to code a TGP hitbot now

*yawn* you've grown boring my trollish friend

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-20-2005, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

the spider story doesn't hold water.

It sure does...

Water on water off.

fireorange · 05-20-2005, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by notjoe

*yawn* you've grown boring my trollish friend

Give it up, why keep this thread alive longer?

It's banned, end of fucking story, SearchTheBoards? Dead as an Arab Suicide Bomber. Now get back to gallery submitting or whatever the fuck you do

SureFire · 05-20-2005, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

When I type and express my words and thoughts they are my words and thoughts. Mine.
People buy ad space here.
Lens does own the post no. But he Keeps it under his roof err likes to or tries to. He knows the value of this think tank.

If ya know Copyright Law technically it does apply to the web medium to a degree. Even here.

Bottom line is. It's Lensmans house not yours, not mine and he can pick and choose whom or what will access this site.

I might not like it, you might not like it but it's his house.

Ya can bank on that.

Bank on what?

Serge Litehead · 05-20-2005, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by fireorange

Give it up, why keep this thread alive longer?

It's banned, end of fucking story, SearchTheBoards? Dead as an Arab Suicide Bomber. Now get back to gallery submitting or whatever the fuck you do

I dont think he has a problem with STB being banned by GFY

SureFire · 05-20-2005, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

the spider story doesn't hold water.

Nor to me, care to explain?

azguy · 05-20-2005, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SureFire

Bank on what?

AlienQ is just trying to secure a guaranteed unban from Lensman in case the situation presents itself again.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-20-2005, 08:17 PM

The itsy bitsy spider

Crawled up the water spout

Down came the rain

And washed the spider out

Out came the sun

And dried up all the rain

And the itsy bitsy spider

Crawled up the spout again.

NaughtyRob · 05-20-2005, 08:18 PM

Thanks for the explaination although not needed.

josian · 05-20-2005, 08:18 PM

Contact me Lens, I have a way to avoid that quick and easy.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-20-2005, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by azguy

AlienQ is just trying to secure a guaranteed unban from Lensman in case the situation presents itself again.

LOL.
I am to valuable go full perma ban.
I am great content.
He knows it I know it everyone knows it.

I can gurantee I will be banned again.
Who knows when.
But it will happen.

notjoe · 05-20-2005, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by holograph

I dont think he has a problem with STB being banned by GFY

Dont feed the trolls, they'll come back like wild animals

notjoe · 05-20-2005, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

I can gurantee I will be banned again.
Who knows when.
But it will happen.

Not soon enough and when it does happen it wont be for long enough ;)

Theo · 05-20-2005, 08:25 PM

this board needs AlienQ as moderator
and im serious on this.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-20-2005, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by notjoe

Not soon enough and when it does happen it wont be for long enough ;)

Fix your sig and get with the program man.
Dayum...
Ya act like he shot your baby or somthing.

notjoe · 05-20-2005, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

Fix your sig and get with the program man.
Dayum...
Ya act like he shot your baby or somthing.

Why dont you go take a walk beyond the israel border while screaming "I'm a jew I'm a jew"

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