StudioCash chooses Partnership over PPS model. - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

Rich · 05-06-2005, 12:47 PM

Edit: 51 threads gone wrong. Damn woj post bot.

Good Lord this thread got ugly. I'm actually hoping for him to send this to everyone on his ICQ list so we can get a couple positive comments in here.

Roald · 05-06-2005, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by NichePay - StuartD

In my opinion, a program that is just starting out should be only revshare... unless they have huge financial backings.

A program jumps immediately into the $25 and up payouts for each trial or month they get someone joined will do well, but not at first. The first few months, all the way up to a year.. maybe even more can be very hard to be profitable.

Sometimes you people forget that just because someone opens their doors and tries to get you promoting them, it doesn't mean that they unlimited resources and can promise you the world. You want 6 million free hosted galleries, free hosted paysites, exclusive content to only you and want to make $600 per sale on a $1 trial.... well, it just isn't going to happen from a company that is just getting their roots planted.

A-fucking-men

Rice_Master · 05-06-2005, 12:51 PM

i can't help but feel bad for SC lol

no matter what they do, it always seems like they're fucking up one way or another... Xgape isn't all that impressive IMO, it just looks like another DeluxePass archive.

quiet · 05-06-2005, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

Shit waders on sale... $25 a pair. Contact me for details.

Alex From San Diego · 05-06-2005, 01:51 PM

Definitely a kiss of death if going from PPS to revshare. Even if one does have the financial backing to launch from the start with a PPS model, it is always best to start from the revshare model if you are new to having a program. Learn and adjust your sites accordingly until you truly have numbers that make sense and you know you can pay on a per signup basis. There is no guarantee just because you launch a new site, that it will work. I'll bet for every good site within a PPS program, they also have a poor site that breaks even or even loses money.

For now, we leave the PPS programs to guys like Bradshaw, Marc De and the list goes on because they are established and are seasoned with this type of model. With that said, we are just around the corner from offering PPS on our sites and a handful of new sites but it hasn't been something that has happened overnight.

Metaform, I'm sure you are a good guy but just by the way your posts are written, I get the impression that you are way over your head. Take baby steps and grow from there. You will be thankful you did 1-2 years from now.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-06-2005, 02:04 PM

Jumping right into PPS is totaly financial suicide if your a noob affiliate program owner.

Rui · 05-06-2005, 02:32 PM

I think that the saddest thing about this whole StudioCash hype was that it was given much importance to the sites themselfs, I mean most programs work in BRANDING what they offer not only their fucking program name.

Ad to that lots of indecisions and going-back decisions and wel....goodluck

Dirty F · 05-06-2005, 02:34 PM

Like usual he ignores this all, lets the thread die and in 2 weeks he has another "anouncement" about most like a price change or some other bullcrap.

JSA Matt · 05-06-2005, 02:39 PM

Dare I use Stupidcash.com as an example?

pradaboy · 05-06-2005, 02:40 PM

oh man... I thought StudioCash would be the best thing to hit the industry in years, now it turns out you can't even offer PPS next to revshare?

things that make you go hmmmmmmmmm

Veterans Day · 05-06-2005, 02:42 PM

what happened, were did he go

Its taken him 2.5 years to build this brand and his 1 site, give the guy some slack

Rorschach · 05-06-2005, 02:49 PM

wow great thread... what a reaming.

xxxdesign-net · 05-06-2005, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaformX

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The smart webmaster who has a long term approach already knows that a partnership model is the smartest choice. You will make more money with a partnership, make no mistake about that,

We know GFY is full of sheeps but damn.. you should try to be a bit more subtle when trying to manipulate them... lol

For an affiliate, SOME sites will do best with revshare ... while a boat load will do much better with PPS... especially when joins are coming from TGP traffic... and the payout is $35+

Why dont you give your affiliates the choice instead of telling them how they should think..!?

Or just admit you cannot handle the PPS model right now..

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-06-2005, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Veterans Day

what happened, were did he go

Its taken him 2.5 years to build this brand and his 1 site, give the guy some slack

Thats what I am saying.

The Metaform is okies with me, but face it, he is new at what he is doing.
Like 1/2 the people in the thread even have or run an affiliate program...
NOT!

Pah leeese.
Fuck da haters Metaform. Do your thing, no one else will do it for ya but they will pose and posture like they got it altogether.

xxxdesign-net · 05-06-2005, 03:06 PM

btw.. were you paying $35 per trial sign up.. or paying $35 on $39 signups.. ?

DWB · 05-06-2005, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by NichePay - StuartD

In my opinion, a program that is just starting out should be only revshare... unless they have huge financial backings.

A program jumps immediately into the $25 and up payouts for each trial or month they get someone joined will do well, but not at first. The first few months, all the way up to a year.. maybe even more can be very hard to be profitable.

Sometimes you people forget that just because someone opens their doors and tries to get you promoting them, it doesn't mean that they unlimited resources and can promise you the world. You want 6 million free hosted galleries, free hosted paysites, exclusive content to only you and want to make $600 per sale on a $1 trial.... well, it just isn't going to happen from a company that is just getting their roots planted.

I concur.

Snake Doctor · 05-06-2005, 04:19 PM

MetaformX's sig button is going to give me a seizure. I can't read his threads anymore.

pornstar2pac · 05-06-2005, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NichePay - StuartD

In my opinion, a program that is just starting out should be only revshare... unless they have huge financial backings.

A program jumps immediately into the $25 and up payouts for each trial or month they get someone joined will do well, but not at first. The first few months, all the way up to a year.. maybe even more can be very hard to be profitable.

Sometimes you people forget that just because someone opens their doors and tries to get you promoting them, it doesn't mean that they unlimited resources and can promise you the world. You want 6 million free hosted galleries, free hosted paysites, exclusive content to only you and want to make $600 per sale on a $1 trial.... well, it just isn't going to happen from a company that is just getting their roots planted.

no one asked for your opinion

MetaformX · 05-06-2005, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Trax

thread gone wrong lol

let me translate it:
If a program goes from PPS to revshare this means the sites suck, don't retain and don't make the owner any money... that means I would not even bother sending you traffic to the revsh solution either because they can not retain the surfer....

THAT EASY

Most of you who responded do not have a clue, saying this is the kiss of death.

Let me explain this for you so you understand the situation.

We have NEVER offered PPS, we are not all of a sudden switching from PPS to revshare. We are in beta mode, and from the start have offered a per active payout model.

The plan was to offer either revshare or PPS after the beta. I have decided on revshare.

For some reason though, I see the same haters in every one of my threads. I love it. This is exactly what I wanted when I made this thread.

You know the saying about controvercy....guess what? It's true. Thanks haters, keep it up and give us more affiliates.

sandman! · 05-06-2005, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaformX

Most of you who responded do not have a clue, saying this is the kiss of death.

Let me explain this for you so you understand the situation.

We have NEVER offered PPS, we are not all of a sudden switching from PPS to revshare. We are in beta mode, and from the start have offered a per active payout model.

The plan was to offer either revshare or PPS after the beta. I have decided on revshare.

For some reason though, I see the same haters in every one of my threads. I love it. This is exactly what I wanted when I made this thread.

You know the saying about controvercy....guess what? It's true. Thanks haters, keep it up and give us more affiliates.

i dont hate you and got nothing against you your probably a nice guy but $25 per active is a joke and switching from per active to revshare tells me your sites are not retaining well.

Alex From San Diego · 05-06-2005, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaformX

Most of you who responded do not have a clue, saying this is the kiss of death.

Let me explain this for you so you understand the situation.

We have NEVER offered PPS, we are not all of a sudden switching from PPS to revshare. We are in beta mode, and from the start have offered a per active payout model.

The plan was to offer either revshare or PPS after the beta. I have decided on revshare.

For some reason though, I see the same haters in every one of my threads. I love it. This is exactly what I wanted when I made this thread.

You know the saying about controvercy....guess what? It's true. Thanks haters, keep it up and give us more affiliates.

MetaformX,

You need to learn how to take constructive criticism. I just joined your site for a buck and immediately cancelled. If you would like to learn more on why I cancelled let me know by hitting me up on ICQ: 74296267

You are making some very basic mistakes and trust me when I say this. Your site will not retain its members with the mistakes you are currently making.

Theo · 05-06-2005, 05:44 PM

Meta, take Alex's offer before he regrets it

MetaformX · 05-06-2005, 05:46 PM

By the time I am done, the jealous hater and his mother will be sending traffic to StudioCash. Cause even jealous haters can't pass up money.

And here is todays admin stats for the entire program. Put this in your pipe and smoke it haters.

I really love it when people come in here and tell me I don't know what I am doing. Does your program do 1 in 412 first page hits with all kinds of traffic combined?

MetaformX · 05-06-2005, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by sandman!

i dont hate you and got nothing against you your probably a nice guy but $25 per active is a joke and switching from per active to revshare tells me your sites are not retaining well.

Once again, you guys have your facts wrong.

It is $35 per active currently, not $25.

We are retaining at 33% right now. That is the industry average in case you did not know. The site is brand new, and were making changes to it on a weekly basis, so that will improve. And were gonna do whatever it takes to increase that 33% average.

JSA Matt · 05-06-2005, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaformX

By the time I am done, the jealous hater and his mother will be sending traffic to StudioCash. Cause even jealous haters can't pass up money.

And here is todays admin stats for the entire program. Put this in your pipe and smoke it haters.

I really love it when people come in here and tell me I don't know what I am doing. Does your program do 1 in 412 first page hits with all kinds of traffic combined?

xGape does over 200 signups a day?

MetaformX · 05-06-2005, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex From San Diego

MetaformX,

You need to learn how to take constructive criticism. I just joined your site for a buck and immediately cancelled. If you would like to learn more on why I cancelled let me know by hitting me up on ICQ: 74296267

You are making some very basic mistakes and trust me when I say this. Your site will not retain its members with the mistakes you are currently making.

Alex, thanks bro, can I take a rain check on that and hit you up tomorow?

MetaformX · 05-06-2005, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JSA Matt

xGape does over 200 signups a day?

Yes, thats trials + rebills combined. Mostly trials though.

Trax · 05-06-2005, 05:53 PM

$35 per active?? jesus... the guys sending you traffic must be clueless lol

Theo · 05-06-2005, 05:53 PM

that's a lot of greek surfers

MetaformX · 05-06-2005, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel

that's a lot of greek surfers

The greeks love the Anal bro, you know that!

MetaformX · 05-06-2005, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Trax

$35 per active?? jesus... the guys sending you traffic must be clueless lol

No, they like the site we offer and the program, they are not clueless, and they have voiced their opinion to me about their dislike with the per active model, which is why we are changing to revshare.

One thing no one here understands is we are in BETA MODE. There is a reason it is called Beta mode. That is so we can test stuff and find the method that works best for our webmasters and us.

But I guess everyone would rather I just do the same thing everyone else does. Innovation be damned.

QuaWee · 05-06-2005, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Veterans Day

what happened, were did he go

Its taken him 2.5 years to build this brand and his 1 site, give the guy some slack

Sly · 05-06-2005, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaformX

No, they like the site we offer and the program, they are not clueless, and they have voiced their opinion to me about their dislike with the per active model, which is why we are changing to revshare.

One thing no one here understands is we are in BETA MODE. There is a reason it is called Beta mode. That is so we can test stuff and find the method that works best for our webmasters and us.

But I guess everyone would rather I just do the same thing everyone else does. Innovation be damned.

Between rev-share and per active, I would want rev-share too.

I don't understand why you get all pissy about people voicing their opinions and concerns. You start these threads. You're asking for input. You get it, then call everyone "haters" for stating the obvious.

MetaformX · 05-06-2005, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ

Thats what I am saying.

Pah leeese.
Fuck da haters Metaform. Do your thing, no one else will do it for ya but they will pose and posture like they got it altogether.

Thanks Alien, I agree bro.

These guys like Franck, Rich, Crypt, European Lee are like a "hating MetaformX groupie". They just follow me around and the second StudioCash is mentioned, come in here and spit BS.

Why do they feel like they have to put me down? Are they that desperate for fake drama?

MetaformX · 05-06-2005, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

Between rev-share and per active, I would want rev-share too.

I don't understand why you get all pissy about people voicing their opinions and concerns. You start these threads. You're asking for input. You get it, then call everyone "haters" for stating the obvious.

I don't think I get pissy at all, never once have I resorted to name calling or anything of that sorts or gone off the handle. Read all my replies, every one of them is a rational response.

I call them haters because that is what they are. Look at the people in this thread who are talking shit (Rich, Crypt, European Lee, Franck) they are the same exact people who just follow me around and talk shit about StudioCash. Anytime StudioCash is mentioned, they are there.

They are haters plain and simple. What should I call them? All they do is just be negative about everything. If news broke that StudioCash just cured cancer, they will still hate becaus it's StudioCash.

Why do they hate? Because they are trying to get their own names out there by creating drama around StudioCash because it's a well known name.

But I like the haters, they serve a purpose for me.

mortenb · 05-06-2005, 06:16 PM

I don't think I have ever posted in one of your threads, so I probably don't qualify as a hater, but I see the points they are making.

One of them asked why you didn't let the affiliate choose between PPS and partnership if you know you can make money with both models. I too would like to hear an answer to this question. Is seems to me that you would make your program more attractive if you let the affiliates choose for themselves.. Why not do this?

Crypt · 05-06-2005, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaformX

Thanks Alien, I agree bro.

These guys like Franck, Rich, Crypt, European Lee are like a "hating MetaformX groupie". They just follow me around and the second StudioCash is mentioned, come in here and spit BS.

Why do they feel like they have to put me down? Are they that desperate for fake drama?

Split BS? LOL

Man you are a fucking liar , simple as that.

Stop the bullshit with ppl you try to get for affiliates.

Rui · 05-06-2005, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaformX

I really love it when people come in here and tell me I don't know what I am doing. Does your program do 1 in 412 first page hits with all kinds of traffic combined?

Stupid question to say the least...

btw most people here don't hate you man..more like they pity you on your constant indecisions and mistakes...

MetaformX · 05-06-2005, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mortenb

I don't think I have ever posted in one of your threads, so I probably don't qualify as a hater, but I see the points they are making.

One of them asked why you didn't let the affiliate choose between PPS and partnership if you know you can make money with both models. I too would like to hear an answer to this question. Is seems to me that you would make your program more attractive if you let the affiliates choose for themselves.. Why not do this?

No, I only consider the 4 that I mentioned as StudioCash haters, not anyone who has a question or concern. Those 4 just go around bashing StudioCash no matter what I say. They are on auto bash.

To answer your question, we will give the affiliates the choice between PPS or revshare down the line, just not right away.

For now, we will start with revshare.

J B · 05-06-2005, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaformX

One thing no one here understands is we are in BETA MODE. There is a reason it is called Beta mode. That is so we can test stuff and find the method that works best for our webmasters and us.

Beta is usually done in private and you don't announce every step you make. The purpose of beta testing is to provide a working product/service once you make a public release

MetaformX · 05-06-2005, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rui

Stupid question to say the least...

btw most people here don't hate you man..more like they pity you on your constant indecisions and mistakes...

The pitty is appreciated, I mean really, but I do just find thank you very much. But thanks anyways!

mortenb · 05-06-2005, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaformX

No, I only consider the 4 that I mentioned as StudioCash haters, not anyone who has a question or concern. Those 4 just go around bashing StudioCash no matter what I say. They are on auto bash.

To answer your question, we will give the affiliates the choice between PPS or revshare down the line, just not right away.

For now, we will start with revshare.

That's just it. That doesn't answer the question. You say that you can make money using both models.. Then I can't understand your reasoning for not offering both models to your affiliates..
I understand that you have chosen it, but from your previous statements, it seems like shooting yourself in the foot.

MetaformX · 05-06-2005, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by J B

Beta is usually done in private and you don't announce every step you make. The purpose of beta testing is to provide a working product/service once you make a public release

So we should not tell our webmasters and potential affiliates what our payout model is? We should keep that a secret?

But I agree with the purpose of a beta, which is what we are doing.

MetaformX · 05-06-2005, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mortenb

That's just it. That doesn't answer the question. You say that you can make money using both models.. Then I can't understand your reasoning for not offering both models to your affiliates..
I understand that you have chosen it, but from your previous statements, it seems like shooting yourself in the foot.

Ok, your question if fair. Lets put it this way. If we want to offer both a PPS and revshare, that means I have to put in the infrastructure for a PPS model, which means cross sells, exits up the wazzoo, and other 'shady' things. I don't want to do that and would rather keep things straight forward with a simple revshare model for now. Does that answer your question?

MetaformX · 05-06-2005, 06:32 PM

Time for some drinks, will check this thread tomorow.

J B · 05-06-2005, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaformX

So we should not tell our webmasters and potential affiliates what our payout model is? We should keep that a secret?

But I agree with the purpose of a beta, which is what we are doing.

I'm not telling you what you should do or shouldn't do, that's entirely your business. I was just stating my opinion on what beta testing means and how it's usually done

Crypt · 05-06-2005, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaformX

Ok, your question if fair. Lets put it this way. If we want to offer both a PPS and revshare, that means I have to put in the infrastructure for a PPS model, which means cross sells, exits up the wazzoo, and other 'shady' things. I don't want to do that and would rather keep things straight forward with a simple revshare model for now. Does that answer your question?

Finally its your choice, and not a request from affiliates to do more money like you said before. lol

Bullshit #348

Re-read your old bullshit before starting new one , its worst everytime.

BTW, its not againt your program , its more about how YOU do things, and lie to everyone to get accepted. Dont try to start on top of the building if you cant. Do like everyone, start on the bottom and climb.

Snake Doctor · 05-06-2005, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaformX

I really love it when people come in here and tell me I don't know what I am doing. Does your program do 1 in 412 first page hits with all kinds of traffic combined?

Mine does, easily.
We also convert over 40% of our trials to monthly memberships. And 20% of new signups opt for the monthly option initially.

Also, I'm curious about this

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaformX

Yes, thats trials + rebills combined. Mostly trials though.

You're counting rebills as sales when calculating your 1 in 412 ratio? If so your ratio is alot worse than that.

Tempest · 05-06-2005, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaformX

StudioCash conversions have been nothing short of amazing so far, but with an Active member payout model, many of our webmasters have told us that they wanted something more.

So, after much testing and tweaking, and comparing of different payout models, we have decided that a 50/50 partnership would best serve our webmasters in the long run.

Of course there is a reason why most affiliate programs go with a PPS model and not a Partnership. The reason is because the PPS model makes the most money for the PROGRAM. It is a numbers game, and if done right, there is no doubt that PPS is more profitable. The numbers don't lie.

We however are taking a different approach. I want to create a partnership program that makes it quite evident and clear to the webmaster that he/she can make more money with a partnership program over a PPS.

I have a simple outlook on the difference between a partnership program and a PPS program. With a Partnership program, you are a partner. With a PPS program, you are an employee.

The smart webmaster who has a long term approach already knows that a partnership model is the smartest choice. You will make more money with a partnership, make no mistake about that, and my goal is to make StudioCash the best Partnership program on the net.

This is our Anal site xGape that you will be able to promote on a partnership

We will be releasing our Interracial site shortly.

Our move to the partnership model will take place next week.

Who the fuck cares.. Now if you came on her and announced a 60% or 70% revshare model, that might be interesting.. But coming on here and announcing that you made a fucking decision.. Jeez.. What sort of lame as fuck mangement are you?? Grow a sack or something.. I couldn't care less if you succeed or fail.. But stop being such a lame ass looking for the approval of your peers... You get it by making decisive decisions and making people some fucking money...

05-06-2005, 12:45 PM	#51
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05-06-2005, 01:51 PM	#56
Alex From San Diego Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: San Diego Posts: 1,642	Definitely a kiss of death if going from PPS to revshare. Even if one does have the financial backing to launch from the start with a PPS model, it is always best to start from the revshare model if you are new to having a program. Learn and adjust your sites accordingly until you truly have numbers that make sense and you know you can pay on a per signup basis. There is no guarantee just because you launch a new site, that it will work. I'll bet for every good site within a PPS program, they also have a poor site that breaks even or even loses money. For now, we leave the PPS programs to guys like Bradshaw, Marc De and the list goes on because they are established and are seasoned with this type of model. With that said, we are just around the corner from offering PPS on our sites and a handful of new sites but it hasn't been something that has happened overnight. Metaform, I'm sure you are a good guy but just by the way your posts are written, I get the impression that you are way over your head. Take baby steps and grow from there. You will be thankful you did 1-2 years from now. __________________ We are what we repeatedly do.-Aristotle

05-06-2005, 02:04 PM	#57
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	Jumping right into PPS is totaly financial suicide if your a noob affiliate program owner. __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

05-06-2005, 02:40 PM	#61
pradaboy sell me your banners Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: on the tubes Posts: 12,931	oh man... I thought StudioCash would be the best thing to hit the industry in years, now it turns out you can't even offer PPS next to revshare? things that make you go hmmmmmmmmm __________________ Media Buyer - Sell me your traffic! FREE to register domains... Better than 99% of the crap sold here!

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05-06-2005, 12:47 PM	#52
Rich So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,486	Edit: 51 threads gone wrong. Damn woj post bot. Good Lord this thread got ugly. I'm actually hoping for him to send this to everyone on his ICQ list so we can get a couple positive comments in here.

05-06-2005, 12:51 PM	#54
Rice_Master Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 1,582	i can't help but feel bad for SC lol no matter what they do, it always seems like they're fucking up one way or another... Xgape isn't all that impressive IMO, it just looks like another DeluxePass archive.

05-06-2005, 02:32 PM	#58
Rui web Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: On icq: 85-483-060 Posts: 9,533	I think that the saddest thing about this whole StudioCash hype was that it was given much importance to the sites themselfs, I mean most programs work in BRANDING what they offer not only their fucking program name. Ad to that lots of indecisions and going-back decisions and wel....goodluck

05-06-2005, 02:34 PM	#59
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Like usual he ignores this all, lets the thread die and in 2 weeks he has another "anouncement" about most like a price change or some other bullcrap.

05-06-2005, 02:39 PM	#60
JSA Matt So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 5,464	Dare I use Stupidcash.com as an example?

05-06-2005, 02:49 PM	#63
Rorschach So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 5,579	wow great thread... what a reaming.

05-06-2005, 03:06 PM	#66
xxxdesign-net My hips don't lie Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 10,129	btw.. were you paying $35 per trial sign up.. or paying $35 on $39 signups.. ?

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Snake Doctor I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox Posts: 13,449	MetaformX's sig button is going to give me a seizure. I can't read his threads anymore. __________________ sig too big

05-06-2005, 05:44 PM	#73
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	Meta, take Alex's offer before he regrets it

05-06-2005, 05:46 PM	#74
MetaformX Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 6,704	By the time I am done, the jealous hater and his mother will be sending traffic to StudioCash. Cause even jealous haters can't pass up money. And here is todays admin stats for the entire program. Put this in your pipe and smoke it haters. I really love it when people come in here and tell me I don't know what I am doing. Does your program do 1 in 412 first page hits with all kinds of traffic combined? __________________

05-06-2005, 05:53 PM	#79
Trax [----------------------] Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,486	$35 per active?? jesus... the guys sending you traffic must be clueless lol

05-06-2005, 06:16 PM	#87
mortenb Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Denmark ICQ: 7880009 Posts: 2,203	I don't think I have ever posted in one of your threads, so I probably don't qualify as a hater, but I see the points they are making. One of them asked why you didn't let the affiliate choose between PPS and partnership if you know you can make money with both models. I too would like to hear an answer to this question. Is seems to me that you would make your program more attractive if you let the affiliates choose for themselves.. Why not do this?

05-06-2005, 06:32 PM	#96
MetaformX Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 6,704	Time for some drinks, will check this thread tomorow. __________________