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Good Lord this thread got ugly. I'm actually hoping for him to send this to everyone on his ICQ list so we can get a couple positive comments in here.Comment
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i can't help but feel bad for SC lol
no matter what they do, it always seems like they're fucking up one way or another... Xgape isn't all that impressive IMO, it just looks like another DeluxePass archive.Icq: 31706665Comment
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Originally posted by Sly
we'll miss you our friend. RIPComment
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Definitely a kiss of death if going from PPS to revshare. Even if one does have the financial backing to launch from the start with a PPS model, it is always best to start from the revshare model if you are new to having a program. Learn and adjust your sites accordingly until you truly have numbers that make sense and you know you can pay on a per signup basis. There is no guarantee just because you launch a new site, that it will work. I'll bet for every good site within a PPS program, they also have a poor site that breaks even or even loses money.
For now, we leave the PPS programs to guys like Bradshaw, Marc De and the list goes on because they are established and are seasoned with this type of model. With that said, we are just around the corner from offering PPS on our sites and a handful of new sites but it hasn't been something that has happened overnight.
Metaform, I'm sure you are a good guy but just by the way your posts are written, I get the impression that you are way over your head. Take baby steps and grow from there. You will be thankful you did 1-2 years from now.We are what we repeatedly do.-AristotleComment
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Jumping right into PPS is totaly financial suicide if your a noob affiliate program owner.
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I think that the saddest thing about this whole StudioCash hype was that it was given much importance to the sites themselfs, I mean most programs work in BRANDING what they offer not only their fucking program name.
Ad to that lots of indecisions and going-back decisions and wel....goodluckComment
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Like usual he ignores this all, lets the thread die and in 2 weeks he has another "anouncement" about most like a price change or some other bullcrap.Comment
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Dare I use Stupidcash.com as an example?Comment
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oh man... I thought StudioCash would be the best thing to hit the industry in years, now it turns out you can't even offer PPS next to revshare?
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what happened, were did he go Its taken him 2.5 years to build this brand and his 1 site, give the guy some slack
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wow great thread... what a reaming.Comment
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Originally posted by MetaformX We know GFY is full of sheeps but damn.. you should try to be a bit more subtle when trying to manipulate them... lol
For an affiliate, SOME sites will do best with revshare ... while a boat load will do much better with PPS... especially when joins are coming from TGP traffic... and the payout is $35+
Why dont you give your affiliates the choice instead of telling them how they should think..!?
Or just admit you cannot handle the PPS model right now..Last edited by xxxdesign-net; 05-06-2005, 01:53 PM.Comment
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Thats what I am saying.Originally posted by Veterans Daywhat happened, were did he go Its taken him 2.5 years to build this brand and his 1 site, give the guy some slack
The Metaform is okies with me, but face it, he is new at what he is doing.
Like 1/2 the people in the thread even have or run an affiliate program...
NOT!
Pah leeese.
Fuck da haters Metaform. Do your thing, no one else will do it for ya but they will pose and posture like they got it altogether.
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btw.. were you paying $35 per trial sign up.. or paying $35 on $39 signups.. ?Comment
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I concur.Originally posted by NichePay - StuartDComment
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MetaformX's sig button is going to give me a seizure. I can't read his threads anymore.sig too bigComment
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Originally posted by NichePay - StuartD
no one asked for your opinionTrump haters gonna hate. that's all they can doComment
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Most of you who responded do not have a clue, saying this is the kiss of death.Originally posted by Traxthread gone wrong lol
let me translate it:
If a program goes from PPS to revshare this means the sites suck, don't retain and don't make the owner any money... that means I would not even bother sending you traffic to the revsh solution either because they can not retain the surfer....
THAT EASY
Let me explain this for you so you understand the situation.
We have NEVER offered PPS, we are not all of a sudden switching from PPS to revshare. We are in beta mode, and from the start have offered a per active payout model.
The plan was to offer either revshare or PPS after the beta. I have decided on revshare.
For some reason though, I see the same haters in every one of my threads. I love it. This is exactly what I wanted when I made this thread.
You know the saying about controvercy....guess what? It's true. Thanks haters, keep it up and give us more affiliates.
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i dont hate you and got nothing against you your probably a nice guy but $25 per active is a joke and switching from per active to revshare tells me your sites are not retaining well.Originally posted by MetaformXNeed WebHosting ? Email me for some great deals [email protected]Comment
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MetaformX,Originally posted by MetaformX
You need to learn how to take constructive criticism. I just joined your site for a buck and immediately cancelled. If you would like to learn more on why I cancelled let me know by hitting me up on ICQ: 74296267
You are making some very basic mistakes and trust me when I say this. Your site will not retain its members with the mistakes you are currently making.We are what we repeatedly do.-AristotleComment
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Meta, take Alex's offer before he regrets it
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By the time I am done, the jealous hater and his mother will be sending traffic to StudioCash. Cause even jealous haters can't pass up money.
And here is todays admin stats for the entire program. Put this in your pipe and smoke it haters.
I really love it when people come in here and tell me I don't know what I am doing. Does your program do 1 in 412 first page hits with all kinds of traffic combined?Comment
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Originally posted by sandman!
Once again, you guys have your facts wrong.
It is $35 per active currently, not $25.
We are retaining at 33% right now. That is the industry average in case you did not know. The site is brand new, and were making changes to it on a weekly basis, so that will improve. And were gonna do whatever it takes to increase that 33% average.Comment
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xGape does over 200 signups a day?Originally posted by MetaformXBy the time I am done, the jealous hater and his mother will be sending traffic to StudioCash. Cause even jealous haters can't pass up money.
And here is todays admin stats for the entire program. Put this in your pipe and smoke it haters.
I really love it when people come in here and tell me I don't know what I am doing. Does your program do 1 in 412 first page hits with all kinds of traffic combined?Comment
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Alex, thanks bro, can I take a rain check on that and hit you up tomorow?Originally posted by Alex From San DiegoComment
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Yes, thats trials + rebills combined. Mostly trials though.Originally posted by JSA MattComment
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$35 per active?? jesus... the guys sending you traffic must be clueless lolComment
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that's a lot of greek surfers
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The greeks love the Anal bro, you know that!Originally posted by Soul_Rebelthat's a lot of greek surfers
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No, they like the site we offer and the program, they are not clueless, and they have voiced their opinion to me about their dislike with the per active model, which is why we are changing to revshare.Originally posted by Trax
One thing no one here understands is we are in BETA MODE. There is a reason it is called Beta mode. That is so we can test stuff and find the method that works best for our webmasters and us.
But I guess everyone would rather I just do the same thing everyone else does. Innovation be damned.Comment
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Originally posted by Veterans Daywhat happened, were did he go Its taken him 2.5 years to build this brand and his 1 site, give the guy some slack
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Between rev-share and per active, I would want rev-share too.Originally posted by MetaformX
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Thanks Alien, I agree bro.Originally posted by AlienQThats what I am saying.
Pah leeese.
Fuck da haters Metaform. Do your thing, no one else will do it for ya but they will pose and posture like they got it altogether.
These guys like Franck, Rich, Crypt, European Lee are like a "hating MetaformX groupie". They just follow me around and the second StudioCash is mentioned, come in here and spit BS.
Why do they feel like they have to put me down? Are they that desperate for fake drama?Comment
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I don't think I get pissy at all, never once have I resorted to name calling or anything of that sorts or gone off the handle. Read all my replies, every one of them is a rational response.Originally posted by Sly
I call them haters because that is what they are. Look at the people in this thread who are talking shit (Rich, Crypt, European Lee, Franck) they are the same exact people who just follow me around and talk shit about StudioCash. Anytime StudioCash is mentioned, they are there.
They are haters plain and simple. What should I call them? All they do is just be negative about everything. If news broke that StudioCash just cured cancer, they will still hate becaus it's StudioCash.
Why do they hate? Because they are trying to get their own names out there by creating drama around StudioCash because it's a well known name.
But I like the haters, they serve a purpose for me.
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I don't think I have ever posted in one of your threads, so I probably don't qualify as a hater, but I see the points they are making.
One of them asked why you didn't let the affiliate choose between PPS and partnership if you know you can make money with both models. I too would like to hear an answer to this question. Is seems to me that you would make your program more attractive if you let the affiliates choose for themselves.. Why not do this?Comment
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Split BS? LOLOriginally posted by MetaformX
Man you are a fucking liar , simple as that.
Stop the bullshit with ppl you try to get for affiliates.Comment
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Stupid question to say the least...Originally posted by MetaformX
btw most people here don't hate you man..more like they pity you on your constant indecisions and mistakes...
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No, I only consider the 4 that I mentioned as StudioCash haters, not anyone who has a question or concern. Those 4 just go around bashing StudioCash no matter what I say. They are on auto bash.Originally posted by mortenb
To answer your question, we will give the affiliates the choice between PPS or revshare down the line, just not right away.
For now, we will start with revshare.Comment
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Beta is usually done in private and you don't announce every step you make. The purpose of beta testing is to provide a working product/service once you make a public releaseOriginally posted by MetaformX
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The pitty is appreciated, I mean really, but I do just find thank you very much. But thanks anyways!Originally posted by RuiStupid question to say the least...
btw most people here don't hate you man..more like they pity you on your constant indecisions and mistakes...Comment
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That's just it. That doesn't answer the question. You say that you can make money using both models.. Then I can't understand your reasoning for not offering both models to your affiliates..Originally posted by MetaformX
I understand that you have chosen it, but from your previous statements, it seems like shooting yourself in the foot.
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So we should not tell our webmasters and potential affiliates what our payout model is? We should keep that a secret?Originally posted by J BBeta is usually done in private and you don't announce every step you make. The purpose of beta testing is to provide a working product/service once you make a public release
But I agree with the purpose of a beta, which is what we are doing.Comment
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Ok, your question if fair. Lets put it this way. If we want to offer both a PPS and revshare, that means I have to put in the infrastructure for a PPS model, which means cross sells, exits up the wazzoo, and other 'shady' things. I don't want to do that and would rather keep things straight forward with a simple revshare model for now. Does that answer your question?Originally posted by mortenbThat's just it. That doesn't answer the question. You say that you can make money using both models.. Then I can't understand your reasoning for not offering both models to your affiliates..
I understand that you have chosen it, but from your previous statements, it seems like shooting yourself in the foot.Comment
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Time for some drinks, will check this thread tomorow.Comment
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I'm not telling you what you should do or shouldn't do, that's entirely your business. I was just stating my opinion on what beta testing means and how it's usually doneOriginally posted by MetaformX
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Originally posted by MetaformX
Finally its your choice, and not a request from affiliates to do more money like you said before. lol
Bullshit #348
Re-read your old bullshit before starting new one , its worst everytime.
BTW, its not againt your program , its more about how YOU do things, and lie to everyone to get accepted. Dont try to start on top of the building if you cant. Do like everyone, start on the bottom and climb.Comment
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Mine does, easily.Originally posted by MetaformX
I really love it when people come in here and tell me I don't know what I am doing. Does your program do 1 in 412 first page hits with all kinds of traffic combined?
We also convert over 40% of our trials to monthly memberships. And 20% of new signups opt for the monthly option initially.
Also, I'm curious about this
You're counting rebills as sales when calculating your 1 in 412 ratio? If so your ratio is alot worse than that.Originally posted by MetaformXsig too bigComment
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Who the fuck cares.. Now if you came on her and announced a 60% or 70% revshare model, that might be interesting.. But coming on here and announcing that you made a fucking decision.. Jeez.. What sort of lame as fuck mangement are you?? Grow a sack or something.. I couldn't care less if you succeed or fail.. But stop being such a lame ass looking for the approval of your peers... You get it by making decisive decisions and making people some fucking money...Originally posted by MetaformXComment
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