StudioCash chooses Partnership over PPS model. - GoFuckYourself.com

MetaformX · 05-06-2005, 10:35 AM

StudioCash conversions have been nothing short of amazing so far, but with an Active member payout model, many of our webmasters have told us that they wanted something more.

So, after much testing and tweaking, and comparing of different payout models, we have decided that a 50/50 partnership would best serve our webmasters in the long run.

Of course there is a reason why most affiliate programs go with a PPS model and not a Partnership. The reason is because the PPS model makes the most money for the PROGRAM. It is a numbers game, and if done right, there is no doubt that PPS is more profitable. The numbers don't lie.

We however are taking a different approach. I want to create a partnership program that makes it quite evident and clear to the webmaster that he/she can make more money with a partnership program over a PPS.

I have a simple outlook on the difference between a partnership program and a PPS program. With a Partnership program, you are a partner. With a PPS program, you are an employee.

The smart webmaster who has a long term approach already knows that a partnership model is the smartest choice. You will make more money with a partnership, make no mistake about that, and my goal is to make StudioCash the best Partnership program on the net.

This is our Anal site xGape that you will be able to promote on a partnership

We will be releasing our Interracial site shortly.

Our move to the partnership model will take place next week.

BradShaw · 05-06-2005, 10:37 AM

Moves from PPS to Partnership generally mean death of a program.

Ask Xbangcash and others.

Rui · 05-06-2005, 10:41 AM

LOL after all your hype about how you understood the PPS game and all that you post this...

is this a joke?

MetaformX · 05-06-2005, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradShaw

Moves from PPS to Partnership generally mean death of a program.

Ask Xbangcash and others.

Brad,

Any program owner who can not make money in a partnership program does not belong in business, regardless if it is adult or not. This is not a shot at Xbangcash, just my general opinion.

Rich · 05-06-2005, 10:43 AM

Can't you stop bullshitting your affiliates for a God damn second? You're doing this to make them more money, yeah everyone believes that.

You didn't test your sites and you don't have the capability to pay per join yet, and you realized no one wants to promote a "pay per active member" model because it's a ripoff unless the payout is $60+. There, it wasn't so hard to tell the truth now, was it?

bdld · 05-06-2005, 10:47 AM

i'd prefer pps, or at least the option to choose which one.

pornstar2pac · 05-06-2005, 10:49 AM

sig placement.

gonna be a long day here at GFY

Rich · 05-06-2005, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaformX

Brad,

Any program owner who can not make money in a partnership program does not belong in business, regardless if it is adult or not. This is not a shot at Xbangcash, just my general opinion.

Didn't you say the same thing about PPS two weeks ago?

Of course program owners can make money with a partnership program, there's no risk involved. It's paying per join that takes knowledge. The problem is getting people to promote a crummy recurring program with no PPS option. Brad didn't say anything about not being able to make money with a partnership platform, he said that when a program switches from PPS to revshare it's the beginning of the end, which couldn't be more true. Name 2 programs that have switched and then stuck around for more than a year.

Crypt · 05-06-2005, 11:08 AM

Where is the legion of fake nicks regged in 2002 with 50 post count to back up your new revshare direction now?

Amputate Your Head · 05-06-2005, 11:12 AM

"XGAPE is the worlds #1 Anal site"

isn't that site brand new? When was the voting and who declared it #1? Who is #2?

TheJimmy · 05-06-2005, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Crypt

Where is the legion of fake nicks regged in 2002 with 50 post count to back up your new revshare direction now?

you mean

AssylumN ? or is it AssylumX?

LOL!

Manowar · 05-06-2005, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich

Can't you stop bullshitting your affiliates for a God damn second? You're doing this to make them more money, yeah everyone believes that.

You didn't test your sites and you don't have the capability to pay per join yet, and you realized no one wants to promote a "pay per active member" model because it's a ripoff unless the payout is $60+. There, it wasn't so hard to tell the truth now, was it?

I hear ya

Rich · 05-06-2005, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Crypt

Where is the legion of fake nicks regged in 2002 with 50 post count to back up your new revshare direction now?

On the way I'm sure.

MetaformX · 05-06-2005, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Rui

LOL after all your hype about how you understood the PPS game and all that you post this...

is this a joke?

I do understand the PPS game, and guess what? I am telling you right now that I can make more money in a PPS model.

So why am I going with a Partnership model over a PPS when I know that I will make more money in PPS?

I can go with the PPS model and compete with 20 other rerally good PPS programs, or I can go into the partnership model which I consider to be fairly unsaturated as far as a big program is concerned.

Most partnership programs are usually specific niche sites or single girl sites, there are not that many large affiliate programs that are operating in the Partnership field.

My vision is to make StudioCash the best partnership program on the net. That is why I am going with partnership and PPS.

Also, I should say that we are not moving from a PPS model to a Partnership, we have never had a PPS model, but were contemplating it.

We are moving from an Active payout model to a Partnership.

MetaformX · 05-06-2005, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich

Can't you stop bullshitting your affiliates for a God damn second? You're doing this to make them more money, yeah everyone believes that.

You didn't test your sites and you don't have the capability to pay per join yet, and you realized no one wants to promote a "pay per active member" model because it's a ripoff unless the payout is $60+. There, it wasn't so hard to tell the truth now, was it?

No, I do have the capability to do a PPS model, and I already told you that our webmasters do not like the pay per active model and that is why we are switching. Why don't you actually read the thread. I know you dn't like me for some reason Rich, it's quite apparent from all your posts in the past, but at least try and be a little unbiased.

You think I would spend that much money on creating StudioCash and not have any money to cover anything else?

Sly · 05-06-2005, 11:22 AM

Shit waders on sale... $25 a pair. Contact me for details.

Crypt · 05-06-2005, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaformX

No, I do have the capability to do a PPS model, and I already told you that our webmasters do not like the pay per active model (Insert more bullshit there) bla bla bla

They prolly asked you a REAL PPS model, not a revshare program.
The revshare decision is prolly only from you and your 200 fake nicks.

justsexxx · 05-06-2005, 11:29 AM

If you are sure you will make more with PPS, why not offer PPS AND revshare?

Dirty F · 05-06-2005, 11:33 AM

Man, i havent seen so much crap with a new program as this one. Fucking last year we had to read about the (fake) hype already. Guaranteed ratios, fake characters, 10 posts about price changes, pps to revshare, will this ever stop?
Fucking last year you said you were gonna pay out guaranteed on 1:200 or whatever and now you cant even manage to offer 25 dollars a sale. Go find a job, you suck at the intraweb.

Dirty F · 05-06-2005, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by justsexxx

If you are sure you will make more with PPS, why not offer PPS AND revshare?

Stop asking difficult questions he cant answer without lying.

Rich · 05-06-2005, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaformX

No, I do have the capability to do a PPS model, and I already told you that our webmasters do not like the pay per active model and that is why we are switching. Why don't you actually read the thread. I know you dn't like me for some reason Rich, it's quite apparent from all your posts in the past, but at least try and be a little unbiased.

You think I would spend that much money on creating StudioCash and not have any money to cover anything else?

I actually do like you, I don't think you're a bad guy at all. I just call it like I see it. I admit you lost a lot of my respect when you did the fake "test' threads, but I'm not just saying this to give you shit. You worked hard on your program, let it build slowly, don't try to force publicity by pulling lame stunts like you have. And in a thread like this, be honest, don't give us some shit about you being able to make more in PPS but you're doing partnership anyway. It's extremely important for programs to be honest, especially in a business where the affiliate has no choice but to take a program's word that it doesn't shave. I guarantee you loose a lot more affiliates than you gain/save every time you play with the truth to try to make yourself sound better. If you'd just be honest and let your program grow because your sites and convert and you're a strait shooter, eventually it will get where you want it to be.

Rich · 05-06-2005, 11:37 AM

See for the six people who believe what you're saying, 1000 realize you're just trying to save face. Everyone would rather have you just up front. You're trying to be the only large recurring program? I can't think of a large program that doesn't offer partnership.

Dirty F · 05-06-2005, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich

I actually do like you, I don't think you're a bad guy at all. I just call it like I see it. I admit you lost a lot of my respect when you did the fake "test' threads, but I'm not just saying this to give you shit. You worked hard on your program, let it build slowly, don't try to force publicity by pulling lame stunts like you have. And in a thread like this, be honest, don't give us some shit about you being able to make more in PPS but you're doing partnership anyway. It's extremely important for programs to be honest, especially in a business where the affiliate has no choice but to take a program's word that it doesn't shave. I guarantee you loose a lot more affiliates than you gain/save every time you play with the truth to try to make yourself sound better. If you'd just be honest and let your program grow because your sites and convert and you're a strait shooter, eventually it will get where you want it to be.

I couldnt have said it better.

xxxice · 05-06-2005, 11:39 AM

Good move I don't like pps

Sly · 05-06-2005, 11:42 AM

Listen to Rich. He's right. Every couple months you come in and try to hype up your program with lies and propaganda. Why? Nobody else does this. The only program that ever came remotely close was Adult Players Club, and they were able to back-up every bit of "hype" given.

Why don't you just do it like everybody else does? Open your sites, start making money, gradually work your way to PPS. Telling us that affiliates make more with rev-share than PPS is absolute bull shit and you know it. Whenever given the option I ALWAYS take PPS because it ALWAYS makes me more money.

Rich · 05-06-2005, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly

Listen to Rich. He's right. Every couple months you come in and try to hype up your program with lies and propaganda. Why? Nobody else does this. The only program that ever came remotely close was Adult Players Club, and they were able to back-up every bit of "hype" given.

I hate to say this, but Like Whoa did it big time.

Sly · 05-06-2005, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Rich

I hate to say this, but Like Whoa did it big time.

They were a hosting company, not a program, but you're right. And they failed, for many more reasons than most people know.

JSA Matt · 05-06-2005, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Rich

I hate to say this, but Like Whoa did it big time.

LikeWhoa was a solid company for a while and lived up to the hype, they just had some bad apples

Rich · 05-06-2005, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly

They were a hosting company, not a program, but you're right. And they failed, for many more reasons than most people know.

Hey, don't forget All Liquid. I still have a (cheapass) T-shirt.

Sly · 05-06-2005, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by JSA Matt

LikeWhoa was a solid company for a while and lived up to the hype, they just had some bad apples

Um... no. Like I said, the Like Whoa story is quite interesting.

Rich · 05-06-2005, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSA Matt

LikeWhoa was a solid company for a while and lived up to the hype, they just had some bad apples

They were solid as long as the kid's dad was pumping in money to bankroll them. If by solid you mean servers that go down all the time and sites that won't convert to save your life.

JSA Matt · 05-06-2005, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly

Um... no. Like I said, the Like Whoa story is quite interesting.

Well I was only involved with their hosting services and they were solid for us, until they stole our boxes

Rich · 05-06-2005, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSA Matt

Well I was only involved with their hosting services and they were solid for us, until they stole our boxes

Exactly, because they were taking your money and not paying their bandwidth bill. I'll admit they gave a good illusion of being solid to a lot of people.

Trax · 05-06-2005, 11:57 AM

thread gone wrong lol

let me translate it:
If a program goes from PPS to revshare this means the sites suck, don't retain and don't make the owner any money... that means I would not even bother sending you traffic to the revsh solution either because they can not retain the surfer....

THAT EASY

MaDalton · 05-06-2005, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trax

thread gone wrong lol

let me translate it:
If a program goes from PPS to revshare this means the sites suck, don't retain and don't make the owner any money... that means I would not even bother sending you traffic to the revsh solution either because they can not retain the surfer....

THAT EASY

that would be my way of understanding as well

Dirty F · 05-06-2005, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trax

thread gone wrong lol

let me translate it:
If a program goes from PPS to revshare this means the sites suck, don't retain and don't make the owner any money... that means I would not even bother sending you traffic to the revsh solution either because they can not retain the surfer....

THAT EASY

Sounds about right.

whatif_3 · 05-06-2005, 12:00 PM

with the facts on the table, thats a hard spin

takes balls

Rich · 05-06-2005, 12:15 PM

Let's just let this thread die and MetaformX can try again.

sandman! · 05-06-2005, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaformX

StudioCash conversions have been nothing short of amazing so far, but with an Active member payout model, many of our webmasters have told us that they wanted something more.

So, after much testing and tweaking, and comparing of different payout models, we have decided that a 50/50 partnership would best serve our webmasters in the long run.

Of course there is a reason why most affiliate programs go with a PPS model and not a Partnership. The reason is because the PPS model makes the most money for the PROGRAM. It is a numbers game, and if done right, there is no doubt that PPS is more profitable. The numbers don't lie.

We however are taking a different approach. I want to create a partnership program that makes it quite evident and clear to the webmaster that he/she can make more money with a partnership program over a PPS.

I have a simple outlook on the difference between a partnership program and a PPS program. With a Partnership program, you are a partner. With a PPS program, you are an employee.

The smart webmaster who has a long term approach already knows that a partnership model is the smartest choice. You will make more money with a partnership, make no mistake about that, and my goal is to make StudioCash the best Partnership program on the net.

This is our Anal site xGape that you will be able to promote on a partnership

We will be releasing our Interracial site shortly.

Our move to the partnership model will take place next week.

you are full of shit you cant afford to pay the going rate for active memberships so you come out with this bullshit that a 50/50 split is better?
For who you who cant afford the going $40-$60 per active ?
Your a joke.

VeriSexy · 05-06-2005, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaformX

StudioCash conversions have been nothing short of amazing so far, but with an Active member payout model, many of our webmasters have told us that they wanted something more.

So, after much testing and tweaking, and comparing of different payout models, we have decided that a 50/50 partnership would best serve our webmasters in the long run.

Of course there is a reason why most affiliate programs go with a PPS model and not a Partnership. The reason is because the PPS model makes the most money for the PROGRAM. It is a numbers game, and if done right, there is no doubt that PPS is more profitable. The numbers don't lie.

We however are taking a different approach. I want to create a partnership program that makes it quite evident and clear to the webmaster that he/she can make more money with a partnership program over a PPS.

I have a simple outlook on the difference between a partnership program and a PPS program. With a Partnership program, you are a partner. With a PPS program, you are an employee.

The smart webmaster who has a long term approach already knows that a partnership model is the smartest choice. You will make more money with a partnership, make no mistake about that, and my goal is to make StudioCash the best Partnership program on the net.

This is our Anal site xGape that you will be able to promote on a partnership

We will be releasing our Interracial site shortly.

Our move to the partnership model will take place next week.

It's getting harder and harder for everyone to make money.......... Not what it use to be

StuartD · 05-06-2005, 12:28 PM

In my opinion, a program that is just starting out should be only revshare... unless they have huge financial backings.

A program jumps immediately into the $25 and up payouts for each trial or month they get someone joined will do well, but not at first. The first few months, all the way up to a year.. maybe even more can be very hard to be profitable.

Sometimes you people forget that just because someone opens their doors and tries to get you promoting them, it doesn't mean that they unlimited resources and can promise you the world. You want 6 million free hosted galleries, free hosted paysites, exclusive content to only you and want to make $600 per sale on a $1 trial.... well, it just isn't going to happen from a company that is just getting their roots planted.

Platinumpimp · 05-06-2005, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandman!

you are full of shit you cant afford to pay the going rate for active memberships so you come out with this bullshit that a 50/50 split is better?
For who you who cant afford the going $40-$60 per active ?
Your a joke.

If you are going to call somebody a joke, make sure you have at least your spelling right.

It's "you're"

I agree with the majority in this thread, he's just trying to save his OWN ass.

Trax · 05-06-2005, 12:30 PM

oh this wasn't even pure PPS? It was Pay Per Active??

thats even better lol

sandman! · 05-06-2005, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platinumpimp

If you are going to call somebody a joke, make sure you have at least your spelling right.

It's "you're"

I agree with the majority in this thread, he's just trying to save his OWN ass.

like i spell check anything i post.

tradermcduck · 05-06-2005, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly

Why don't you just do it like everybody else does? Open your sites, start making money, gradually work your way to PPS. Telling us that affiliates make more with rev-share than PPS is absolute bull shit and you know it. Whenever given the option I ALWAYS take PPS because it ALWAYS makes me more money.

Rich · 05-06-2005, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandman!

like i spell check anything i post.

hahaha, spell check eh?

European Lee · 05-06-2005, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NichePay - StuartD

In my opinion, a program that is just starting out should be only revshare... unless they have huge financial backings.

Agreed.

Not only on the large financial backing aspect but, to allow that program to judge the response to their program overall.

If a program is dying after launch on the Revshare model, itll most certainly die on a PPS model right from launch.

Regards,

Lee

DarkJedi · 05-06-2005, 12:41 PM

LO - FUCKING- L !!

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gdog · 05-06-2005, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trax

thread gone wrong lol

let me translate it:
If a program goes from PPS to revshare this means the sites suck, don't retain and don't make the owner any money... that means I would not even bother sending you traffic to the revsh solution either because they can not retain the surfer....

THAT EASY

, you pretty much summed it all up here.

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Sly Let's do some business! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 31,359	Listen to Rich. He's right. Every couple months you come in and try to hype up your program with lies and propaganda. Why? Nobody else does this. The only program that ever came remotely close was Adult Players Club, and they were able to back-up every bit of "hype" given. Why don't you just do it like everybody else does? Open your sites, start making money, gradually work your way to PPS. Telling us that affiliates make more with rev-share than PPS is absolute bull shit and you know it. Whenever given the option I ALWAYS take PPS because it ALWAYS makes me more money. __________________ Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted Windows VPS now available Great for TSS, Nifty Stats, remote work, virtual assistants, etc. Click here for more details.

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MetaformX Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 6,704	StudioCash chooses Partnership over PPS model. StudioCash conversions have been nothing short of amazing so far, but with an Active member payout model, many of our webmasters have told us that they wanted something more. So, after much testing and tweaking, and comparing of different payout models, we have decided that a 50/50 partnership would best serve our webmasters in the long run. Of course there is a reason why most affiliate programs go with a PPS model and not a Partnership. The reason is because the PPS model makes the most money for the PROGRAM. It is a numbers game, and if done right, there is no doubt that PPS is more profitable. The numbers don't lie. We however are taking a different approach. I want to create a partnership program that makes it quite evident and clear to the webmaster that he/she can make more money with a partnership program over a PPS. I have a simple outlook on the difference between a partnership program and a PPS program. With a Partnership program, you are a partner. With a PPS program, you are an employee. The smart webmaster who has a long term approach already knows that a partnership model is the smartest choice. You will make more money with a partnership, make no mistake about that, and my goal is to make StudioCash the best Partnership program on the net. This is our Anal site xGape that you will be able to promote on a partnership We will be releasing our Interracial site shortly. Our move to the partnership model will take place next week. __________________

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Rui web Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: On icq: 85-483-060 Posts: 9,533	LOL after all your hype about how you understood the PPS game and all that you post this... is this a joke?

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Rich So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,486	Can't you stop bullshitting your affiliates for a God damn second? You're doing this to make them more money, yeah everyone believes that. You didn't test your sites and you don't have the capability to pay per join yet, and you realized no one wants to promote a "pay per active member" model because it's a ripoff unless the payout is $60+. There, it wasn't so hard to tell the truth now, was it?

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bdld $100,000 Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 11,452	i'd prefer pps, or at least the option to choose which one.

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Crypt Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 2,225	Where is the legion of fake nicks regged in 2002 with 50 post count to back up your new revshare direction now?

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Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Man, i havent seen so much crap with a new program as this one. Fucking last year we had to read about the (fake) hype already. Guaranteed ratios, fake characters, 10 posts about price changes, pps to revshare, will this ever stop? Fucking last year you said you were gonna pay out guaranteed on 1:200 or whatever and now you cant even manage to offer 25 dollars a sale. Go find a job, you suck at the intraweb.

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Rich So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,486	See for the six people who believe what you're saying, 1000 realize you're just trying to save face. Everyone would rather have you just up front. You're trying to be the only large recurring program? I can't think of a large program that doesn't offer partnership.

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xxxice Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5,042	Good move I don't like pps

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Trax [----------------------] Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,486	thread gone wrong lol let me translate it: If a program goes from PPS to revshare this means the sites suck, don't retain and don't make the owner any money... that means I would not even bother sending you traffic to the revsh solution either because they can not retain the surfer.... THAT EASY

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whatif_3 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 459	with the facts on the table, thats a hard spin takes balls

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Rich So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,486	Let's just let this thread die and MetaformX can try again.

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StuartD Sofa King Band Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Outside the box Posts: 29,903	In my opinion, a program that is just starting out should be only revshare... unless they have huge financial backings. A program jumps immediately into the $25 and up payouts for each trial or month they get someone joined will do well, but not at first. The first few months, all the way up to a year.. maybe even more can be very hard to be profitable. Sometimes you people forget that just because someone opens their doors and tries to get you promoting them, it doesn't mean that they unlimited resources and can promise you the world. You want 6 million free hosted galleries, free hosted paysites, exclusive content to only you and want to make $600 per sale on a $1 trial.... well, it just isn't going to happen from a company that is just getting their roots planted. __________________ This is me on facebook This is me on twitter

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Trax [----------------------] Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,486	oh this wasn't even pure PPS? It was Pay Per Active?? thats even better lol

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