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Snake Doctor · 04-27-2005, 10:06 AM

I've got a few hours to kill while these videos render so ask me about anything.

I won't answer any questions about my income or my cock size though. (One is so big you wouldn't believe it and the other is so small you wouldn't believe it

)

JFPdude · 04-27-2005, 10:12 AM

Is there money in porn?

StuartD · 04-27-2005, 10:14 AM

Can I have something to eat?

Snake Doctor · 04-27-2005, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by JFPdude

Is there money in porn?

Yes, but not for everyone

Snake Doctor · 04-27-2005, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by NichePay - StuartD

Can I have something to eat?

Sure what would you like?

SleazeQueen · 04-27-2005, 10:17 AM

I was hoping that you'd tell me what affiliate programs to sign up for and then design some galleries for me, host them along with some front ends and FPA's and then send me tons and tons of traffic that converts 1:3.

Is that too much to ask?

JFPdude · 04-27-2005, 10:18 AM

do I have to learn html, unix, linux, ftp, frontpage, dreamweaver, or anything else to make money in porn or will you show me step by step?

EROTEEK · 04-27-2005, 10:18 AM

what's a small black point between two small white points?

Snake Doctor · 04-27-2005, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazeQueen

I was hoping that you'd tell me what affiliate programs to sign up for and then design some galleries for me, host them along with some front ends and FPA's and then send me tons and tons of traffic that converts 1:3.

Is that too much to ask?

I said I was going to answer your questions, not blow you

Snake Doctor · 04-27-2005, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by JFPdude

do I have to learn html, unix, linux, ftp, frontpage, dreamweaver, or anything else to make money in porn or will you show me step by step?

Actually you don't "need" to know any of that stuff.
There are people who make a living buying google adwords and sending the traffic straight to their sponsors.

However the more skills you have the more options you have.

Sexzity · 04-27-2005, 10:26 AM

What is the next big thing

clickhappy · 04-27-2005, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2

I've got a few hours to kill while these videos render so ask me about anything.

I won't answer any questions about my income or my cock size though. (One is so big you wouldn't believe it and the other is so small you wouldn't believe it

)

Is it a waste of time to put out a paysite that doesn't have exclusive content? Or do you think there's money to be made putting out a site that has already seen content?

StuartD · 04-27-2005, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2

Sure what would you like?

shrimp salad sandwich would be nice right about now.

Snake Doctor · 04-27-2005, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Sexzity

What is the next big thing

If I knew the answer to that I wouldn't be posting it here....I'd clean up and go buy my own tropical island.

Snake Doctor · 04-27-2005, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by NichePay - StuartD

shrimp salad sandwich would be nice right about now.

Sorry all I have here are some slim jims and some left over stir fry.

StuartD · 04-27-2005, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2

Sorry all I have here are some slim jims and some left over stir fry.

Fresh · 04-27-2005, 10:33 AM

What are some of the things that noobs do that annoys you?

And what are some of the things that annoy you that someone your doing business with would do?

Snake Doctor · 04-27-2005, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by clickhappy

Is it a waste of time to put out a paysite that doesn't have exclusive content? Or do you think there's money to be made putting out a site that has already seen content?

Personally I prefer exclusive content. I've made TONS of money promoting sites that have exclusive content....they convert and retain better.

However, there are some programs out there that are very successful that only use purchased and leased content in their paysites.

The reason most non-exclusive sites fail is because they're created by newbies, who buy a "content blowout" deal and then get a $400 paysite design and then do nothing but submit TGP galleries and try to get people to sign up for their 50/50 CCbill program.
That's not a business plan that's very likely to succeed.

If you go non-exclusive because you can't AFFORD to go exclusive, then the odds are you won't be successful.

Whether you go exlusive or not you should have enough traffic of your own, or money to buy traffic, to support the site on your own without having any affiliates.
A paysite should not be your first project in this business. You need to be successful at other things first.

clickhappy · 04-27-2005, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2

The reason most non-exclusive sites fail is because they're created by newbies, who buy a "content blowout" deal and then get a $400 paysite design and then do nothing but submit TGP galleries

oh
thats exactly what I was going to do. Except spend more in content and more for a paysite design
fuck.
Ive been semi-successful promoting other sites and now want to keep more of the money myself.
I flopped on avs and freesites though.

pornguy · 04-27-2005, 10:44 AM

My question is, how long have you been a newb???

Basic_man · 04-27-2005, 10:48 AM

Who's the best designer around ? Awnser : http://www.simplyadultdesign.com

escorpio · 04-27-2005, 10:52 AM

Why does it hurt when I pee?

EROTEEK · 04-27-2005, 10:53 AM

..yeah, i knew he won't answer my question, nobody cares to answer my questions BCOUSE I'M A GIRL...

Snake Doctor · 04-27-2005, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by clickhappy

oh
thats exactly what I was going to do. Except spend more in content and more for a paysite design
fuck.
Ive been semi-successful promoting other sites and now want to keep more of the money myself.
I flopped on avs and freesites though.

I think AVS would be a really good starting point for you.
Its less upfront expense and you can learn how to convert the traffic that comes to your own site instead of handing traffic off to a sponsor.

As far as keeping more of the money for yourself, these are the numbers I would crunch.

How many sales per day am I sending to sponsors?
How much will the initial cost of opening the paysite be? (content, design, server, tracking software, visa fees, etc)
How much will the ongoing cost of opening the paysite be?(content updates, bandwidth expense etc)

If you're making 60% recurring now, then the extra 40% you'll make by having your own site has to be enough to cover all of the expenses involved with running the paysite. (This of course assumes that you'll be able to convert and retain members as well as the sponsors you're currently using)

Also you have to look at how long it will take you to recoup the initial expenses.

Snake Doctor · 04-27-2005, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by pornguy

My question is, how long have you been a newb???

I've been a newb for almost 5 years now.

Snake Doctor · 04-27-2005, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by escorpio

Why does it hurt when I pee?

Your penis is too small

eroswebmaster · 04-27-2005, 10:59 AM

How do you build a converting gallery?

Snake Doctor · 04-27-2005, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by EROTEEK

..yeah, i knew he won't answer my question, nobody cares to answer my questions BCOUSE I'M A GIRL...

Yeah its because you're a girl....has nothing to do with the fact that it was a weird ass question that I don't know the answer to.

Theo · 04-27-2005, 10:59 AM

what was the last innovation in the industry that impressed you?

Snake Doctor · 04-27-2005, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by eroswebmaster

How do you build a converting gallery?

I don't, I hire you to do it for me

Seriously though, galleries aren't that difficult. The focus of a gallery needs to be the content. If they like the content they'll join, if they don't they won't.
Pretty simple

Sly · 04-27-2005, 11:02 AM

I know its pretty late, but I'm working my way into TGP galleries now. Should I just say "fuck it" and jump straight into movie galleries?

Yo Adrian · 04-27-2005, 11:03 AM

Where can I find free webmaster labor?

Snake Doctor · 04-27-2005, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel

what was the last innovation in the industry that impressed you?

There are alot of "innovations" out there right now, and I have no idea how successful they will be or how they will impact the industry long term. (VOD, DRM, Mobile Content, etc etc)

The last "innovation" that made me alot of money was epoch's upgrade plus. Limited trial members areas.....they're awesome

Snake Doctor · 04-27-2005, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Yo Adrian

Where can I find free webmaster labor?

Snake Doctor · 04-27-2005, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly

I know its pretty late, but I'm working my way into TGP galleries now. Should I just say "fuck it" and jump straight into movie galleries?

You've been doing galleries for a long time haven't you Sly?

Anyways my answer is yes, movie galleries are good.
I don't have any experience submitting them, but on all my paid listings movies convert alot better than pics.

Sly · 04-27-2005, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2

You've been doing galleries for a long time haven't you Sly?

Anyways my answer is yes, movie galleries are good.
I don't have any experience submitting them, but on all my paid listings movies convert alot better than pics.

No, actually I haven't. I've tried getting into it a couple times but never followed through. Last month I started submitting pic galleries and haven't stopped, the only problem I'm running into is traffic. I have accounts at Pink World, Shemp, World Sex, AL4A, and a couple other smaller ones and I love them all... I just need more traffic!

It seems like there's a lot more movie gallery traffic around and available than pic gallery traffic. Any suggestions on where I could find a good list of active TGPs?

Snake Doctor · 04-27-2005, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly

No, actually I haven't. I've tried getting into it a couple times but never followed through. Last month I started submitting pic galleries and haven't stopped, the only problem I'm running into is traffic. I have accounts at Pink World, Shemp, World Sex, AL4A, and a couple other smaller ones and I love them all... I just need more traffic!

It seems like there's a lot more movie gallery traffic around and available than pic gallery traffic. Any suggestions on where I could find a good list of active TGPs?

That's a tough one man. Last time my submitter went looking for new TGP's to submit to he got so infected with spyware we had to Format C:.

Free traffic is getting much harder to come by. I would go with paid partner accounts at a select few places, like the ones you have already.
Then re-invest all the profit into more partner accounts and paid listings. (Once you find something that sells really well for you)

The free traffic pool is shrinking every day

borked · 04-27-2005, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2

If he's no good, put me next in line!

Snake Doctor · 04-27-2005, 11:24 AM

Hey Sly...someone showed me this the other day....there's alot of paid partner account offers there that I didn't know about.
http://www.paidspots.com/

Snake Doctor · 04-27-2005, 01:38 PM

No other questions? I'm out of here in about 90 minutes

jawanda · 04-27-2005, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2

No other questions? I'm out of here in about 90 minutes

Am I asking for trouble using User-submitted content? Is my disclaimer good enough? http://www.thongpeak.com/submit.html

Fuckin' surfers STILL submit pics with other sites watermarks on them and shit, or just pics that I've seen before or are obviously professional.

How can I deter them even more from submitting stolen content? I'd say about 25% of submissions I get right now are stolen. Of course that content is deleted and the submitter is IP-banned from my site, but any other suggestions?

Thanks,

-Phil

PS: I know you're not a lawyer, just asking for your opinion.

MaDalton · 04-27-2005, 01:56 PM

what is so fascinating about big boobs? something i always wondered about since i think it's just two bags of useless fat.

Scott McD · 04-27-2005, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

what is so fascinating about big boobs? something i always wondered about since i think it's just two bags of useless fat.

Useless fat ?? No fucking way !!

Snake Doctor · 04-27-2005, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jawanda

Am I asking for trouble using User-submitted content? Is my disclaimer good enough? http://www.thongpeak.com/submit.html

Fuckin' surfers STILL submit pics with other sites watermarks on them and shit, or just pics that I've seen before or are obviously professional.

How can I deter them even more from submitting stolen content? I'd say about 25% of submissions I get right now are stolen. Of course that content is deleted and the submitter is IP-banned from my site, but any other suggestions?

Thanks,

-Phil

PS: I know you're not a lawyer, just asking for your opinion.

My opinion is you should speak to a lawyer.
Someone might tell you something is ok on GFY, but they won't be there to bail your ass out of jail if it ever comes to that.

I use J.D. Obenberger of http://www.xxxlaw.net

Snake Doctor · 04-27-2005, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

what is so fascinating about big boobs? something i always wondered about since i think it's just two bags of useless fat.

ANATHEMA!!!

You're fired.

MaDalton · 04-27-2005, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2

ANATHEMA!!!

You're fired.

damn.

Snake Doctor · 04-27-2005, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

damn.

Seriously though...I don't find anything visually appealing about a vagina either, yet people pay good money to see them.

Who am I to argue with them?

Mako · 04-27-2005, 02:25 PM

This thread has some great info in it, very nice.

My question is who you recommend as a movie content provider, both exclusive and non-exclusive?

Thanks!

Snake Doctor · 04-27-2005, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mako

This thread has some great info in it, very nice.

My question is who you recommend as a movie content provider, both exclusive and non-exclusive?

Thanks!

For exclusive I use
http://www.wanton.com/
http://customshoot.girls2models.com/
http://www.adultimagebrokers.com/
and POV Porn Guy just did some stuff for us, but I don't think he has a content site.

For non exclusive I've bought stuff from alot of different places. http://www.amacontent.com/
comes to mind. I can't remember many others, been all exclusive stuff lately.

seeric · 04-27-2005, 02:33 PM

now that the adult web is so fucking overran with free porn, how are we going to fix this problem?

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