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Tipsy · 04-27-2005, 12:46 AM

150 non-converting clicks.

Mefo · 04-27-2005, 12:53 AM

edit 43254

AdultMovies.bz · 04-27-2005, 01:13 AM

It is a suss situation, but none the less he was following the TOS and IWantU.com should have changed their TOS after paying him as it was their rules that caused the problem.
Doesn't leave people with a good feeling about IWantU...

Rictor · 04-27-2005, 01:13 AM

Let me get this straight...some webmaster gets the clever idea to sent 1 click and 1 signup to Iwantu last period, which sets his payout for this period to $1.00 per click.

Then he goes and buys some traffic at $5 per k. So for every $5 worth of crap traffic he sends, he expects Iwantu to pay him $1,000? I'm surprised this is the first guy to try this. I'm not surprised that they aren't going to pay him. Per click programs (such as Lensmans) have termed people for much less.

4Pics · 04-27-2005, 01:14 AM

did he send any profiles out of the 36k clicks?

sonofsam · 04-27-2005, 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultMovies.bz

It is a suss situation, but none the less he was following the TOS and IWantU.com should have changed their TOS after paying him as it was their rules that caused the problem.
Doesn't leave people with a good feeling about IWantU...

i agree.... i think you should pay the russian guy and then change your conditions... what it looks like.. and correct me if i'm wrong.... you guys made this deal.. and after this guy made this much money, you guys don't want to pay.... russian guy is not at fault for your offer....

evanmorgan · 04-27-2005, 01:40 AM

sounds like iwantu dont like paying money to affiliates to me....

evanmorgan · 04-27-2005, 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeCreep

This is what every single spammer says when they get termed for spamming. "I wasnt spamming, I was sending my traffic from <legit source 1> and <legit source 2>". Usually, the situation is that 90% of their traffic was spam, and 10% was from legit sources. That is still grounds for termination.

read the thread nobcheese

Varius · 04-27-2005, 01:43 AM

Wow this was a long thread to read at 3am....

Now without looking at the guy's account, let me just summarize things into how I see it, based on the info in this thread:

1) Guy finds loophole in payout scale/system

2) Guy signs up himself, or has his friend signup, to exploit this loophole (this is just the likely situation, but may not be fact if I check things out...)

3) Signup is charged back in short period of time.

Now to me, that would make his ratio for the first week be 0:1, which qualifies him for the lowest payout on the scale.

Note: This situation has made us realize we should implement further rules to prevent the possibility it happens in very legit situations. For example, someone may send his quality traffic to us for one week, convert great, and get a good payout set for next week. Then buy all the junk traffic he can find, to send our way at a high price per click. This will be taken care of ASAP so things will work more on a daily basis and prevent chances of this occurring.

However, from everything I can understand here and without speaking with Michael today about it, if that 1 signup charged back (not to mention so quickly - usually chargebacks come 1-2 months later), he has 0:1 ratio.

bringer · 04-27-2005, 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonofsam

i agree.... i think you should pay the russian guy and then change your conditions... what it looks like.. and correct me if i'm wrong.... you guys made this deal.. and after this guy made this much money, you guys don't want to pay.... russian guy is not at fault for your offer....

committing a fraudulent sign up to get access to a ppc program then flooding it with worthless traffic seems to be a nice scam. if what has been said in this thread by iwantu is true, then the russian guy IS at fault and his account should be termed. someone needs to look into the chargeback and see what the reason for it was. if it was a stolen number used for this sale, we all know who did it.

evanmorgan · 04-27-2005, 01:56 AM

looks like if you outsmart an affiliate program you get banned......

ah well, imo prove that it is a fraudulent signup, the fact that it was a chargeback doesnt prove anything, then you are in the right.

Lex Bed · 04-27-2005, 01:59 AM

Just made screenshots.
This week

Previous week

So... I can't see any chargebacks or refunds here... Maybe there delay... So I will wait.

AdultMovies.bz · 04-27-2005, 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bringer

committing a fraudulent sign up to get access to a ppc program then flooding it with worthless traffic seems to be a nice scam. if what has been said in this thread by iwantu is true, then the russian guy IS at fault and his account should be termed. someone needs to look into the chargeback and see what the reason for it was. if it was a stolen number used for this sale, we all know who did it.

Yes but on the other hand IWantU changed their story so many times it doesnt seem likely. Firstly they said he was spamming, then they took it back and used another excuse...

VeriSexy · 04-27-2005, 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky

but the money was real money right?

bringer · 04-27-2005, 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultMovies.bz

Yes but on the other hand IWantU changed their story so many times it doesnt seem likely. Firstly they said he was spamming, then they took it back and used another excuse...

thats very true although 1:1 seems very unlikely regardless.

"Restrictions on personal use
This program is intended for commercial use only, that is paying referral fees for subscriptions sold to third parties coming from a link from your sponsoring Web site to the Affiliate Pages."

good luck proving you posted the link on a valid website and a legit third party signed up on the first click. more likely the link was messaged to a friend or the affiliate themselves signed up to exploit the ppc. wheres the clicks for the last two days of the period? smells fishy

Lex Bed · 04-27-2005, 02:07 AM

2 Varius:
Shit... man do you think i signed up, then rebilled, then asked for chargeback?!
Am i stupid?! WTF...
ps I already explained everything to Mike.

Lex Bed · 04-27-2005, 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bringer

thats very true although 1:1 seems very unlikely regardless.

"Restrictions on personal use
This program is intended for commercial use only, that is paying referral fees for subscriptions sold to third parties coming from a link from your sponsoring Web site to the Affiliate Pages."

good luck proving you posted the link on a valid website and a legit third party signed up on the first click. more likely the link was messaged to a friend or the affiliate themselves signed up to exploit the ppc. wheres the clicks for the last two days of the period? smells fishy

Just read:

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantu faq

Q: Do I need to have a website? Does my website qualify?

A: No, you can promote our sites online, through viral e-mails, newsgroups...
As long as your site does not contain or promote illegal activity or materials and as long as you do not spam people, CashRing will allow you to choose any promotional method you wish.

Please remember that anyone who does not respect the Terms and Conditions will automatically have their account blocked.

bringer · 04-27-2005, 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lex Bed

Just read:

so thats the case then? you sent the link to a "third party" to signup so you could exploit the ppc program?

Lex Bed · 04-27-2005, 02:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bringer

so thats the case then? you sent the link to a "third party" to signup so you could exploit the ppc program?

Man I even don't know where this sign up came from!
But the only thing i know is that it came.
Maybe from free profiles registered in the past from my link.
Maybe from another source.
But I know that I was not doing anything wrong.

bringer · 04-27-2005, 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lex Bed

Man I even don't know where this sign up came from!
But the only thing i know is that it came.
Maybe from free profiles registered in the past from my link.
Maybe from another source.
But I know that I was not doing anything wrong.

then all you did was exploit an error. no traffic til you get $1 ppc?
that has scam written all over it. maybe you didnt do anything wrong, but i can see why they did what they did and i can see why you'd be pissed. glad im not in either of your shoes and good luck to you in your battle.

Lex Bed · 04-27-2005, 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bringer

then all you did was exploit an error. no traffic til you get $1 ppc?
that has scam written all over it. maybe you didnt do anything wrong, but i can see why they did what they did and i can see why you'd be pissed. glad im not in either of your shoes and good luck to you in your battle.

Thanks ;)
I don't think that iwantu will play dirty.

VeriSexy · 04-27-2005, 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rictor

Let me get this straight...some webmaster gets the clever idea to sent 1 click and 1 signup to Iwantu last period, which sets his payout for this period to $1.00 per click.

Then he goes and buys some traffic at $5 per k. So for every $5 worth of crap traffic he sends, he expects Iwantu to pay him $1,000? I'm surprised this is the first guy to try this. I'm not surprised that they aren't going to pay him. Per click programs (such as Lensmans) have termed people for much less.

You hit the nail on the head, that's exactly what he did

SomeCreep · 04-27-2005, 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evanmorgan

read the thread nobcheese

I did, homo.

Michael O · 04-27-2005, 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rictor

Let me get this straight...some webmaster gets the clever idea to sent 1 click and 1 signup to Iwantu last period, which sets his payout for this period to $1.00 per click.

Then he goes and buys some traffic at $5 per k. So for every $5 worth of crap traffic he sends, he expects Iwantu to pay him $1,000? I'm surprised this is the first guy to try this. I'm not surprised that they aren't going to pay him. Per click programs (such as Lensmans) have termed people for much less.

Finally someone making sense.

Ofcause they are not going to pay $35K for nothing no program would.
No matter if the signup is legit or not the guy found a loophole and tried to cash in on it. What did he think they would pay him $100K at the end of the period for nothing? Sorry to disappoint you the real world don´t work like this NO ONE would pay in a situation like this.

gangbangjoe · 04-27-2005, 02:47 AM

woooow
insane

Varius · 04-27-2005, 02:52 AM

Lex,

Before I head over to the airport in 10 mins (don't worry I"m not being sent to Russia to 'deal' with this situation hehe ;p), I just want to mention this:

I have no doubt your traffic is legit, it's just of a low quality (atleast so far). There is nothing wrong with that, it's what PPC is there for.

The issue is on the 1:1 ratio and apparent chargeback, with all signs there pointing to fraud.

I will be out of town, but I'm sure this situation will be resolved properly. They always have been, if they hadn't, we wouldn't have survived so well since 1996

Lex Bed · 04-27-2005, 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Varius

I'm sure this situation will be resolved properly. They always have been, if they hadn't, we wouldn't have survived so well since 1996

Yes, will see. I don't think that something should go wrong

Have a good flight ;)

ps why you think that my traffic is low quality? I sent ~ 150 free sign ups and it's not bad. Because i had that sign up from 11 free signs i sent u in past...

Varius · 04-27-2005, 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lex Bed

Yes, will see. I don't think that something should go wrong

Have a good flight ;)

ps why you think that my traffic is low quality? I sent ~ 150 free sign ups and it's not bad. Because i had that sign up from 11 free signs i sent u in past...

I haven't personally checked your stats, just basing that on what I saw in this thread that you sent thousands of clicks with no paid signups yet....

LIke if you have 150 free in 30-40,000 uniques, that is low to me, but depending on your traffic source/costs it might not be low for you or others

Lex Bed · 04-27-2005, 03:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Varius

I haven't personally checked your stats, just basing that on what I saw in this thread that you sent thousands of clicks with no paid signups yet....

LIke if you have 150 free in 30-40,000 uniques, that is low to me, but depending on your traffic source/costs it might not be low for you or others

traffic is clicked.
but i think we shouldn't fuck each others brain now.

we will talk with Michael tomorrow. :-)
Take care.

xxxice · 04-27-2005, 03:05 AM

wow

Richdude · 04-27-2005, 03:10 AM

Guess it's time to pick another profession my communist friend, fraud is definitely not for you!

Tip for iwantu: Don't accept non-Western webmasters

Lex Bed · 04-27-2005, 03:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richdude

Guess it's time to pick another profession my communist friend, fraud is definitely not for you!

Tip for iwantu: Don't accept non-Western webmasters

sorry but

Fake Nick · 04-27-2005, 03:15 AM

funny thread; )

Lex Bed · 04-27-2005, 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fake Nick

funny thread; )

=)

Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE · 04-27-2005, 03:23 AM

Lex im curious to what site you were sending the traffic from

Lex Bed · 04-27-2005, 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaysin

Lex im curious to what site you were sending the traffic from

I don't want to put shame on guys sold me traffic.
Coz iwantu support said that traffic is low quality

evanmorgan · 04-27-2005, 06:11 AM

would iwantu have paid the 35k if the signup wasnt "fraudulant", no, they would have found some other reason not to pay... So what a bullshit excuse, if you dont want to pay then fine dont, but dont come up with some crappy excuse

Trax · 04-27-2005, 06:25 AM

IwantU simply created a stupid payout scale... I mean... how stupid do you have to be to not see the potentiality of fraud over there...
thats newbee'ish to say the least
more than 5 ways to abuse this system further come to my mind without them knowing i'd be abusing it
just because the traffic would be productive.
why have such a model anyways??

slapass · 04-27-2005, 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lex Bed

Thanks ;)
I don't think that iwantu will play dirty.

But you do not think you played dirty? By your own admission you were exploiting the situation.

Rui · 04-27-2005, 06:33 AM

iwantchixx - you need to lay off the crack pipe if you think this guy deserved to get paid...what a moron lol

Rui · 04-27-2005, 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantu

That is correct. 36,000 clicks this week with no signup at all! (not yet anyway)

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantu

That is correct. 36,000 clicks this week with no signup at all! (not yet anyway)

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantu

That is correct. 36,000 clicks this week with no signup at all! (not yet anyway)

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantu

That is correct. 36,000 clicks this week with no signup at all! (not yet anyway)

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantu

That is correct. 36,000 clicks this week with no signup at all! (not yet anyway)

Just in case you missed it

Brujah · 04-27-2005, 07:55 AM

A lot of scamming webmasters in this thread, sticking up for the guy frauding / abusing a program. Term them all !

RawAlex · 04-27-2005, 08:15 AM

Here's the thing: Almost anyone can, with very small traffic levels, get a 1:1 signup ratio on a given day. I have plenty of older sponsors that get occassional hits, and those programs occassionally convert. Myabe only 1 or 2 hits might have made it to the site this week, month, whatever, so my ratios look amazing.

Almost anyone can send 35k hits to a pay per click and have no signups. When you start looking at volume that large, traffic can start to get a little weak. Imagine for a minute 35k of redirect TGP skim hits. The chance these people are buyers is pretty slim, no? It gets even more slim if the traffic is generated through misleading spam, blind links, or 1x1 images... I don't know they methods used in this instance, this is all speculation on methods to generate traffic.

Shame on IwantU for having a promotion that didn't require a minimum number of signups and didn't check ratios before assigning the higher payout.

Shame on the webmasters (and his supporters) for attempting to turn shit traffic into gold by fucking iwantu over.

Greed is good - to the point where you are being obvious... why did you have to be so freaking greedy? was 2k or 3k not enough for your little scam?

Alex

BVF · 04-27-2005, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lex Bed

I don't want to put shame on guys sold me traffic.
Coz iwantu support said that traffic is low quality

now you're sounding fishy...There's only a few traffic brokers around so say who you bought it from OR you can say what site you sent it from.

That isn't hard...

Lex Bed · 04-27-2005, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF

now you're sounding fishy...There's only a few traffic brokers around so say who you bought it from OR you can say what site you sent it from.

That isn't hard...

I will say this info 2 iwantu in the private icq/email conversation without any problem.

Doctor Dre · 04-27-2005, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantu

Lex,

My apologies for not clarifying myself properly earlier, your account has not been blocked for spam. However, your payment has been reset to the minimum amount for 'potential fraudulent transaction'.

Last week, you referred one signup from one click, which is very odd, but yet, possible. This exact signup that you referred last week, turned out into a chargeback this week! Thus, this transaction has been flagged as fraudulent.

In consequence, your payout has been lowered this week for the minimum payout, instead of $1 per click, as you would have got. Your account is NOT blocked!

To answer some other concerns, we understand that Pay per Click program may not be the best program out there, however, we clearly specify in our terms:

Affiliates sending several hits from the same IP will immediately be cancelled and their payment blocked. We keep track of all IP addresses and log them for several months to prevent non-qualified repeated visitors.
Payments are issued every thursday of the week

If you have a low ratio, We will never switch you to another program, instead you will receive the minimum payout offered. We reserve ourselves the right to reset your payment to the minimum payout if we beleive you are intentionally frauding the weekly ratio structure.

Other programs we offer such as: Rev Share, Pay Per Signup, Pay per Profile do not have RATIO conditions.

Lex, for any further comments or questions, please do not hesitate to contact me by ICQ!

I smell bullshit on the CB part ... I just told you to tell the truth . You aiin't gonna pay 35 000 $ for 0 $ worth of signups, we all understand that . But now you are just caught up in some major bullshit.

Doctor Dre · 04-27-2005, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantu

The Pay per click program works on a one week base. You get paid Today based on last's week ratio. We did not totally flush him, we only reset his payout for this week, based on the correct ratio for last week. His ratio was last week end up being wrong, because the only signup he had resulted into a chargeback.

Hit me by ICQ if you have any further comments or questions.

Ok so you mean if I send 1 signup this week (1:1 ratio) , I'l get a buck a click next week ? If I sent 500k uniques, you will send me 500k $ ?

I highly doubt that ...

Doctor Dre · 04-27-2005, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tipsy

I'm curious how many of those saying 'pay the man' would do so if they were running the program. Nevermind, I bet I know the answer...

That said the whole idea behind it seems flawed but then just about every PPC sponsor developed a rep for doing the same else they wouldn't have stayed in business. The reason I've never used PPC and have little sympathy for those that do whoever the company is. Nobody will pay you more than your traffic's worth. It's also the reason very few companies will pay on a PPC basis these days.

I'm NOT saying to pay him ... I'm saying STOP BULLSHITTING .

Manowar · 04-27-2005, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantu

The affiliate was spamming.

He has now been blocked and his revenues should no longer appear in the top100!

Thanks

thats a lot of money to loose

mkx · 04-27-2005, 09:32 AM

IMO a fair solution to this matter would be for the affiliate to provide iwantu.com with proof and a receipt of where the traffic came from and iwantu to pay the affiliate the cost of the traffic if sufficient proof is provided. The terms seem to be misleading.

Thats just my opinion from what I read.

04-27-2005, 12:46 AM	#151
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04-27-2005, 12:53 AM	#152
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04-27-2005, 01:13 AM	#153
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04-27-2005, 01:43 AM	#159
Varius Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: New York, NY Posts: 6,890	Wow this was a long thread to read at 3am.... Now without looking at the guy's account, let me just summarize things into how I see it, based on the info in this thread: 1) Guy finds loophole in payout scale/system 2) Guy signs up himself, or has his friend signup, to exploit this loophole (this is just the likely situation, but may not be fact if I check things out...) 3) Signup is charged back in short period of time. Now to me, that would make his ratio for the first week be 0:1, which qualifies him for the lowest payout on the scale. Note: This situation has made us realize we should implement further rules to prevent the possibility it happens in very legit situations. For example, someone may send his quality traffic to us for one week, convert great, and get a good payout set for next week. Then buy all the junk traffic he can find, to send our way at a high price per click. This will be taken care of ASAP so things will work more on a daily basis and prevent chances of this occurring. However, from everything I can understand here and without speaking with Michael today about it, if that 1 signup charged back (not to mention so quickly - usually chargebacks come 1-2 months later), he has 0:1 ratio. __________________ Skype variuscr - Email varius AT gmail

04-27-2005, 01:13 AM	#154
Rictor Old Timer Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 12,208	Let me get this straight...some webmaster gets the clever idea to sent 1 click and 1 signup to Iwantu last period, which sets his payout for this period to $1.00 per click. Then he goes and buys some traffic at $5 per k. So for every $5 worth of crap traffic he sends, he expects Iwantu to pay him $1,000? I'm surprised this is the first guy to try this. I'm not surprised that they aren't going to pay him. Per click programs (such as Lensmans) have termed people for much less.

04-27-2005, 01:14 AM	#155
4Pics Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 7,952	did he send any profiles out of the 36k clicks?

04-27-2005, 01:56 AM	#161
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04-27-2005, 01:59 AM	#162
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04-27-2005, 02:07 AM	#166
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04-27-2005, 02:52 AM	#176
Varius Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: New York, NY Posts: 6,890	Lex, Before I head over to the airport in 10 mins (don't worry I"m not being sent to Russia to 'deal' with this situation hehe ;p), I just want to mention this: I have no doubt your traffic is legit, it's just of a low quality (atleast so far). There is nothing wrong with that, it's what PPC is there for. The issue is on the 1:1 ratio and apparent chargeback, with all signs there pointing to fraud. I will be out of town, but I'm sure this situation will be resolved properly. They always have been, if they hadn't, we wouldn't have survived so well since 1996 __________________ Skype variuscr - Email varius AT gmail

04-27-2005, 03:05 AM	#180
xxxice Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5,042	wow

04-27-2005, 03:10 AM	#181
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04-27-2005, 03:15 AM	#183
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04-27-2005, 03:23 AM	#185
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04-27-2005, 06:25 AM	#188
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04-27-2005, 06:33 AM	#190
Rui web Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: On icq: 85-483-060 Posts: 9,533	iwantchixx - you need to lay off the crack pipe if you think this guy deserved to get paid...what a moron lol

04-27-2005, 07:55 AM	#192
Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	A lot of scamming webmasters in this thread, sticking up for the guy frauding / abusing a program. Term them all ! __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

04-27-2005, 08:15 AM	#193
RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	Here's the thing: Almost anyone can, with very small traffic levels, get a 1:1 signup ratio on a given day. I have plenty of older sponsors that get occassional hits, and those programs occassionally convert. Myabe only 1 or 2 hits might have made it to the site this week, month, whatever, so my ratios look amazing. Almost anyone can send 35k hits to a pay per click and have no signups. When you start looking at volume that large, traffic can start to get a little weak. Imagine for a minute 35k of redirect TGP skim hits. The chance these people are buyers is pretty slim, no? It gets even more slim if the traffic is generated through misleading spam, blind links, or 1x1 images... I don't know they methods used in this instance, this is all speculation on methods to generate traffic. Shame on IwantU for having a promotion that didn't require a minimum number of signups and didn't check ratios before assigning the higher payout. Shame on the webmasters (and his supporters) for attempting to turn shit traffic into gold by fucking iwantu over. Greed is good - to the point where you are being obvious... why did you have to be so freaking greedy? was 2k or 3k not enough for your little scam? Alex

04-27-2005, 09:32 AM	#200
mkx Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Toronto Posts: 4,001	IMO a fair solution to this matter would be for the affiliate to provide iwantu.com with proof and a receipt of where the traffic came from and iwantu to pay the affiliate the cost of the traffic if sufficient proof is provided. The terms seem to be misleading. Thats just my opinion from what I read.