jonpotz

Why?

And now that he is failing in iraq (a war that shouldn't have been in the first place) and is destroying the world (killing our boys in iraq, taking down our judiciary system to fit his agenda, drilling in alaska, skyrocketing oil prices, sucking cock), do you feel you made a mistake?

Meta Ridley

I pick my nose.

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Sassy Girl

Get over it already. The election was 5 months ago. Move on with your life.

FunForOne

Someone got their DNC talking points memo a few months late.


HA HA HA

jonpotz

HAR HAR HAR HAR.

jonpotz

wow, i should have expected no serious answers on GFY.

thats why i love the place.

nobody has an opinion :P

steve90

well you are just a touch late on this whole subject.

also whining and bitching about it won't slove any thing

CDSmith

It's been talked to death here. Welcome to last year.

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project_naughty

You're not too bright are you, son?

Failing in Iraq != installing elections, getting rid of a tyrant and saving xxx,xxx lives.

Oil prices are mainly due to high world demand, mostly from the Chinese.

He is not killing your soldiers in Iraq. The jihadis are.

Wouldn't know about your legal system. I'm not American.

Drilling in Alaska. If only we could just magic oil out of thin air, eh?

Sucking cock? Is that something between only you and GW?

jonpotz

jihadis?

lol...

"Failing in iraq does not equal installing elections?"

That makes no sense....

"Wouldn't know about your legal system. I'm not American."

Good then stay out of it.

It sure is worth getting rid of a tyrant and at the same time having 2,000+ soldiers and countless innocents killed. <-insert sarcasm there.

Let's drill for oil in your hometown, maybe we will find some there, since we can't get oiil out of thin air. Or maybe i can tap your mommas ass and find some rich oil.

Man, where do all these surfers come from?

smack

amen to that. no one is changing their mind on either side. so it's fruitless to argue it now.

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Centurion

Yeah..some how I don't think anyone has changed their views and the same old stuff from both sides are going to be posted.

What is challenging is finding someone who can post something NEW & INSIGHTFUL about the world stage (and national also).

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Someone does not share your opinion so they become a surfer?

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jonpotz

nope, he PMed me on ICQ and said "listen buddy, i'm just a surfer. lets be friends".

so i said okay, its cool.

jonpotz

P.S.

Someone who doesn't share my opinion on IRAQ is a retard who doesn't get the facts and is scared of "the war on terror" or if you break it down..."the war on being afraid".

TERROR ALERT RAISED TO STFU.

project_naughty

It would do if you had a brain. Work it out. If Bush ahd failed, then there would have been no elections in Iraq. Seeing as there *were* elections, Bush has not failed.

Saddam was killing on average 50,000 of his own people per year. Since the start of the war around 12,000 civilians have died (according to moonbat claims, and in any case mainly at the hands of the jihadis).
So, 2 years = 100,000 dead under Saddam. But only 12,000 have been killed since = a net saving of 188,000 people, not including the babies they have had.
Around 1500 soldiers have died, which seems quite a good deal for bringing democracy to that little part of the world.

You're quite welcome to try. You won't find any though. And all the coal was used up a hundred years ago too. It's funny how everyone wants to drive and to buy goods transported using oil but are not too keen on having an oilwell in their backyard.

Out of yo mommas ass.

jonpotz

This election does not mean that the invasion and occupation of Iraq is legitimate ? democracy cannot be imposed at the point of a gun. The election, held under military occupation and not meeting international criteria, remains illegitimate; legitimacy is not determined by the number of people voting....

The U.S. has a long history of using elections held under conditions of war and occupation to legitimize its illegal wars - the January 2005 elections in Iraq mirror the 1967 election held in South Viet Nam , also held to give credibility to Washington 's puppet government.

Nothing like a 57% turnout at an election...

Dude, if your so joyess about seeing people from your own country killed to free people on the other side of the world, then why not go over there and fight your god damned self? Oh thats right, your too busy talking shit about how Americans should die to bring democracy to a country that has nothing to do with us fucking idiot. I have friends fighting over there in marines who say the whole war is bullshit and that they fear they are going to die everyday they go on a mission. Then we got you sitting from afar talking about how righteous it is to die for democracy in a country we had no business invading anyway. lol.

GFY.

project_naughty

You really are not very clever. Let me guess. You're 17 years old and have no experience of the world.

Bearing in mind that the Iraqis used to live under a genocidal maniac and now they have elections and a chance to make a better world for themsleves, an air of legitimacy has been lent to their situation.

I'm unaware of the elections not meeting international criteria but are these the same international criteria which allowed the Iraqis to live in misery for so long under the threat of torture and death without lifting a finger to help them? If so then I would suggest that the international criteria in question were not valid themselves.

Perhaps you should email your freinds and explain that as soldiers they have to expect that they might die and if they don't like it they should not have signed up in the first place.

There's no need for me to go and fight. I already give alot of money (for an individual) to causes which involve killing jihadis and promoting freedom in the place of religious fanatacism.

jonpotz

Just what I thought, you still have yet to explain why our soldiers are over there.

It's not our fight, bin laden isn't in iraq. Hussein didn't topple the towers... No WMDs like your savior said. Your dead wrong and so was Bush. Face the facts, you were jedi mind tricked and still are till this day. No sense in argueing with you either.

If it was the right thing to do to go over and just invade a country on reasons of "Iraqis used to live under a genocidal maniac and now they have elections and a chance to make a better world for themsleves, an air of legitimacy has been lent to their situation.", then why didn't all countries band together and fight for this right and just cause? Why was it put on American's shoulders?

You have nothing good to say because your brainwashed.

Plus, like everyone else who support Bush you have the same insult. "What are you <insert age here>?" Basically saying because I don't follow the Bush logic it must be because I am younger than you. Your nuts man.

Your nuts and your scared otherwise you would shut your fucking stupid mouth and go kill in Iraq.

"I sent money", keep your money, you will need it for gas.

Peace bitch.

jonpotz

P.S.

Your sending money to people who are killing the same people you want to help.

jonpotz

Okay, as the leader of this thread, I deem myself the winner in this argument.

I'm gonna go take a shower and go get drunk in the mountains with my friends.

Allah u Akbar!

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Alex

what do you base as a victory in iraq.
Do we get a point for every person we kill?

Do you know why we are in Iraq?

Are you older than 11?

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No. I'd do it again.

1) Who says we're losing? The insurgency is slowly crumbling. The terrorists that shot down that chopper and executed the American security specialist last week were turned in by THREE Iraqi citizens and are now in custody. The insurgents are murdering many Iraqis and they appear to be getting sick of it

2) The judiciary is out of control. The bill that was passed in in the Schiavo case was approved by the house, senate, and then the prez. It was ignored by the Federal judge involved.

3) Drilling in ANWR ..... Good. Less depedency on Middle east oil.

4) What control does Bush have over oil prices.? Last time I looked, it was a free market and gasoline is a lot cheaper in the USA than the rest of the world.

5) It terms of sucking cock, you appear to have your presidents confused. That was the perjurer Bill Clinton.

This is supposed to be an adult webmaster board. Why not take this uninformed political drivel over to the democraticunderground.com and join the other losers and whiners over there?

Rich

They tell Americans that they're winning the war in Iraq. Like they tried to do in Vietnam, only they're more efficient now because they're completely eliminated real journalism.

Rich

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power182

My favorite part is you bitch about high oil prices AND drilling in Alaska in the same quote...... do you not see the irony. But seriously, Bush only did one of those (the war in iraq) and if you cant see some good in it your just as blind as him, just in the opposite way. A president can only do so much, stop placing so much blame in one spot.

FunForOne

How fucking stupid are you?

NetRodent

Joy. Yet another moron ranting about people being "brainwashed". Its really sad that you can't conceive of a world where people hold different opinions without them being "brainwashed".

In the immortal words of Bugs Bunny, "what a maroon!"

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Downtime

dude the election was in November, you know how to read a calendar? get over it!

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Rich

Where the people who supported Hitler brainwashed, or did they just have different opinions than the rest of the world?

The fact that almost none of the people who voted for Bush knew the truth about the major issues is very telling. What, something like 45% of America thought they had found WMD in Iraq, and that's far from the only example. Maybe it's not brainwashing but it's certainly close to it.

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Rich

Funforone, enough with the fake characters alright? It's obvious and very, very sad.

MrLuvr

If the war in Iraq is a success why are there still 150,000 troops over there? After the moron declared "Mission Accomplished"?

Americans are getting blown out of the sky and being bombed at every turn and these morons think that the war in Iraq is a success!

They are getting ass fucked without lube.

Just a matter of time before the Americans are kicked out of Iraq in defeat.

aico

All Hail Jon the Putz, the all knowing & all seeing mesiah!!!

FunForOne

Shut up kid,

I shamed you when I showed the board what you really are.

Now get lost, grown folks are trying to do business here.

Rich

First of all, what business are you doing in this thread? Come to think of it, what business have you ever done here? Whoring for sig views doesn't count.

Secondly, if you honestly think you've ever "shamed" me, or shown anyone on this board anything, you're more delusional than I ever could have imagined. If you honestly believe your ranting and attempts and muddying my posts with your nonsense have worked at "discrediting me", you're a fucking psychopath. Not one person here gives a shit what you have to say, one day you're going to have to face that. You should realize that when you have to resort to making fake nicks to agree with yourself, but I realize you're not the sharpest tool in the drawer.

Keep laughing at your own jokes with fake characters that have 15 posts, we're all very impressed. Too bad no one else ever laughs with you. It is however funny how seriously you take yourself, that certainly makes me laugh.

Now call me a stupid kid again and walk away thinking you've made a point.

VeriSexy

Poor planning, air strikes by coalition forces and a "climate of violence" have led to more than 100,000 extra deaths in Iraq, scientists claim.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3962969.stm


Study puts Iraqi toll at 100,000

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/10/29/iraq.deaths/

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Liberal propaganda. Plus, those people attacked the WTC and they were building nuclear weapons to use against the USA, so their children deserve to die.

VeriSexy

Civilian death toll in Iraq exceeds 100,000

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn6596

Death toll of Iraqi civilians tops 100,000, study says

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...333734,00.html

Study Puts Iraqi Deaths of Civilians at 100,000

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/29/in...d24 8&ei=5070

100,000 Iraqi civilians dead, says study

http://www.informationclearinghouse....rticle7170.htm

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VeriSexy

Yup, all Iraqi men women and children should die cause Bush said so

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directfiesta

and also tried to kill Dubya father....

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SuckOnThis

Debates between you and Rich are comparable to the first Bush Kerry debate, but I'm sure you take that as a compliment

VeriSexy

WTF, those sand niggas are fighting back!!! We are trying to liberate them from Saddam. Let's nuke those rag heads and turn it into glass!!!!!!

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"We have "solid" evidence Iraq possesses weapons of mass destruction." GW - December 6, 2002

"Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction." Dick Cheney - August 26, 2002

Not a failure for Bushco and Halliburton, but a failure of the American people for buying into this bullshit, and even more of a failure for people like you that still support it.


So in the last year and a half the Chinese population has suddenly almost doubled? Its no different than if a milkman became president and the price of milk went to $10 a gallon, use some common sense for christ sakes.


Then shut the fuck up.

Rich

lol, good call. The main difference being that Bush didn't walk away thinking he had "shamed" anyone.

Isidoro Cañones

Well, guess who is not very cleaver.
Do you know from where Saddam got all those tech to gass their own people? Do you know that after Desert Storm more than 500.000 childrens died in Iraq due the embargo?
Do you know that Saddam Hussein have the Key City of detroit?
Do you know that he got it in the same time that he was gassin to the Iranian? and the USA was the only country against a sanction to Iraq?
Do you know that 1 day before to the invasion of Kuwait, Saddam got a credit for 40.000 millions?

I have a long sheet of facts that I guess, you don't know.

Promoting freedom, that is the funniest past of your whole post, promote freedom, ask to the people in Latin America how USA promoted freedom here, how do they educated to our militar in torture techniques in the School of America, ask to Agustin Allende, how the CIA overthrowed he elected goverment to put in power to the genocide of Augusto Pinochet, or in Argentina, where 30.000 died with the pupet goverment imposed by the USA.

Ask to the Iranian if they are happy of how USA armed to Saddam to the teeth to kill them, because the decided to overthrow the puppet goverment of the Sha in Iran.

Kid, go and get some history books, stop of jerking yourself and then come back with some knowledge.

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directfiesta

It's not fair ... You base your argument on facts, documented on top of it ....

So it doesn't count, it is now considered as lies, propaganda.....

Everyone knows that the USA spreads freedom.... And Saddam was evil: he gassed 10 million people, his own ...

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