iBill Revshares

[MickeyG]

Has anyone heard anything at all regarding revshares? No one has mentioned anything about them or their past due amounts. I know theres a settlement deal for the master accounts but what happened to the revshares. Are the revshare monies included in the settlement? Are they now supposed to try and collect from the master account holders and not ibill?

Also has anyone heard anything at all regarding CURRENT revshare payments? On March 1st, March 15th, April 1st, and April 15th iBill deducated the revshare monies from our master account payouts but did not send the monies to the revshares.

Does anyone know whats going on?

[MacDaddyPlaya]

Maybe if they make enough money with XTV, revsharers will get paid out????

[FabianC]

Originally Posted by MacDaddyPlaya

Maybe if they make enough money with XTV, revsharers will get paid out????

"Slow your roll playa" ... XTV isn't owned by Ibill. Do you know who David Koenig is? Ever heard of holio? You need to settle down. I know everytime you hear XTV your cock gets hard but it's getting annoying.

Maybe if IBILL make enough money with MACDADDYBUCKS, revsharers will get paid out????

[MickeyG]

I would be interesting in knowing more about this XTV / iBill relationship too, is it true they used some of the monies from iBill as seed money for XTV?

[Beerbar]

As stated by the new president of ibill, the promised FD partial payment due "early this week at the latest" has yet to materialize. the past money owed is all going directly to the master account holder (if it ever gets paid) and the revshares will not be paid separately by ibill or FD. Or so that's how I understand it reading the promissory note they have.

[FabianC]

Originally Posted by MickeyG

I would be interesting in knowing more about this XTV / iBill relationship too, is it true they used some of the monies from iBill as seed money for XTV?

No. This statement is 100% false.

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by FabianC

No. This statement is 100% false.

Does Ibill have any type of relationship with XTV ???

If yes, what are they ???



PS: on many Ibill press releases, they mention their involvement in/with XTV....

Old Apache Saying:


Hughhh ! If see smoke, fire must be ....

[MacDaddyPlaya]

Originally Posted by FabianC

"Slow your roll playa" ... XTV isn't owned by Ibill. Do you know who David Koenig is? Ever heard of holio? You need to settle down. I know everytime you hear XTV your cock gets hard but it's getting annoying.

Maybe if IBILL make enough money with MACDADDYBUCKS, revsharers will get paid out????

Enough already....no, XTV isn't owned by iBill. However, iBill is owed by IBD, who also owns a big stake in XTV. You have been on this board over and over again denying it, why? Facts are facts, are you that ashamed of IBD that you can't admit their stake in XTV?

As for my affiliates, they are all piad on time, in full, every week.

CUT YOUR BULLSHIT, ADMIT THE TRUTH, AND GO FUCK YOURSELF.

[FabianC]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

Does Ibill have any type of relationship with XTV ???

If yes, what are they ???



PS: on many Ibill press releases, they mention their involvement in/with XTV....

Old Apache Saying:


Hughhh ! If see smoke, fire must be ....

No. Ibill has nothing to do with XTV. No "Ibill" money was used to fund XTV .. no "Ibill" processing is used to process for XTV .. "Ibill" has ZERO interest in XTV.

[MacDaddyPlaya]

Originally Posted by FabianC

No. Ibill has nothing to do with XTV. No "Ibill" money was used to fund XTV .. no "Ibill" processing is used to process for XTV .. "Ibill" has ZERO interest in XTV.

Fabian likes playing with semantics. The correct answer is yes, iBill does have a lot to do with XTV.

iBill is a "brand" owned by a company called Interactive Brand Development (IBD). IBD also happens to own a big piece of XTV. Put one and one together and there is a rather significant relationship between iBill and XTV.

[MickeyG]

Originally Posted by Beerbar

As stated by the new president of ibill, the promised FD partial payment due "early this week at the latest" has yet to materialize. the past money owed is all going directly to the master account holder (if it ever gets paid) and the revshares will not be paid separately by ibill or FD. Or so that's how I understand it reading the promissory note they have.

Are the master accounts given a breakdown of the monies so they know how much of it is supposed to goto the revshares?

[Adult Site Traffic]

Originally Posted by MacDaddyPlaya

As for my affiliates, they are all piad on time, in full, every week.

That's odd because I have members and re-bills with many of those sites and I still have traffic going to them that I can't find and shut off, but I haven't seen a copper cent since December.

That's a lot of weeks.

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[Calvinguy]

If you an affiliate of a Ibill EU client you will not be paid by ibill as these funds have been paid to the client.

[AdultX]

Originally Posted by Beerbar

As stated by the new president of ibill, the promised FD partial payment due "early this week at the latest" has yet to materialize. the past money owed is all going directly to the master account holder (if it ever gets paid) and the revshares will not be paid separately by ibill or FD. Or so that's how I understand it reading the promissory note they have.

I called them about the FD money being released "this week" and they told me no, by the end of the month, depending on when you agreed to the settlement.

[MacDaddyPlaya]

Originally Posted by Adult Site Traffic

That's odd because I have members and re-bills with many of those sites and I still have traffic going to them that I can't find and shut off, but I haven't seen a copper cent since December.

That's a lot of weeks.

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You are an affiliate of macdaddybucks.com? If so, please hit me up on ICQ and I will make sure your payout is paid this week.

[MickeyG]

Originally Posted by Calvinguy

If you an affiliate of a Ibill EU client you will not be paid by ibill as these funds have been paid to the client.

Ok that was for the past due amounts, but have they started paying CURRENT payments to the EU revshares? New transactions since the settlement I mean.

[Calvinguy]

Originally Posted by MickeyG

Ok that was for the past due amounts, but have they started paying CURRENT payments to the EU revshares? New transactions since the settlement I mean.

I doubt it as Ibill is still not paying their EU clients directly. Everything is going through Inteca

[MickeyG]

Originally Posted by FabianC

No. Ibill has nothing to do with XTV. No "Ibill" money was used to fund XTV .. no "Ibill" processing is used to process for XTV .. "Ibill" has ZERO interest in XTV.

If its true IBD owns both iBill and XTV how can you say they have nothing to do with each other?

[Adult Site Traffic]

Originally Posted by MacDaddyPlaya

You are an affiliate of macdaddybucks.com? If so, please hit me up on ICQ and I will make sure your payout is paid this week.

CSWCash, which you bought. Who gets to keep the Paycom master account that the sales and recurring were to be paid out by first party? I have signups going to those linking codes that I can't find to shut off, yet, the income was shut off.

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[MickeyG]

Originally Posted by Calvinguy

I doubt it as Ibill is still not paying their EU clients directly. Everything is going through Inteca

hmm I'd be interested in knowing for sure if they're being paid or not. Not that it means much but maybe it shows some sort of precidence for how they will handle the US revshares.

If it is true they are not still not paying EU revshares either, ibill is still acting as a huge crook, only now they're paying partial payments and pocketing the rest. Doesn't look as bad as their previous actions of pocketing everything.

These people make me sick. really.

[Adult Site Traffic]

Originally Posted by MickeyG

If it is true they are not still not paying EU revshares either, ibill is still acting as a huge crook, only now they're paying partial payments and pocketing the rest. Doesn't look as bad as their previous actions of pocketing everything.

The next processor that tanks will do the same thing. And the next. And the next.

That's how it works. They will do everything they can do to make sure they're not the ones who take the hardest fucking.

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[FabianC]

Originally Posted by MacDaddyPlaya

Enough already....no, XTV isn't owned by iBill. However, iBill is owed by IBD, who also owns a big stake in XTV. You have been on this board over and over again denying it, why? Facts are facts, are you that ashamed of IBD that you can't admit their stake in XTV?

As for my affiliates, they are all piad on time, in full, every week.

CUT YOUR BULLSHIT, ADMIT THE TRUTH, AND GO FUCK YOURSELF.

IBD owns a "big" stake in XTV? Really? Please elaborate. XTV has been in the making for over 2 years .. LONG before anyone ever heard of IBD or IBill's woes ... and nobody except for the original founders have a "big" stake in XTV.

Now listen up and pay attention .. I'm not going to repeat myself. Myself nor my company has anything to do with Ibill. Never have and never will.

IMHO the whole Ibill/IBD/Penthouse matter is simple .. IBD is an investment house .. a publicly traded company (at some point?) ... It appears they wanted to get into the adult business and bought into Penthouse. Since nobody has heard anything bad with the Penthouse deal I'd imagine it's doing well for them. Then at some point they decided to invest into the processing business ... Ibill by this point was crying for help and IBD moved in. From the looks of it though, IBD probably had no idea what kind of mess they were bitting into and have probably been kicking themselves since. Does this make IBD a bad company? Not in my eyes. In fact according to public statements made by their president, it appears they're trying to fix Ibill's past problems. Again, this is all just my opinion based off public documents.

Has IBD shown interest in getting into the set top box world? Yes. Do they control or own XTV? No. Yes, it really is that simple. Here are a few more facts for all the inquiring minds. Holio is the coca-cola of the content world. Holio is a MULTI-MILLION dollar company still making BANK. Holio is the founder of XTV and has invested TONS of liquid cash into XTV. There is NO reason for any stake to be given up especially when we already have money to begin with. Are you starting to see the truth? If not, look a little harder. I know all these 3-4 letter company names might confuse you but really it isn't that hard if you think about it, Playa.

I'm glad your affiliates are paid on time every time. My CECash affiliates were paid on time every time (and still are). My Dvdsforabuck affiliates were paid on time every time (and still are). XTVCash affiliates were paid on time every time (and still are). And the price of tea in China is currently $.69 cents a cup.

Since you're the official XTV hater president, feel free to call me directly and I'll happy to buy you a cup a tea while explaining it over and over again for you .. 818.309.7277

Peace .... and no hard feelings.

[FabianC]

Originally Posted by MickeyG

If its true IBD owns both iBill and XTV how can you say they have nothing to do with each other?

Again, IBD doesn't own XTV.

[MickeyG]

Originally Posted by FabianC

Again, IBD doesn't own XTV.

Thanks for the clarification

[FabianC]

Originally Posted by Adult Site Traffic

CSWCash, which you bought. Who gets to keep the Paycom master account that the sales and recurring were to be paid out by first party? I have signups going to those linking codes that I can't find to shut off, yet, the income was shut off.

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MacDaddyPlaya doesn't pay his affiliates and shaves signups? Ouch!!! Time to pull links!!!

[Adult Site Traffic]

Originally Posted by FabianC

MacDaddyPlaya doesn't pay his affiliates and shaves signups? Ouch!!! Time to pull links!!!

I was never his affiliate. My income from those sales and rebills died almost exactly the date of the sale of the program and the affiliate script was changed, but the traffic still flows through to the signup page.

But I was never his affiliate.

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[FabianC]

Originally Posted by Adult Site Traffic

I was never his affiliate. My income from those sales and rebills died almost exactly the date of the sale of the program and the affiliate script was changed, but the traffic still flows through to the signup page.

But I was never his affiliate.

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The point I was making was that MacDaddy reads a few words of an unfinished book and thinks he knows the whole story .. I was showing him the same. He's come into a bunch of threads with the same bullshit each time. He's probably scrambling right now to figure out how to clean his name on the shaving/non-paying issue.

[MacDaddyPlaya]

Originally Posted by FabianC

The point I was making was that MacDaddy reads a few words of an unfinished book and thinks he knows the whole story .. I was showing him the same. He's come into a bunch of threads with the same bullshit each time. He's probably scrambling right now to figure out how to clean his name on the shaving/non-paying issue.

LOL...yeah, I'm scrambling. Here is a link to the release, which is 100% true and you can verify through the SEC site, showing the consumation of IBD buying 25% of XTV.

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/050419/195108.html?.v=1

So, once and for all...IBD owns iBill and 25% of XTV. No ifs ands or buts about it. Not an unfinished book, not bullshit I keep bringing to the threads. The only one bringing bullshit to these threads is you with you constant denials of the facts.

[MacDaddyPlaya]

Originally Posted by FabianC

Again, IBD doesn't own XTV.

Nope, they only own 25% of XTV.

Interactive Brand Development, Inc. Acquires Strategic Stake In Video Over IP Network Provider, XTV, Inc.

[MacDaddyPlaya]

Originally Posted by Adult Site Traffic

I was never his affiliate. My income from those sales and rebills died almost exactly the date of the sale of the program and the affiliate script was changed, but the traffic still flows through to the signup page.

But I was never his affiliate.

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Please hit me up on ICQ 317553282. Tam owns all the Paycom rebills and corresponding affiliate payments.

[FabianC]

Originally Posted by MacDaddyPlaya

LOL...yeah, I'm scrambling. Here is a link to the release, which is 100% true and you can verify through the SEC site, showing the consumation of IBD buying 25% of XTV.

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/050419/195108.html?.v=1

So, once and for all...IBD owns iBill and 25% of XTV. No ifs ands or buts about it. Not an unfinished book, not bullshit I keep bringing to the threads. The only one bringing bullshit to these threads is you with you constant denials of the facts.

What have I denied? The only thing you keep wanting to shout from your soap box is that Ibill owns XTV and bla bla bla. Which isn't the case. As mentioned above I admitted that IBD (an investment house) has shown interest in XTV. I heard they were looking at CSWCash but .. well, nevermind. Anyway, do you have a point? Cuz if you do speak up .. if not, start paying your affiliates.

[FabianC]

Originally Posted by MacDaddyPlaya

Nope, they only own 25% of XTV.

Interactive Brand Development, Inc. Acquires Strategic Stake In Video Over IP Network Provider, XTV, Inc.

MacDaddyInvestigator!

[MickeyG]

Fabian after readng that article its quite obvious what you've said here is bullshit. 25% of a company certainly is a substantial amount, why are you acting so shady about the relationship between these companies?

[ronin]

Originally Posted by MacDaddyPlaya

Nope, they only own 25% of XTV.

Interactive Brand Development, Inc. Acquires Strategic Stake In Video Over IP Network Provider, XTV, Inc.

good read, thanks!

[MacDaddyPlaya]

Originally Posted by FabianC

What have I denied? The only thing you keep wanting to shout from your soap box is that Ibill owns XTV and bla bla bla. Which isn't the case. As mentioned above I admitted that IBD (an investment house) has shown interest in XTV. I heard they were looking at CSWCash but .. well, nevermind. Anyway, do you have a point? Cuz if you do speak up .. if not, start paying your affiliates.

Keep back peddling. Are you now seriously saying you never denied the relations hip between IBD and XTV? Let me refresh your memory:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...7&page=4&pp=50
Specifically, reply #198.

My point is plain and simple as it has always been. iBill is a wholly owned subsidiary of IBD. IBD owns a strategic 25% stake of XTV. I'm not on a soapbox, just feel people should understand who they are doing business with.

[sherie]

Originally Posted by MickeyG

Fabian after readng that article its quite obvious what you've said here is bullshit. 25% of a company certainly is a substantial amount, why are you acting so shady about the relationship between these companies?

What's so shady? He said that IBILL does NOT own XTV, nor does IBD the investment house, they invested money, 25% is hardly ownership.

Jesus, it's like fucking Groundhog day in here!

[FabianC]

Originally Posted by MickeyG

Fabian after readng that article its quite obvious what you've said here is bullshit. 25% of a company certainly is a substantial amount, why are you acting so shady about the relationship between these companies?

MickeyG .. for weeks MacDaddy has jumped into a lot of threads claiming that Ibill owned XTV and that XTV was funded with Ibills money, etc. It's obvious that statements like these can tarnish a company like XTV especially with respect to what people think about Ibill. I'm making it 100% clear that XTV isn't owned by Ibill or IBD. The original founders continue to control the company. XTV has been in the making for over 2 years and just recently IBD has shown investment interest. IBD has also been around longer than just Ibill .. there's a lot you guys don't understand. There's alot that I don't understand. Which is fine. My point again however is that XTV isn't seeded with any "your" money. As long as that's clear then MacDaddy can shout whatever he wants until he turns blue (but hopefully he first pays his affiliates .. or Tam pays or whatever)

[keyboard warrior]

All i can say is i would NOT promote XTV till all my PAST IBILL FUCKING MONEY IS PAID.

[FabianC]

Originally Posted by MacDaddyPlaya

Keep back peddling. Are you now seriously saying you never denied the relations hip between IBD and XTV? Let me refresh your memory:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...7&page=4&pp=50
Specifically, reply #198.

My point is plain and simple as it has always been. iBill is a wholly owned subsidiary of IBD. IBD owns a strategic 25% stake of XTV. I'm not on a soapbox, just feel people should understand who they are doing business with.

How am I Backpeddling? Let me ask you this, who is that you feel one would be doing business with if doing business with XTV? Select your words wisely.

[MacDaddyPlaya]

Originally Posted by FabianC

MickeyG .. for weeks MacDaddy has jumped into a lot of threads claiming that Ibill owned XTV and that XTV was funded with Ibills money, etc.... As long as that's clear then MacDaddy can shout whatever he wants until he turns blue (but hopefully he first pays his affiliates .. or Tam pays or whatever)

1. I did not make claims that iBill owned XTV. I kept pointing out the relationship between the 2 companies through IBD. A relationship you denied. Your exact quote was, "so believe me when I say that XTV is not IBD. David Koenig, the co-founder XTV, nor myself, have ever had anything to do with IBD".

2. My affiliates are all paid in full, every week. Uou just make yourself look even dumber than you already have by making personal attacks that are unsubstantiated.

[FabianC]

Originally Posted by keyboard warrior

All i can say is i would NOT promote XTV till all my PAST IBILL FUCKING MONEY IS PAID.

And why is that? Also, how much money has XTV lost because of this? (I'm not being sarcastic, I'm trying to judge actual losses)

[sherie]

Originally Posted by keyboard warrior

All i can say is i would NOT promote XTV till all my PAST IBILL FUCKING MONEY IS PAID.

Ahh now XTV is responsible for paying off IBILL debts? LMFAO you people can't be serious.

[MacDaddyPlaya]

Originally Posted by FabianC

How am I Backpeddling? Let me ask you this, who is that you feel one would be doing business with if doing business with XTV? Select your words wisely.

Excellent question Fabian. If I did business with XTV, I would feel like first and foremost I am doing business with the the people who founded and built XTV. No doubt about it.

However, I would also know that 25% of the profits made on the business I sent to XTV would be lining the pockets of IBD (iBill is a wholly owned subsidiary of IBD).

Now, is that enough for me not to do business with XTV? I really don't know. I just think it is fair that anyone faced with that decision understand the facts of who they are doing business with.

I personally think XTV has a good product, and will be successful. I wish no bad on anyone ever. I don't know you, never met you, and wish you nothing but the best.

[MickeyG]

Originally Posted by sherie

What's so shady? He said that IBILL does NOT own XTV, nor does IBD the investment house, they invested money, 25% is hardly ownership.

Jesus, it's like fucking Groundhog day in here!

hi Sherie, long time no talk

Personally I have no ill feelings toward xtv or Fabien, I think its a great idea and hope to see you guys make a huge success of it. I'm just looking for some clarification on some things and to me Fabian has been rather shady about this whole relationship for quite some time. Every press release out there about iBill in the past several months has had mention of iBill, IBD & XTV so its only natural for people to equate them together.

The thing is Fabien comes out and says theres no relationship between iBill and XTV and then 5 minutes later we find out IBD (Which owns ibill) has a 25% OWNERSHIP of XTV.

[FabianC]

Originally Posted by MacDaddyPlaya

1. I did not make claims that iBill owned XTV. I kept pointing out the relationship between the 2 companies through IBD. A relationship you denied. Your exact quote was, "so believe me when I say that XTV is not IBD. David Koenig, the co-founder XTV, nor myself, have ever had anything to do with IBD".

2. My affiliates are all paid in full, every week. Uou just make yourself look even dumber than you already have by making personal attacks that are unsubstantiated.

1. I continue to say that XTV is not IBD. IBD has simply invested into XTV. (also, my statement was made a month before IBD announced it had invested into XTV)

2. I'm just going by a statement made in this thread. One of the companies you own stopped paying and isn't tracking hits. How is that a "personal" attack? FYI, You saying "dumber" in a personal note is a personal attack (Me calling you a fucking wanker would be a personal attack!)

[MacDaddyPlaya]

Originally Posted by FabianC

1. I continue to say that XTV is not IBD. IBD has simply invested into XTV. (also, my statement was made a month before IBD announced it had invested into XTV)

2. I'm just going by a statement made in this thread. One of the companies you own stopped paying and isn't tracking hits. How is that a "personal" attack? FYI, You saying "dumber" in a personal note is a personal attack (Me calling you a fucking wanker would be a personal attack!)

Yes you made your statement a month earlier, but the letter of intent was already in place (12/3/04). No XTV isn't IBD, but IBD owns 25% of XTV, which is a very considerable, strategic stake.

I don't own any companies, and all my affiliates are paid in full, 100% every week. We bought some URLs and content from someone. They still own the rebills that are being processed as well as any revshare payouts on those rebills.

I do apologize for the personal attack and calling you dumb. Like I said, I have no ill will towards you or XTV. People should make their own decisions on who to do business with. However, they should be informed before making them.

[sherie]

Originally Posted by MickeyG

hi Sherie, long time no talk

Personally I have no ill feelings toward xtv or Fabien, I think its a great idea and hope to see you guys make a huge success of it. I'm just looking for some clarification on some things and to me Fabian has been rather shady about this whole relationship for quite some time. Every press release out there about iBill in the past several months has had mention of iBill, IBD & XTV so its only natural for people to equate them together.

The thing is Fabien comes out and says theres no relationship between iBill and XTV and then 5 minutes later we find out IBD (Which owns ibill) has a 25% OWNERSHIP of XTV.

Heya Mickey...it sure has been!

Regarding Fabian being "shady" he hasn't been shady, the deal just went through recently. IBD is an investment house, I'm sure I don't have to explain to anyone what that means. IBD was around before XTV and around before IBILL. There is not a cut and dry answer here. There are many factors I would assume with this whole IBILL and IBD deal. However, the point that we are trying to make is that XTV was around before IBILL started having problems, there were investors outside of IBD prior to all of the IBILL shit. XTV has not been funded with monies owed by IBILL, how could they when IBILL doesn't even have access to it's own money? It's just getting tiresome having MacDaddy try to tarnish the reputation of a company that has done nothing wrong, infact it's down right obnoxious how he continues to make his statements regarding IBILL and XTV, like XTV is the one that fucked webmasters out of money, which we all know is not the case.

[MickeyG]

well now that all that's out of the way, Does anyone know what happened to my revshare money??? hEHehe

[FabianC]

Originally Posted by MacDaddyPlaya

Yes you made your statement a month earlier, but the letter of intent was already in place (12/3/04). No XTV isn't IBD, but IBD owns 25% of XTV, which is a very considerable, strategic stake.

I don't own any companies, and all my affiliates are paid in full, 100% every week. We bought some URLs and content from someone. They still own the rebills that are being processed as well as any revshare payouts on those rebills.

I do apologize for the personal attack and calling you dumb. Like I said, I have no ill will towards you or XTV. People should make their own decisions on who to do business with. However, they should be informed before making them.

No worries, it's GFY and I don't take anything personal. I've understood your point from the beginning and I agree that webmasters should be informed. The information I've provided and keep providing states that they're doing business with me and with David Koenig. Not will IBD and especially NOT with Ibill. What Ibill has done to webmasters had definitely had a negative impact. However, it appears that Ibill's new owner is making an attempt to clean up the mess. To me, that's a class act if it follows through. Even if it doesn't I'm not going to blame IBD because Ibill had their problems lined up way before anyone heard of IBD. Again, IBD is an investment firm getting into the adult game. Would you turn down money from IBD to improve your program? Like I said before, I welcome anyone to give me a call if they have any questions regarding XTV. David and I come from a long history of running successful companies, making webmasters millions of dollars, and are one of the few remaining honest people in this business. That isn't going to change.

[MacDaddyPlaya]

Originally Posted by sherie

Heya Mickey...it sure has been!

Regarding Fabian being "shady" he hasn't been shady, the deal just went through recently. IBD is an investment house, I'm sure I don't have to explain to anyone what that means. IBD was around before XTV and around before IBILL. There is not a cut and dry answer here. There are many factors I would assume with this whole IBILL and IBD deal. However, the point that we are trying to make is that XTV was around before IBILL started having problems, there were investors outside of IBD prior to all of the IBILL shit. XTV has not been funded with monies owed by IBILL, how could they when IBILL doesn't even have access to it's own money? It's just getting tiresome having MacDaddy try to tarnish the reputation of a company that has done nothing wrong, infact it's down right obnoxious how he continues to make his statements regarding IBILL and XTV, like XTV is the one that fucked webmasters out of money, which we all know is not the case.

Sherie,

I am not trying to tarnish anyone's reputation, just clarifying a fact that has been denied over and over agian. Now that the truth is finally out, and finally admitted to, the point is moot.

IBD (owner of iBill) owns a significant, 25% strategic stake in XTV. Thats all I ever claimed and the only point I wanted to make. Now that its out, let people decided for themselves, based on the facts, who they wish to do business with.