Ok is it just me or Is CCbill scrubing rather badly - GoFuckYourself.com

Bake · 04-12-2005, 07:09 PM

And CCbill dont offer to look into it or offer to contact me because you never fucking do it.

ProjectNaked · 04-12-2005, 07:37 PM

- no problems that I've noticed -

fusionx · 04-12-2005, 07:43 PM

I probably need to call their support.. my traffic has doubled through SE and good recip links over the last three weeks. My sales have gone completely to shit. Doesn't make much sense.

I'm getting almost twice as many clicks to the sponsors.. waaayy under normal sales with half the traffic for two weeks now.

Babagirls · 04-12-2005, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bake

And CCbill dont offer to look into it or offer to contact me because you never fucking do it.

Mutt · 04-12-2005, 07:49 PM

CCBILL is a mystery.

Stewie · 04-12-2005, 07:49 PM

Yes, we were in the CCBill offices today, and I personally saw Ron turn up the scrub dial on the thermostat in his office. He also keeps a dart board next to his desk, so he can choose the rate for each scrub change.

They don't sit there with a button, playing with their policies and algorithms just to mess with you. The more money you make, the more money they make.

ProjectNaked · 04-12-2005, 07:52 PM

you may want to check the final destinations of your traffic, 404's, errors, shitty changes, etc...

Pornwolf · 04-12-2005, 07:52 PM

Drama? Yes, I think it is.

SteveLightspeed · 04-12-2005, 07:53 PM

I agree today is a slow day -- but with the amount of money I owe in taxes, I'm not in a buying mood today either!

Steve Lightspeed

Rebecca Love · 04-12-2005, 07:56 PM

My sales were double from yesterday. It comes in waves.....

With all this discussion. Has someone ever come up with hard evidence of scrubbing from CCBill. How do you prove it? Have twenty friends sign up and see who doesn't get billed?

Mutt · 04-12-2005, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewie

Yes, we were in the CCBill offices today, and I personally saw Ron turn up the scrub dial on the thermostat in his office. He also keeps a dart board next to his desk, so he can choose the rate for each scrub change.

They don't sit there with a button, playing with their policies and algorithms just to mess with you. The more money you make, the more money they make.

it's obvious to people when CCBILL goes into one of its 'moods'. and most of us really don't know much of what's entailed in being an IPSP. We all know they'd like to be pushing through as many sales as possible - but it wouldn't hurt to know why and when this happens. Frustrating for people who have bought major spots on big TGPs to be at the mercy of a third party processor, frustrating for everybody.

Stewie · 04-12-2005, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt

it's obvious to people when CCBILL goes into one of its 'moods'. and most of us really don't know much of what's entailed in being an IPSP. We all know they'd like to be pushing through as many sales as possible - but it wouldn't hurt to know why and when this happens. Frustrating for people who have bought major spots on big TGPs to be at the mercy of a third party processor, frustrating for everybody.

I would say it is not IPSP that changes, but the quality/status of the surfers credit, including monthly patterns based on their income and spending.

Bake · 04-12-2005, 08:08 PM

when Im 14,000 to 0 over 4 sponsors that Ive been using for years and have a average of 400 to 1 with I begin to wonder.

stevo · 04-12-2005, 08:52 PM

CCbill looking good over here, probably close to one of my top 10 sales days...

Sosa · 04-12-2005, 09:14 PM

today hasn't been the greatest with em but I have periods of 2-3 days kicking ass, then 2-3 of suckass days. Up and downs

TheSaint · 04-12-2005, 09:41 PM

Ccbill is always pretty good for me but does scrub a little extra hard. Most of the signups that ccbill rejects for my site (maybe 90%) go through a backup processor and go through clean and never have a problem.

My only problem with ccbill is that they accept a lot of questionable billing practices (having an asterisk instead of explaining that it is recurring, etc.).

Those sites I would assume have a higher chargeback rate forcing ccbill to scrub a bit more on the rest of us - in other words them allowing that is costing me money.

Mutt · 04-12-2005, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSaint

My only problem with ccbill is that they accept a lot of questionable billing practices (having an asterisk instead of explaining that it is recurring, etc.).

do you have an example of this we can see?

thanks

TheSaint · 04-12-2005, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt

do you have an example of this we can see?

thanks

Uh, I hesitate to pick on anybody cause its some well known guys here...

But the signup looks like this:

30 days recurring at $xx.xx
90 days non-recurring at $xx.xx
30 days* at $xx.xx

The asterisk on the last one leads to a note buried at the bottom that this is also a recurring membership, but its obviously designed to trick the surfer.

Donny · 04-12-2005, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fusionx

I probably need to call their support.. my traffic has doubled through SE and good recip links over the last three weeks. My sales have gone completely to shit. Doesn't make much sense.

I'm getting almost twice as many clicks to the sponsors.. waaayy under normal sales with half the traffic for two weeks now.

You're not alone. My traffic was great the last week and sales sucked ass.

But I honestly don't think it was CCBill.

Donny · 04-12-2005, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewie

Yes, we were in the CCBill offices today, and I personally saw Ron turn up the scrub dial on the thermostat in his office. He also keeps a dart board next to his desk, so he can choose the rate for each scrub change.

They don't sit there with a button, playing with their policies and algorithms just to mess with you. The more money you make, the more money they make.

Exactly.

EddiePulp · 04-12-2005, 10:18 PM

I have noticed this too.. I have tripled my se traffic to ccbill sites.. normally converting at under 1:100 ... this week.. ccbill sites 1:500

Major (Tom) · 04-12-2005, 10:37 PM

ccbill scrubs each webmaster, and each webmasters subaccount differently. They do this so its virtually impossible to figure out when they scrub. If they did it all at once it would be so easy to fraud them, or, webmasters to get together to swop info and switch them in the casgade, by which they could loose 100's of thousands of dollars.
Usually a post like this will not get you answers, but what it does do is calm fears at least. I mean if Steve is having a bad day, I dont feel as bad

lol
cheers
Duke

Bansheelinks · 04-12-2005, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewie

They don't sit there with a button, playing with their policies and algorithms just to mess with you. The more money you make, the more money they make.

Thats only half true. Their first overriding priority is protecting their merchant account, and to do that they have devised a scrubbing system that I feel is pretty intense. Basically if you get a CB with them they will scrub you dramatically and drastically. I have noticed this time and time again. Your account needs to fall into 'safe' parameters with them or else you will be scrubbed raw until it does.

However what really pisses me off are the times when its obvious that their scrubbing umbrella affects you and your sites yet you had no CB's at all lately. This I am guessing is being done to get their overall CB ratio picture in line with safe parameters. Thats when I feel innocent webmasters are suffering at the hands of those that have higher CB's rates as CCBill is trying to protect its overall merchant acct.

Varius · 04-12-2005, 10:52 PM

CCBill are doing what they need to do, to keep their bank happy and thus stay in business. Personally, I would prefer having to deal with harder scrubbing, than facing another large processor going under

The best way to deal with the scrub, is to speak with your rep. They are there to take care of you and your money

xenigo · 04-12-2005, 10:58 PM

Guess what. High traffic or low traffic doesn't translate to high sales or low sales. What it translates to is simply high exposure or low exposure.

Sales come in when you've beat that site into that surfers head 20 times and one night when he's really horny, and his wife's sleeping, he comes back to that site you've been reminding him of, and he rewards you with a signup.

Bottom line, sales don't correspond with peaks or valleys in traffic.

AaronM · 04-12-2005, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddiePulp

I have noticed this too.. I have tripled my se traffic to ccbill sites.. normally converting at under 1:100 ... this week.. ccbill sites 1:500

I'm seeing the exact same thing.

The Other Steve · 04-12-2005, 11:59 PM

Bake

Hit me up on 211 172 496

I've got a link for you that you might find interesting

sixxxthsense · 04-13-2005, 12:04 AM

i actually converted good today

adonis · 04-13-2005, 12:45 AM

My CB+Refund ratio is generally low, actually 0% in March and April. But I see tons of declines and rebill fails lately. Most of declined people could join via CCbill in the past. Sometimes my backup processor brings twice signups than the primary processor CCbill.

I also think that people in some areas cannot see the signup forms sometimes, because I track all clicks to join buttons, some guys click the same button several times with 1-2 minutes intervals.

Bake · 04-13-2005, 01:33 AM

For a start Im no newbie Ive been in this buisness for 6 years and I have never had stats of 14,000 to 0 come on now that 14k of hits and not a single sale in a day?
Thanks for advice and I do understand but it dosent mean Im not pissed Im pushing over 10 mps in BW per day and I still have to pay for that. This is my personal account we also run a another account for the office here and its more and less normal with the same or simualr sponsors.
Rant over Im off drinking.

Centurion · 04-13-2005, 01:38 AM

Something also to remember is that it's TAX TIME!

Ain't nothing that will wilt your dick like a shit load of money going out for taxes. So, even if your just paying $1000..that's a lot of money to a lot of people, and cuts down on their discretionary spending.

beemk · 04-13-2005, 01:52 AM

two words: cascade billing

for the record ccbill is my favorite.

Dirty Dane · 04-13-2005, 02:02 AM

I had more rebills than sales, even traffic is higher

Weekend was bad, sunday and monday good, tuesday catastrophic.

Getting used to it, and learned that spread the traffic is the only way to live with it.

Bansheelinks · 04-13-2005, 07:11 AM

I think they did or are doing server maintenance sometime today. Maybe a ccbill rep can come on here and report if that will screw up the stats, or cause a delay in reporting sign ups, today.

Twe Russ · 04-13-2005, 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewie

Yes, we were in the CCBill offices today, and I personally saw Ron turn up the scrub dial on the thermostat in his office. He also keeps a dart board next to his desk, so he can choose the rate for each scrub change.

They don't sit there with a button, playing with their policies and algorithms just to mess with you. The more money you make, the more money they make.

No need to get all sarcastic and shit, you dont hold the candle in Rons office
so dont talk shit like you know any better, for all we know he could have
updated his scrub list with another reputable source, or added a new scrubbing
formula.

"The more money you make the money they make"? You are once again an
idiot because a better scrub system will prevent chargebacks, refunds etc.

Bansheelinks · 04-13-2005, 07:28 AM

lotsa tempers on this thread

Rui · 04-13-2005, 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rebecca Love

My sales were double from yesterday. It comes in waves.....

With all this discussion. Has someone ever come up with hard evidence of scrubbing from CCBill. How do you prove it? Have twenty friends sign up and see who doesn't get billed?

fusionx - here is the person that stole your sales ;) lol j/k

Cains · 04-13-2005, 07:41 AM

Odd actually, my stats appear to have frozen on one program, I clicked a sponsor link on my site to test this and it still hasn't updated my stats...

Been like this for 2-3 days

Bansheelinks · 04-13-2005, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rebecca Love

Has someone ever come up with hard evidence of scrubbing from CCBill. How do you prove it?

Rebecca they freely admit to scrubbing.........they'd be crazy not to and would lose their merchant account overnite if they didnt and would incur massive fines from visa and mc.

Its the process of them doing so that has everyone up in arms, not to mention the incredible inconsistencies that drive us webmasters crazy.

Bansheelinks · 04-13-2005, 08:01 AM

.........and i'm talking about scrubbing, not shaving. there has been no evidence presented of them shaving.

MrVids · 04-13-2005, 08:23 AM

ya, it's been pretty heavy this week, it would seem.

Martin · 04-13-2005, 08:49 AM

Fuck CCBill.

JFK · 04-13-2005, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewie

I would say it is not IPSP that changes, but the quality/status of the surfers credit, including monthly patterns based on their income and spending.

Right on Stewie, if some of you had attended the Billing seminar in Phoenix, you would have them explain this very situation. They Do not have days when they turn up the scrub.

Fetish · 04-13-2005, 09:02 AM

Our sales are the same as usual. We do not use CCbill though.

MrVids · 04-13-2005, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK

Right on Stewie, if some of you had attended the Billing seminar in Phoenix, you would have them explain this very situation. They Do not have days when they turn up the scrub.

YOU'RE A FUCKIN SCRUB!

bringer · 04-13-2005, 09:04 AM

what annoys me is it seems like they're constantly playing catch up
nearly nothing until 5-6pm and then sales flood in
ive also noticed at 2-3am my sales may equal $500 for the previous day but around 9-10am the jump up about %15

power182 · 04-13-2005, 09:12 AM

Quote:

"The more money you make the money they make"? You are once again an
idiot because a better scrub system will prevent chargebacks, refunds etc.

yes they scrub to prevent things like CBs and refunds. However he is correct, they take a portion of you profits. You dont make the sale they dont get a share. So dont be so critical, he is correct as are you. One thing to remember. They arent going to scrub harder to avoid fines. Fines are based on a percent of volume, chargebacks take time to come in so they are delayed but sales are not. If they srub hard today it wont matter because their scrub from months past is what matters for chargebacks today. Its just not logical.

gxer · 04-13-2005, 09:51 AM

i have major traffic changes last 3 weeks or so.
Traffic way down , sales are up and down.
I suspect (still checking) there was a major changes in the upstream providers network configuration, probably some other but BIG ISP changes in US and probably EU.
Also, with this slowdown of traffic i considered a very bad product from trades. I spoke with a few TGP owners and they have the same situation with their sites as well.
Plus, you can add to this issues another well known: during slowdowns "somebody" always buys millions of Asian traffic and this traffic going to trades and you get this traffic from your affiliates and this traffic affects your conversions.
My conclusion:
this slowdown is not related with Pope funerals, taxes time etc and it just takes time to prove - it's a major tech issue + some country/ISP started to filter particular IP's of well known adult hosts or even filter adult content.

Twe Russ · 04-13-2005, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by power182

yes they scrub to prevent things like CBs and refunds. However he is correct, they take a portion of you profits. You dont make the sale they dont get a share. So dont be so critical, he is correct as are you. One thing to remember. They arent going to scrub harder to avoid fines. Fines are based on a percent of volume, chargebacks take time to come in so they are delayed but sales are not. If they srub hard today it wont matter because their scrub from months past is what matters for chargebacks today. Its just not logical.

"Fines are based on a percent of volume, chargebacks"

You just said it yourself, once again I am correct.

JFK · 04-13-2005, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrVids

YOU'RE A FUCKIN SCRUB!

Yeah Ok

04-12-2005, 07:09 PM	#1
Bake Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Outback of bumfuck Aussie Posts: 5,381	Ok is it just me or Is CCbill scrubing rather badly And CCbill dont offer to look into it or offer to contact me because you never fucking do it. __________________ Buy great domains from drunken burned out old webmaster CHEAP bullseyeporn.com art-met.com and more. Learn how to make a easy extra $500 per week

04-12-2005, 07:49 PM	#5
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	CCBILL is a mystery. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

04-12-2005, 07:52 PM	#8
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	Drama? Yes, I think it is. __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

04-12-2005, 07:53 PM	#9
SteveLightspeed Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Lightspeedworld Posts: 7,940	I agree today is a slow day -- but with the amount of money I owe in taxes, I'm not in a buying mood today either! Steve Lightspeed __________________ Abra-cadabra!

04-12-2005, 07:56 PM	#10
Rebecca Love Skinemax BQueen Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Las Vegas NV Posts: 2,145	My sales were double from yesterday. It comes in waves..... With all this discussion. Has someone ever come up with hard evidence of scrubbing from CCBill. How do you prove it? Have twenty friends sign up and see who doesn't get billed? __________________ Kisses, Rebecca Love "Skinemax BQueen of Late-Nite" www.RebeccaLove.com

04-12-2005, 07:37 PM	#2
ProjectNaked Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Detroit Areola Posts: 4,309	- no problems that I've noticed -

04-12-2005, 07:43 PM	#3
fusionx Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Olongapo City, Philippines Posts: 4,618	I probably need to call their support.. my traffic has doubled through SE and good recip links over the last three weeks. My sales have gone completely to shit. Doesn't make much sense. I'm getting almost twice as many clicks to the sponsors.. waaayy under normal sales with half the traffic for two weeks now.

04-12-2005, 07:49 PM	#6
Stewie Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: In bed with Vanilla Posts: 3,670	Yes, we were in the CCBill offices today, and I personally saw Ron turn up the scrub dial on the thermostat in his office. He also keeps a dart board next to his desk, so he can choose the rate for each scrub change. They don't sit there with a button, playing with their policies and algorithms just to mess with you. The more money you make, the more money they make.

04-12-2005, 08:08 PM	#13
Bake Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Outback of bumfuck Aussie Posts: 5,381	when Im 14,000 to 0 over 4 sponsors that Ive been using for years and have a average of 400 to 1 with I begin to wonder. __________________ Buy great domains from drunken burned out old webmaster CHEAP bullseyeporn.com art-met.com and more. Learn how to make a easy extra $500 per week

04-12-2005, 08:52 PM	#14
stevo Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 2,051	CCbill looking good over here, probably close to one of my top 10 sales days...

04-12-2005, 09:14 PM	#15
Sosa In Tushy Land Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 40,149	today hasn't been the greatest with em but I have periods of 2-3 days kicking ass, then 2-3 of suckass days. Up and downs

04-12-2005, 09:41 PM	#16
TheSaint Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Everywhere at once Posts: 991	Ccbill is always pretty good for me but does scrub a little extra hard. Most of the signups that ccbill rejects for my site (maybe 90%) go through a backup processor and go through clean and never have a problem. My only problem with ccbill is that they accept a lot of questionable billing practices (having an asterisk instead of explaining that it is recurring, etc.). Those sites I would assume have a higher chargeback rate forcing ccbill to scrub a bit more on the rest of us - in other words them allowing that is costing me money. __________________ I have no signature

04-12-2005, 10:18 PM	#21
EddiePulp Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Australia iCQ:408018496 Posts: 1,332	I have noticed this too.. I have tripled my se traffic to ccbill sites.. normally converting at under 1:100 ... this week.. ccbill sites 1:500 __________________ I dont need a sig.

04-12-2005, 10:37 PM	#22
Major (Tom) White Pride Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Null Posts: 30,853	ccbill scrubs each webmaster, and each webmasters subaccount differently. They do this so its virtually impossible to figure out when they scrub. If they did it all at once it would be so easy to fraud them, or, webmasters to get together to swop info and switch them in the casgade, by which they could loose 100's of thousands of dollars. Usually a post like this will not get you answers, but what it does do is calm fears at least. I mean if Steve is having a bad day, I dont feel as bad lol cheers Duke __________________ WHITE LIVES MATTER

04-12-2005, 10:52 PM	#24
Varius Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: New York, NY Posts: 6,890	CCBill are doing what they need to do, to keep their bank happy and thus stay in business. Personally, I would prefer having to deal with harder scrubbing, than facing another large processor going under The best way to deal with the scrub, is to speak with your rep. They are there to take care of you and your money __________________ Skype variuscr - Email varius AT gmail

04-12-2005, 10:58 PM	#25
xenigo Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Oakland, CA Posts: 8,067	Guess what. High traffic or low traffic doesn't translate to high sales or low sales. What it translates to is simply high exposure or low exposure. Sales come in when you've beat that site into that surfers head 20 times and one night when he's really horny, and his wife's sleeping, he comes back to that site you've been reminding him of, and he rewards you with a signup. Bottom line, sales don't correspond with peaks or valleys in traffic.

04-12-2005, 11:59 PM	#27
The Other Steve Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Sunny Queensland - perfect one day and better the next. Posts: 2,106	Bake Hit me up on 211 172 496 I've got a link for you that you might find interesting __________________ Left intentionally blank ... just like my brain

04-13-2005, 12:04 AM	#28
sixxxthsense Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,421	i actually converted good today

04-13-2005, 12:45 AM	#29
adonis Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 231	My CB+Refund ratio is generally low, actually 0% in March and April. But I see tons of declines and rebill fails lately. Most of declined people could join via CCbill in the past. Sometimes my backup processor brings twice signups than the primary processor CCbill. I also think that people in some areas cannot see the signup forms sometimes, because I track all clicks to join buttons, some guys click the same button several times with 1-2 minutes intervals.

04-13-2005, 01:33 AM	#30
Bake Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Outback of bumfuck Aussie Posts: 5,381	For a start Im no newbie Ive been in this buisness for 6 years and I have never had stats of 14,000 to 0 come on now that 14k of hits and not a single sale in a day? Thanks for advice and I do understand but it dosent mean Im not pissed Im pushing over 10 mps in BW per day and I still have to pay for that. This is my personal account we also run a another account for the office here and its more and less normal with the same or simualr sponsors. Rant over Im off drinking. __________________ Buy great domains from drunken burned out old webmaster CHEAP bullseyeporn.com art-met.com and more. Learn how to make a easy extra $500 per week

04-13-2005, 01:38 AM	#31
Centurion Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: SeATtle Posts: 6,033	Something also to remember is that it's TAX TIME! Ain't nothing that will wilt your dick like a shit load of money going out for taxes. So, even if your just paying $1000..that's a lot of money to a lot of people, and cuts down on their discretionary spending. __________________

04-13-2005, 01:52 AM	#32
beemk CLICK HERE Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 20,829	two words: cascade billing for the record ccbill is my favorite. __________________ I host with Vacares

04-13-2005, 02:02 AM	#33
Dirty Dane Sick Fuck Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: www Posts: 9,491	I had more rebills than sales, even traffic is higher Weekend was bad, sunday and monday good, tuesday catastrophic. Getting used to it, and learned that spread the traffic is the only way to live with it.

04-13-2005, 07:11 AM	#34
Bansheelinks Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 6,023	I think they did or are doing server maintenance sometime today. Maybe a ccbill rep can come on here and report if that will screw up the stats, or cause a delay in reporting sign ups, today.

04-13-2005, 07:28 AM	#36
Bansheelinks Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 6,023	lotsa tempers on this thread

04-13-2005, 07:41 AM	#38
Cains Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 407	Odd actually, my stats appear to have frozen on one program, I clicked a sponsor link on my site to test this and it still hasn't updated my stats... Been like this for 2-3 days

04-13-2005, 08:01 AM	#40
Bansheelinks Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 6,023	.........and i'm talking about scrubbing, not shaving. there has been no evidence presented of them shaving.

04-13-2005, 08:23 AM	#41
MrVids i am a meat popsicle Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,070	ya, it's been pretty heavy this week, it would seem.

04-13-2005, 08:49 AM	#42
Martin "Assassins" Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: At home Posts: 17,277	Fuck CCBill. __________________

04-13-2005, 09:02 AM	#44
Fetish Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 823	Our sales are the same as usual. We do not use CCbill though.

04-13-2005, 09:04 AM	#46
bringer i have man boobies Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: van down by the river Posts: 13,082	what annoys me is it seems like they're constantly playing catch up nearly nothing until 5-6pm and then sales flood in ive also noticed at 2-3am my sales may equal $500 for the previous day but around 9-10am the jump up about %15 __________________ 333-765-551

04-13-2005, 09:51 AM	#48
gxer Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Location Posts: 846	i have major traffic changes last 3 weeks or so. Traffic way down , sales are up and down. I suspect (still checking) there was a major changes in the upstream providers network configuration, probably some other but BIG ISP changes in US and probably EU. Also, with this slowdown of traffic i considered a very bad product from trades. I spoke with a few TGP owners and they have the same situation with their sites as well. Plus, you can add to this issues another well known: during slowdowns "somebody" always buys millions of Asian traffic and this traffic going to trades and you get this traffic from your affiliates and this traffic affects your conversions. My conclusion: this slowdown is not related with Pope funerals, taxes time etc and it just takes time to prove - it's a major tech issue + some country/ISP started to filter particular IP's of well known adult hosts or even filter adult content. Last edited by gxer; 04-13-2005 at 09:53 AM..