Convicted spammer sentenced to 9 years - GoFuckYourself.com

SuckOnThis · 04-08-2005, 10:48 AM

I hope this sticks, send these fucking spammers a message.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7432555/

LEESBURG, Va. - A man convicted in the nation's first felony prosecution for illegal spamming was sentenced to nine years in prison Friday, but the judge postponed the sentence while the case is appealed.

Loudoun County Circuit Judge Thomas Horne said that because the law targeting bulk e-mail distribution is new and raises constitutional questions, it was appropriate to defer the prison time until appeals courts rule.

Jeremy Jaynes was convicted in November for using false Internet addresses to send mass e-mail ads through an AOL server in Loudoun. Prosecutors said Jaynes sent more than 10,000 spam e-mails over three days in July 2003 from his Raleigh, N.C., area home, using the Internet to peddle sham products and services such as a "FedEx refund processor."

A jury had recommended the nine-year prison term.

Jaynes told the judge that regardless of how the appeal turns out, ?I can guarantee the court I will not be involved in the e-mail marketing business again.?

Lisa Hicks-Thomas, the prosecutor, said she was pleased with the ruling and confident that the law would be upheld on appeal.

?We?re satisfied that the court upheld what 12 citizens of Virginia determined was an appropriate sentence ? nine years in prison,? said Hicks-Thomas.

mrthumbs · 04-08-2005, 10:50 AM

9 years is too much

liquidmoe · 04-08-2005, 10:50 AM

So for one burst of spam that was only 10,000 emails he gets 9 years? Im certainly against spam, but that is a bit ridiculous considering how much long term spammers send, I mean I have a mailbox with more than 17,000 spam emails, I think 9 years is way overboard.

BradM · 04-08-2005, 10:52 AM

9 years for spamming.
Homicide: Average sentence = 12.4 years. Average time served = 5.9 years.

Fucked up.

cheekycherry · 04-08-2005, 10:52 AM

I hate spammers but 9 years is WAAAAY too much.

hydro · 04-08-2005, 10:54 AM

He's stupid for just not settling with whoever was suing him. Theres really no defence in a spam case. You either own the domains/servers or you don't and no company will go after you unless they know for sure its you.

sumphatpimp · 04-08-2005, 10:54 AM

in those nine years he can teach alot of other cons how to spam.
fuck that.
shoot em!

DarkJedi · 04-08-2005, 10:55 AM

muhahaha, nice

SuckOnThis · 04-08-2005, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradM

9 years for spamming.
Homicide: Average sentence = 12.4 years. Average time served = 5.9 years.

Fucked up.

Federal is different than state, which is what I'm sure your numbers refer to because in Federal sentences you must serve 90% of the sentence.

CDSmith · 04-08-2005, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrthumbs

9 years is too much

You're right. They should have hanged him.

SmokeyTheBear · 04-08-2005, 10:57 AM

wtf 9 years for 10k emails ??

HAHAH i get 10k of spam to my own accounts over 3 days thats insane. I could hook the feds up with 1000 people to send to jail for 9 years

Advanced Intellect · 04-08-2005, 10:58 AM

hahaha,

I can't wait to see some of you in jail.

You're white trash to begin with.

You will fit right in!

Rilose · 04-08-2005, 10:59 AM

more like 4 months..that is INSANE for 10k emails....seriously, that is just mental!

Manowar · 04-08-2005, 10:59 AM

muggers and robbers get worse than that. thats BS - it's a white collar crime, he should be fined, not jailed.

Cassie · 04-08-2005, 11:00 AM

9 years is ludicrous for a non violent crime.

TheLegacy · 04-08-2005, 11:00 AM

forget jail.. give the spammers to us

we'll set them up in a conference room in vegas - invite all the gay webmasters - then have the spammers asses tattooed with the phrase, "opt in"

problem solved

Tipsy · 04-08-2005, 11:02 AM

I hate to go with the majority but WTF? 9 years for a relatively small amount of spam is crazy. The guy deserves a short stint inside but 9 years????

Rui · 04-08-2005, 11:03 AM

HAHAHAHAAHAH GREAT NEWS...going to get some manlove for only 9y...life is great eh ;)

SmokeyTheBear · 04-08-2005, 11:03 AM

wait wait wait , i just re-read that , he was using forged headers..

THAT is fucked up , i HATE people who do that .. someone is using one of my domains for that shit and when i find the guy i will pull his teeth out one by one

SuckOnThis · 04-08-2005, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrthumbs

9 years is too much

9 years is a lot but there needs to be a message sent. Spam has destroyed any legitimacy the internet had. It is the seed of most scams, and it has caused legitimate businesses to get their email blocked or trashed through spam filters.
Not to mention all the resources it uses that we all pay for.

CAHEK · 04-08-2005, 11:09 AM

Jaynes sent more than 10,000 spam e-mails over three days

DeanCapture · 04-08-2005, 11:10 AM

Should have gotten 20.

Time to send a message to spammers that spamming is unlawful and people are tired of it.

iwantchixx · 04-08-2005, 11:12 AM

That's fucking bullshit, not saying he doesn't deserve it but how do they justify giving someone 9 years for spamming when I could go out, rape a 2 year old and be scott free in 3 months??

The legal system is fucked.

TaDoW · 04-08-2005, 11:12 AM

spamming would be the WORST fuckin thing to go to prison for ... everyone would know you were a nerd and you'd get your ass busted in half day 1 ... and every morning after that

Radical Rick · 04-08-2005, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hydro

He's stupid for just not settling with whoever was suing him. Theres really no defence in a spam case. You either own the domains/servers or you don't and no company will go after you unless they know for sure its you.

The prosecution probably wasn't interested in settling it out of court. If this case is not overturned by appeal it'll go into case law and will precede other future cases.

nnweb · 04-08-2005, 11:16 AM

9 years is way too much.

1 year I could see and even that is too much.

You can go kill and get off in 3 years.

foxylady · 04-08-2005, 11:18 AM

too bad for them

Sosa · 04-08-2005, 11:21 AM

damn 9 years for that little bit. crazy

Dirty F · 04-08-2005, 11:21 AM

9 years eh? You get less if you kill someone in Holland.

Fucking insane.

polish_aristocrat · 04-08-2005, 11:24 AM

Tony Montana · 04-08-2005, 11:24 AM

It wasn't just for spam. He was scamming people also.

Manowar · 04-08-2005, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CAHEK

Jaynes sent more than 10,000 spam e-mails over three days

tranza · 04-08-2005, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradM

9 years for spamming.
Homicide: Average sentence = 12.4 years. Average time served = 5.9 years.

Fucked up.

IF he gets 9 years do you really think he'll SERVE 9 years? I don't think so. He'll be out in 4 years...

Froey Twe · 04-08-2005, 11:26 AM

thats sick!

Rochard · 04-08-2005, 11:33 AM

As much as I hate spam myself, I fail to understand why it's illegal. Before I drop kicked my home phone I got three or four calls a night from telemarketers. And it's become difficult to figure out which mail from the post office is real compared to junk mail.

Za Ha · 04-08-2005, 11:36 AM

Very good!
They should give more to the top guys and send a message that it must stop.
A Texas death sentance would do the trick.

SuckOnThis · 04-08-2005, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantchixx

That's fucking bullshit, not saying he doesn't deserve it but how do they justify giving someone 9 years for spamming when I could go out, rape a 2 year old and be scott free in 3 months??

The legal system is fucked.

What the fuck are you talking about? Who the hell gets 3 months for raping a 2 year old? This myth that people get barely any time in prison for crimes is bullshit, especially at the Federal level. There are thousands if not hundreds of thousands of people serving 10 year or more sentences simply for the posession of small amounts of drugs. There are over 2 million people in state and federal prisons now, you would be surprised at the sentences that are handed down these days.

vas · 04-08-2005, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CAHEK

Jaynes sent more than 10,000 spam e-mails over three days

lol, at that rate its a lifetime for you

rowan · 04-08-2005, 11:45 AM

I personally think 9 years is too much.

But it's a new legal realm. It obviously sends a clear message. That's the important thing.

iwantchixx · 04-08-2005, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

What the fuck are you talking about? Who the hell gets 3 months for raping a 2 year old? This myth that people get barely any time in prison for crimes is bullshit, especially at the Federal level. There are thousands if not hundreds of thousands of people serving 10 year or more sentences simply for the posession of small amounts of drugs. There are over 2 million people in state and federal prisons now, you would be surprised at the sentences that are handed down these days.

Myth?

Tell that to my girlfriend I had at age 17, and my girlfriend I had at age 20.

Both were RAPED by their grandfathers at age 2. The two perverts got 2.5 and 3.5 months.

KRL · 04-08-2005, 11:52 AM

I think this guy's been on GFY before.

digifan · 04-08-2005, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith

You're right. They should have hanged him.

sweetcuties · 04-08-2005, 11:53 AM

good, fuck him

BradM · 04-08-2005, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RocHard

As much as I hate spam myself, I fail to understand why it's illegal. Before I drop kicked my home phone I got three or four calls a night from telemarketers. And it's become difficult to figure out which mail from the post office is real compared to junk mail.

And you can't block or tell US mail not to deliver certain mail. Once they get it they are legally obligated to deliver it.

Sort of like a fake unsubscribe link eh?

smack · 04-08-2005, 11:55 AM

9 years for sending out 10k emails. that is fucking stupid.

Antonio · 04-08-2005, 12:04 PM

and at the time of his arrest was considered among the top 10 spammers in the world

prosecutors said Jaynes operation grossed up to $750,000 per month

There's nothing in that article about 10000 mails in three days, plus the guy was a SCAMMER as well::
used the Internet to peddle pornography and sham products and services such as a hahaha147;FedEx refund processor

SuckOnThis · 04-08-2005, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantchixx

Myth?

Tell that to my girlfriend I had at age 17, and my girlfriend I had at age 20.

Both were RAPED by their grandfathers at age 2. The two perverts got 2.5 and 3.5 months.

I would more be questioning why you keep attracting women that were raped by their grandfathers at age 2.

Furious_Male · 04-08-2005, 12:10 PM

The products he was pushing were scams. The old FedEx scam is what got him into deep water. This isnt so much about the sending of an email message itself it is what the content of the message was. Its one thing to spam a legit product and get heat but fraud is another.

The media and anti-spam people love to twist this like hes getting 9 years for just spamming something. He would have gotten time if he was handing these fliers out at a mall because of the fraud involved.

mardigras · 04-08-2005, 12:21 PM

9 years is excessive but switch your thoughts for a moment to the fact that many of those responsible for the most aggressive spam in your inbox are also the ones invading the voice side of your telephone line. The 10,000 UCE this spammer was charged with was most likely the tip of his iceberg and the easiest provable. There should be leniency for dumbasses that get caught up in a "get rich quick" scheme but those who know the system and aggressively work to defeat it should get fucked under the jail. Obey CAN SPAM and "do not call" and you can reach a bunch of people

who · 04-08-2005, 12:22 PM

50 Spamers in GFY.

04-08-2005, 10:48 AM	#1
SuckOnThis So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In my head Posts: 6,844	Convicted spammer sentenced to 9 years I hope this sticks, send these fucking spammers a message. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7432555/ LEESBURG, Va. - A man convicted in the nation's first felony prosecution for illegal spamming was sentenced to nine years in prison Friday, but the judge postponed the sentence while the case is appealed. Loudoun County Circuit Judge Thomas Horne said that because the law targeting bulk e-mail distribution is new and raises constitutional questions, it was appropriate to defer the prison time until appeals courts rule. Jeremy Jaynes was convicted in November for using false Internet addresses to send mass e-mail ads through an AOL server in Loudoun. Prosecutors said Jaynes sent more than 10,000 spam e-mails over three days in July 2003 from his Raleigh, N.C., area home, using the Internet to peddle sham products and services such as a "FedEx refund processor." A jury had recommended the nine-year prison term. Jaynes told the judge that regardless of how the appeal turns out, ?I can guarantee the court I will not be involved in the e-mail marketing business again.? Lisa Hicks-Thomas, the prosecutor, said she was pleased with the ruling and confident that the law would be upheld on appeal. ?We?re satisfied that the court upheld what 12 citizens of Virginia determined was an appropriate sentence ? nine years in prison,? said Hicks-Thomas.

04-08-2005, 10:50 AM	#3
liquidmoe Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NY Posts: 4,994	So for one burst of spam that was only 10,000 emails he gets 9 years? Im certainly against spam, but that is a bit ridiculous considering how much long term spammers send, I mean I have a mailbox with more than 17,000 spam emails, I think 9 years is way overboard. __________________ Take Luck!

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SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	wtf 9 years for 10k emails ?? HAHAH i get 10k of spam to my own accounts over 3 days thats insane. I could hook the feds up with 1000 people to send to jail for 9 years __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

04-08-2005, 10:59 AM	#13
Rilose Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: USA Posts: 565	more like 4 months..that is INSANE for 10k emails....seriously, that is just mental! __________________ GFX/WEB/PRINT r i l o s e @ h o t m a i l . d o t c o m

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Cassie Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 3,139	9 years is ludicrous for a non violent crime. __________________ ICQ: 309756847 ]

04-08-2005, 10:50 AM	#2
mrthumbs salad tossing sig guy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: mrthumbs*gmail.com Posts: 11,702	9 years is too much

04-08-2005, 10:52 AM	#4
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	9 years for spamming. Homicide: Average sentence = 12.4 years. Average time served = 5.9 years. Fucked up.

04-08-2005, 10:52 AM	#5
cheekycherry Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: N/A Posts: 1,703	I hate spammers but 9 years is WAAAAY too much.

04-08-2005, 10:54 AM	#6
hydro Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Dirty 3rd Posts: 4,216	He's stupid for just not settling with whoever was suing him. Theres really no defence in a spam case. You either own the domains/servers or you don't and no company will go after you unless they know for sure its you.

04-08-2005, 10:54 AM	#7
sumphatpimp Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 5,235	in those nine years he can teach alot of other cons how to spam. fuck that. shoot em!

04-08-2005, 10:55 AM	#8
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	muhahaha, nice

04-08-2005, 10:58 AM	#12
Advanced Intellect Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 118	hahaha, I can't wait to see some of you in jail. You're white trash to begin with. You will fit right in!

04-08-2005, 10:59 AM	#14
Manowar jellyfish Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 71,528	muggers and robbers get worse than that. thats BS - it's a white collar crime, he should be fined, not jailed.

04-08-2005, 11:00 AM	#16
TheLegacy SEO Connoisseur Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Brantford, Ontario Posts: 17,117	forget jail.. give the spammers to us we'll set them up in a conference room in vegas - invite all the gay webmasters - then have the spammers asses tattooed with the phrase, "opt in" problem solved __________________ SEO Connoisseur Microsoft Teams: Robert Warren SEO Telegram: @TheLegacy54 RobertWarrenSEO.com

04-08-2005, 11:02 AM	#17
Tipsy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: See sig Posts: 6,989	I hate to go with the majority but WTF? 9 years for a relatively small amount of spam is crazy. The guy deserves a short stint inside but 9 years???? __________________ Ignorance is never bliss.

04-08-2005, 11:03 AM	#18
Rui web Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: On icq: 85-483-060 Posts: 9,533	HAHAHAHAAHAH GREAT NEWS...going to get some manlove for only 9y...life is great eh ;)

04-08-2005, 11:09 AM	#21
CAHEK C.C.C.P. Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Novorossiya Posts: 7,047	Jaynes sent more than 10,000 spam e-mails over three days __________________ Pharma from True-Meds. High converting shop in Europe and USA, fast payouts via BTC !!!

04-08-2005, 11:10 AM	#22
DeanCapture Haters & Trolls SUCK! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 9,275	Should have gotten 20. Time to send a message to spammers that spamming is unlawful and people are tired of it. __________________ Twitter: @DeanCapture Instagram: @TheDeanCapture DeanCapture "at" Gmail.com

04-08-2005, 11:12 AM	#23
iwantchixx Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Boonies Posts: 12,860	That's fucking bullshit, not saying he doesn't deserve it but how do they justify giving someone 9 years for spamming when I could go out, rape a 2 year old and be scott free in 3 months?? The legal system is fucked.

04-08-2005, 11:12 AM	#24
TaDoW Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Where It Rains Posts: 3,875	spamming would be the WORST fuckin thing to go to prison for ... everyone would know you were a nerd and you'd get your ass busted in half day 1 ... and every morning after that __________________ -TaDoW I've Upped My Standards, Up Yours!

04-08-2005, 11:16 AM	#26
nnweb Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: OC Posts: 720	9 years is way too much. 1 year I could see and even that is too much. You can go kill and get off in 3 years.

04-08-2005, 11:18 AM	#27
foxylady Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,829	too bad for them __________________

04-08-2005, 11:21 AM	#28
Sosa In Tushy Land Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 40,149	damn 9 years for that little bit. crazy

04-08-2005, 11:21 AM	#29
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	9 years eh? You get less if you kill someone in Holland. Fucking insane.

04-08-2005, 11:24 AM	#30
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	__________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

04-08-2005, 11:24 AM	#31
Tony Montana Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 794	It wasn't just for spam. He was scamming people also. __________________ I am a marketing Genius.

04-08-2005, 11:26 AM	#34
Froey Twe Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,297	thats sick!

04-08-2005, 11:33 AM	#35
Rochard Jägermeister Test Pilot Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NORCAL Posts: 74,047	As much as I hate spam myself, I fail to understand why it's illegal. Before I drop kicked my home phone I got three or four calls a night from telemarketers. And it's become difficult to figure out which mail from the post office is real compared to junk mail. __________________ “The choice is no longer between right or left. The choice is between normal and crazy.” - Sarah Huckabee Sanders YNOT MAIL \| THE BEST ADULT MAILING SOLUTION

04-08-2005, 11:36 AM	#36
Za Ha Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Still lost Posts: 5,112	Very good! They should give more to the top guys and send a message that it must stop. A Texas death sentance would do the trick.

04-08-2005, 11:45 AM	#39
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	I personally think 9 years is too much. But it's a new legal realm. It obviously sends a clear message. That's the important thing.

04-08-2005, 11:52 AM	#41
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04-08-2005, 11:53 AM	#43
sweetcuties Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Somewhere Posts: 5,859	good, fuck him __________________

04-08-2005, 11:55 AM	#45
smack Push Porn Like Weight. Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Inside .NET Posts: 10,652	9 years for sending out 10k emails. that is fucking stupid. __________________ Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war.

04-08-2005, 12:04 PM	#46
Antonio Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Spartaaaaaaaaa Posts: 14,136	and at the time of his arrest was considered among the top 10 spammers in the world prosecutors said Jaynes operation grossed up to $750,000 per month There's nothing in that article about 10000 mails in three days, plus the guy was a SCAMMER as well:: used the Internet to peddle pornography and sham products and services such as a hahaha147;FedEx refund processor

04-08-2005, 12:10 PM	#48
Furious_Male Doing the grind since 99 Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Buffalo NY Posts: 16,881	The products he was pushing were scams. The old FedEx scam is what got him into deep water. This isnt so much about the sending of an email message itself it is what the content of the message was. Its one thing to spam a legit product and get heat but fraud is another. The media and anti-spam people love to twist this like hes getting 9 years for just spamming something. He would have gotten time if he was handing these fliers out at a mall because of the fraud involved. __________________ Living in Virtual Reality Contact: Email (preferred): furiousmale .at. gmail - Skype: live:shanedws