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Persius · 04-07-2005, 09:04 PM

its not legal right :S

Persius · 04-07-2005, 09:06 PM

... anyone?

Screaming · 04-07-2005, 09:07 PM

hmm i dont know i would ask someone that does know before doing it

Persius · 04-07-2005, 09:08 PM

well its something that happened already .... she fuckin lied... i just found out today

cambaby · 04-07-2005, 09:08 PM

Is she an American citizen?

PenisFace · 04-07-2005, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Persius

well its something that happened already .... she fuckin lied... i just found out today

Well, was the sex good, at least?

Love Brokers · 04-07-2005, 09:09 PM

Whats the law of the land?????????????? thats the question.

Spunky · 04-07-2005, 09:10 PM

Isn't the legal age of consent 16 in Europe?

Persius · 04-07-2005, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by cambaby

Is she an American citizen?

Yes........

Persius · 04-07-2005, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by PenisFace

Well, was the sex good, at least?

Mneh.........

steve90 · 04-07-2005, 09:11 PM

you are bound by the laws of the country you are in.

Redrob · 04-07-2005, 09:12 PM

If you have pics, it's child porn. You could go to jail for a long time.

SleazyDream · 04-07-2005, 09:14 PM

why are you even thinking about this?

Persius · 04-07-2005, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

why are you even thinking about this?

read the thread

Persius · 04-07-2005, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Redrob

If you have pics, it's child porn. You could go to jail for a long time.

no pics........

L0rdJuni0r · 04-07-2005, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Persius

well its something that happened already .... she fuckin lied... i just found out today

pretent you never heard the truth

tedwinters · 04-07-2005, 09:20 PM

Humm.. actually I've read that the USA passed a law, saying that all US citizens are bound by the US laws, regardless of the country they're in...
this is to reduce the amount of child-sex tourism that was going on...

however, I'm not 100% sure..

Fucksakes · 04-07-2005, 09:23 PM

what if you have a gf of legal age in canada and you go on a trip to another place where its illegal, that mean you cant have sex on vacation?

MrLuvr · 04-07-2005, 09:24 PM

What the fuck is it with 18? There are many states even in the US where the age of consent is below 18.

As a US citizen, you are supposed to abide the laws of the state where you live. If she is over the age of consent in your state, you are ok. If she is not, then legally it is statutory rape.

Mike Okitch · 04-07-2005, 09:24 PM

Unless she's threatened to do something to you about it, I wouldn't bother losing sleep over it.

If she did, get her on the stand in court and get her to admit that she lied about her age.

Rob · 04-07-2005, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tedwinters

Humm.. actually I've read that the USA passed a law, saying that all US citizens are bound by the US laws, regardless of the country they're in...
this is to reduce the amount of child-sex tourism that was going on...

however, I'm not 100% sure..

She didn't break any U.S. Laws...he did.

Persius is only bound by laws of the Country where he declares citizenship.

Rebel D · 04-07-2005, 09:37 PM

if you have to ask you probally shouldn;t

Michael O · 04-07-2005, 09:39 PM

In Denmark the age of consent is 15 as long as you didn´t pay her or you are in a position where you have some kind of responsibility over her, like her teacher or something like that then she has to be 18.
Other European countries have different rules and they are from 14-16 or there about in most countries.

Jakke PNG · 04-07-2005, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by HighOnAcid

She didn't break any U.S. Laws...he did.

No he didn't break any laws.. Well, depends how much under 18.. but I'd assume not 12.
18 = legal age to take good ole nudiepics all around.
14-16 = legal age to fuck, depending on state/country.

eroswebmaster · 04-07-2005, 09:41 PM

From http://www.ageofconsent.com

Sec. 2423. Transportation of minors

* (a) Transportation With Intent To Engage in Criminal Sexual Activity. - A person who knowingly transports any individual under the age of 18 years in interstate or foreign commerce, or in any Territory or Possession of the United States, with intent that such individual engage in prostitution, or in any sexual activity for which any person can be charged with a criminal offense, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.

* (b) Travel With Intent To Engage in Sexual Act With a Juvenile. - A person who travels in interstate commerce, or conspires to do so, or a United States citizen or an alien admitted for permanent residence in the United States who travels in foreign commerce, or conspires to do so, for the purpose of engaging in any sexual act (as defined in section 2246) with a person under 18 years of age that would be in violation of chapter 109A if the sexual act occurred in the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both.

KMR Stitch · 04-07-2005, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by eroswebmaster

From http://www.ageofconsent.com

Sec. 2423. Transportation of minors

* (a) Transportation With Intent To Engage in Criminal Sexual Activity. - A person who knowingly transports any individual under the age of 18 years in interstate or foreign commerce, or in any Territory or Possession of the United States, with intent that such individual engage in prostitution, or in any sexual activity for which any person can be charged with a criminal offense, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.

* (b) Travel With Intent To Engage in Sexual Act With a Juvenile. - A person who travels in interstate commerce, or conspires to do so, or a United States citizen or an alien admitted for permanent residence in the United States who travels in foreign commerce, or conspires to do so, for the purpose of engaging in any sexual act (as defined in section 2246) with a person under 18 years of age that would be in violation of chapter 109A if the sexual act occurred in the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both.

Sounds like pimping?

Transportation

Dagwolf · 04-07-2005, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by eroswebmaster

From http://www.ageofconsent.com

* (b) Travel With Intent To Engage in Sexual Act With a Juvenile. - A person who travels in ... for the purpose of engaging in any sexual act (as defined in section 2246) with a person under 18 years of age ...

So, it's like, OK to have sex with minors in foreign countries as long as that wasn't the reason you went (and as long as it's legal in that country).

In an unrelated story, Cambodian fishing tourism has increased drastically.

eroswebmaster · 04-07-2005, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagwolf

So, it's like, OK to have sex with minors in foreign countries as long as that wasn't the reason you went (and as long as it's legal in that country).

In an unrelated story, Cambodian fishing tourism has increased drastically.

That would be my understanding....you didn't know she was a minor and didn't travel out of the country with the sole intent of banging her...nor did you pay her to travel out of the country to have sex with you...but nothing like a good Johnny Cochran to asnwer this question for you.

Rob · 04-07-2005, 09:59 PM

Old man who is an American citizen travels to Bangkok to have sex with 14 year old girl = Illegal.

14 year old girl goes to Bangkok and has sex with old man = Lucky old man.

Am I the only one here that sees the fact that the only crime that could have possibly been commited was done by the party who's laws don't coincide the laws of the U.S. Citizen?

As long as the girl wasn't 10 - 13 then I think he's pretty safe. Everyone is quoting American law but the alleged possible offender has nothing more to do with the U.S. than posting on GFY. They are not going to extradite him and put him on some huge trial for having sex with a girl when it was legal in his country!!!

ModelPerfect · 04-07-2005, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by tedwinters

Humm.. actually I've read that the USA passed a law, saying that all US citizens are bound by the US laws, regardless of the country they're in...
this is to reduce the amount of child-sex tourism that was going on...

however, I'm not 100% sure..

I'm not sure that's completely accurate. I'm pretty sure you're bound by the law of the country you're in EXCEPT you can't pay or be paid for sex if the girl is under 16 years old. The law you refer to pertains to foreign or interstate commerce...i.e. paying, being paid, or arranging for sex in this case...but doesn't pertain to non-business consensual sex.

lloyd · 04-07-2005, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ModelPerfect

I'm not sure that's completely accurate. I'm pretty sure you're bound by the law of the country you're in EXCEPT you can't pay or be paid for sex if the girl is under 16 years old. The law you refer to pertains to foreign or interstate commerce...i.e. paying, being paid, or arranging for sex in this case...but doesn't pertain to non-business consensual sex.

my understanding, at least of canada, is that if you break a canadian law (as a canadian citizen) regardless of where you are its still illegal. US of course prolly diff.

reynold · 04-07-2005, 10:48 PM

I'm not familiar with Europe's law.

Paraskass · 04-07-2005, 10:50 PM

come to quebec. You can legally fuck a 14 year old.

cambaby · 04-07-2005, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Paraskass

come to quebec. You can legally fuck a 14 year old.

Are they good?

Icon · 04-07-2005, 11:32 PM

..... you'll likely catch an SDT?

Sly · 04-07-2005, 11:34 PM

Here's a better question... why did you go to Italy and fuck an American? You should be hitting those fine Italian asses!

maxdaname · 04-07-2005, 11:36 PM

Was she a better fuck than me?

Mr.Fiction · 04-07-2005, 11:43 PM

In case it is illegal, make sure you post that you did it on a public message board. It will help your lawyer in court if you get all of the facts out to the public as soon as possible.

andrej_NDC · 04-08-2005, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by spunky

Isn't the legal age of consent 16 in Europe?

15 in most countries, 12 in vatican I think, wonder why...

fl_prn_str · 04-08-2005, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by KMR Stitch

Sounds like pimping?

Transportation

Transportation falls under this:

?Mann Act?- Definition: In 1910, Congress passed the Mann Act which makes it a federal crime to transport individuals under the age of 18 across state lines to engage in any sexual activity.
The original intent of the law was to stop prostitutes from being moved from one locale to another or out of the country. It now also applies to an adult taking a consensual minor to another state.

Penalties can include being fined for $5,000, or imprisoned for 5 years, or both. The penalty could be doubled if a minor is involved.

brilsmurf · 04-08-2005, 12:12 AM

it is legal, as long as you dont get caught

Persius · 04-08-2005, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly

Here's a better question... why did you go to Italy and fuck an American? You should be hitting those fine Italian asses!

I did that as well .. but tourists were too easy.. the italians and locals are hard to get on....

polish_aristocrat · 04-08-2005, 01:45 AM

i can fuck her for you

$5 submissions · 04-08-2005, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Persius

its not legal right :S

It depends on the law of the jurisdiction where the act happened.

megatgpdotnet · 04-08-2005, 02:00 AM

I think she must be 15 to have legally sex.

As long as you are on an European territory - European laws apply, no matter what passport you carrying with you.

Pornopat · 04-08-2005, 02:02 AM

Run and ask for citizenship in Iceland...

webseth · 04-08-2005, 02:55 AM

sex tourism laws apply to US citizens everywhere, its 18

Mango · 04-08-2005, 03:00 AM

As others said, in this case the European Law will rule (depending on the individual country you're in). If you're 19 and she's 17, no-one will consider it as a problem unless she files a complaint and the judge has a bad day, but if you're like 40 and she's 16, she doesn't need to do a lot to get you in trouble...

Rui · 04-08-2005, 03:00 AM

Whats the matter player, you can't use your metroskills to get some older girls and need to go hit on underage kids...tskk tskk looks like a new pedo is in the works..

Tipsy · 04-08-2005, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by spunky

Isn't the legal age of consent 16 in Europe?

Europe isn't one country.

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