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Old 03-30-2005, 07:23 AM   #1
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:mad The Pope and Easter. WARNING: If you are easily offended, don't read.(Rant)

Now, I promised the guys I'd try to lay off the board with my extreme views, and although they are family...sorry, I coudn't resist. Plus, what fun is that?

To deny you myself and my opinions, would be a great injustice, for if I enlighten just one gfyer, I've lived a meaningful life. Ha ha ha.

Anyway Let start with Easter...what a bunch of fucking bullshit! Easter has Nothing, nada, zip, to do with the tyranny of Christianity. It was celebrated for thousands of years by pagans long before the massive mind control machine called the catholic church swept the globe clean of choice and dignity.

With that said, take off the stupid fuckin bonnet, and suit. And if you don't go to church for a fresh re-installment of propaganda on a weekly basis, then don't bother running out on Easter Sunday to show your family and neighbors that you are a "good Christian"...you are a fake and full of shit. Get robbed of your freedom of choice every Sunday, not just Easter Sunday which isn't your holiday anyway! If you did, shame on you.

Like most holiday's, Easter is one more that was forced to represent something having to do with Christ because the church knew damn well that Europeans were not going to stop celebrating it, and hell...they can't torture and kill everyone now can they? Who would fill those collection bowls. It makes me sick.

Ok, Now onto our cherished pope. First off the guy is barely alive, I would not be surprised if Henson Studios has a hand in his recent appearances. In fact he's probably been gone for years now. I am pretty sure I could see the cables in those newspaper photos where he lifts his hand.

And now everyone prays for the pope...when he finally does pass, ooooh the news is going to go nuts, all-night ceremonies, people crying, all that shit. It makes me wonder. QUESTION: If the Nazi's succeeded in WWII and ruled Europe today, exterminated 1/3 of the world population, and enforced it's socialist mind control views on us all. Would the world be mourning the sickness and eventual death of the furor?

Now I would hope your answer to the question above would be "Hell no!". But yet the pope is the leader of an organization that is credited with the genocidal extermination of upwards of 68,000,000 people mostly tortured until they begged for death. Not to mention the view of the church really don't differ all that much from the nazi philosophy. Take a look at the outline of Mein Kampf...change the words "nazi party" with "catholic church" and the name "God" with "the furor" and you'll see quite interestingly similar pieces of work. (seriousely, find some Nazi writing online and do a word replacement).

one blames the Jews, the other blames "Sinners, non-believers" or the devil an imaginary character that can be projected onto (or into) anyone that opposes the views of the church...how convenient.

But let me be clear, as a human being, I feel bad for the pope. I hope his life ends painlessly and peacefully. When he passes, I hope that being the figure head of a tyrannical mind controlling cult organization that caused such terror, oppression and death in our past several centuries helped him to grow in some way and does not effect him negatively in the next place. I do not hold what he represents against him, and I know that karmically it was meant to be.

As For Easter, it's crap people!..realize it now, embrace it. It's a fun thing to do with the kids, eggs, and bunnies...that's it! "God" has no hand in it.

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Old 03-30-2005, 07:24 AM   #2
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Old 03-30-2005, 07:25 AM   #3
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Old 03-30-2005, 07:41 AM   #4
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Although comparing the Catholic Church with Mein Kampf and Nazi's is a bit extreme I can see where you're coming from. The only addition I would make to the rant is the blatent statement that Religion is basically allowing yourself to be brainwashed by whatever paedophillic preacher you get that day, while the Fhurer's ideals were forced onto people... When you look back at history Hitler probably created better things for humanity than religion/religious collectives have. [Autobahn, Vauxwagon beetle]

Before anyone goes mental and says BUT [insert X religion here] has only done good, every religion has a past that if people bothered to research would make any sane person dismiss religion in a blink of an eye. How many people have actually bothered to read ALL the commandments, not just the oh so holy 10... have a quick read. ^^

... and don't give me any of this, but our religion hasn't performed mass genocide crap. I couldn't give a shit.

[/ End additional rant]
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Old 03-30-2005, 07:47 AM   #6
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Although comparing the Catholic Church with Mein Kampf and Nazi's is a bit extreme I can see where you're coming from. The only addition I would make to the rant is the blatent statement that Religion is basically allowing yourself to be brainwashed by whatever paedophillic preacher you get that day, while the Fhurer's ideals were forced onto people... When you look back at history Hitler probably created better things for humanity than religion/religious collectives have. [Autobahn, Vauxwagon beetle]

Before anyone goes mental and says BUT [insert X religion here] has only done good, every religion has a past that if people bothered to research would make any sane person dismiss religion in a blink of an eye. How many people have actually bothered to read ALL the commandments, not just the oh so holy 10... have a quick read. ^^

... and don't give me any of this, but our religion hasn't performed mass genocide crap. I couldn't give a shit.

[/ End additional rant]
How about Buddhism? Past present future peaceful. Thats right you don't give a shit thats why its a rant and has no facts.
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Although comparing the Catholic Church with Mein Kampf and Nazi's is a bit extreme I can see where you're coming from. The only addition I would make to the rant is the blatent statement that Religion is basically allowing yourself to be brainwashed by whatever paedophillic preacher you get that day, while the Fhurer's ideals were forced onto people... When you look back at history Hitler probably created better things for humanity than religion/religious collectives have. [Autobahn, Vauxwagon beetle]

Before anyone goes mental and says BUT [insert X religion here] has only done good, every religion has a past that if people bothered to research would make any sane person dismiss religion in a blink of an eye. How many people have actually bothered to read ALL the commandments, not just the oh so holy 10... have a quick read. ^^

... and don't give me any of this, but our religion hasn't performed mass genocide crap. I couldn't give a shit.

[/ End additional rant]
Pre 20th century the Church also forced it's views upon you.. If you didn't obey the church then you were burnt at the stake or had your head chopped off. If you were lucky they would just chain you up in a dungeon for 10 or 20 years.

Religion is the number one reason for wars throughout the history of mankind..
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Old 03-30-2005, 07:57 AM   #8
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Pre 20th century the Church also forced it's views upon you.. If you didn't obey the church then you were burnt at the stake or had your head chopped off. If you were lucky they would just chain you up in a dungeon for 10 or 20 years.

Religion is the number one reason for wars throughout the history of mankind..
I would of thought it was for land and resources with Religion only used to justify taking it by force.

Example: Caveman wants other Caveman's land, woman, gold. So he says if it rains this winter the Spirits agree with me.

Example: Sacking of Constantinople would of been proof that they(Crusaders) weren't there soley for religion.
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How about Buddhism? Past present future peaceful. Thats right you don't give a shit thats why its a rant and has no facts.
Buddhism, in and of itself, is not a religion as much as it is a philosophy of life. If anything, Buddha isn't worshipped, revered, yes, but not worshipped. It is his teachings that are studied and followed in order to obtain a more peaceful sense of being in one's life.

Buddhists don't consider Buddha a god at all. He is considered a great teacher and philosopher. Thus, with no god, Buddhism is not a religion.

Enjoy your facts.
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Religion only used to justify taking it by force.
This part of your statement is very correct. Religion was, (and still is, IMHO), used to do anything the government wanted, (or the individual if he could get enough believers behind him), all in the name of God.

Religion = mind control = control of the masses.
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Old 03-30-2005, 08:31 AM   #13
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This part of your statement is very correct. Religion was, (and still is, IMHO), used to do anything the government wanted, (or the individual if he could get enough believers behind him), all in the name of God.

Religion = mind control = control of the masses.
Yes I'll enjoy my facts. Look at #4

re·li·gion Audio pronunciation of "religion" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (r-ljn)
n.

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1. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.
2. A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.
2. The life or condition of a person in a religious order.
3. A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader.
4. A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion
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I ate fantastic (free) lamb when I visited my mom for easter. Don't knock holidays when you eat lamb, or turkey, or ham...or just eat..or drink.
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wonder if the holy church will go to the courts to have the feeding tube removed and let him go to God in peace
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Although comparing the Catholic Church with Mein Kampf and Nazi's is a bit extreme I can see where you're coming from. The only addition I would make to the rant is the blatent statement that Religion is basically allowing yourself to be brainwashed by whatever paedophillic preacher you get that day, while the Fhurer's ideals were forced onto people... When you look back at history Hitler probably created better things for humanity than religion/religious collectives have. [Autobahn, Vauxwagon beetle]

Before anyone goes mental and says BUT [insert X religion here] has only done good, every religion has a past that if people bothered to research would make any sane person dismiss religion in a blink of an eye. How many people have actually bothered to read ALL the commandments, not just the oh so holy 10... have a quick read. ^^

... and don't give me any of this, but our religion hasn't performed mass genocide crap. I couldn't give a shit.

[/ End additional rant]
Nicely put!
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if you don't like it, ignore it. it doesn't effect you. no one is forcing you to accept Christianity, celebrate Easter, or give two fucks about the Pope

get over yourself, while the Pope, the Catholic Church, and Christianity have millions of people that care, you will be lucky to find 5 people that give a flying fuck about about your whiney assed opinion.
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wonder if the holy church will go to the courts to have the feeding tube removed and let him go to God in peace
Probably not. The Cardinal taking his place would probably pull the plug himself.
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if you don't like it, ignore it. it doesn't effect you. no one is forcing you to accept Christianity, celebrate Easter, or give two fucks about the Pope

get over yourself, while the Pope, the Catholic Church, and Christianity have millions of people that care, you will be lucky to find 5 people that give a flying fuck about about your whiney assed opinion.
and by the same token, you do not have to read my posts. clearly some people are interested in what I say, and crazy as it is, some even agree. Maybe we should all just keep our opinions to ourselves ...this board would sure be interesting then huh?
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...you will be lucky to find 5 people that give a flying fuck about about your whiney assed opinion.
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easter to pretty much everyone i know consists of hiding fake eggs in the yard for the kids to find.. nothing more.
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Buddhism, in and of itself, is not a religion as much as it is a philosophy of life. If anything, Buddha isn't worshipped, revered, yes, but not worshipped. It is his teachings that are studied and followed in order to obtain a more peaceful sense of being in one's life.

Buddhists don't consider Buddha a god at all. He is considered a great teacher and philosopher. Thus, with no god, Buddhism is not a religion.

Enjoy your facts.
You may consider reading a bit more on the topic here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddism


See the section on "Relations with other faiths":

"In the Japanese religion of Shintoism Buddha is seen as a Kami (god)."




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Now thats something that I can agree upon
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God doesn't exist. Religion is total bullshit.

We don't know how existance ever came to be so saying there is a god is far fetched.

We will never know.

Damn years and years of religious evolution. It ruined society and free thought.

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Now thats something that I can agree upon
yeah, i agree with you! religion is just a competition between races, countries, etc.
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if you don't like it, ignore it. it doesn't effect you. no one is forcing you to accept Christianity, celebrate Easter, or give two fucks about the Pope

get over yourself, while the Pope, the Catholic Church, and Christianity have millions of people that care, you will be lucky to find 5 people that give a flying fuck about about your whiney assed opinion.

Well-said baddog. I agree with you.
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this works for posting as well..
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