I can't take it anymore!!!

[Snake Doctor]

Bad beats are fucking killing me.

Twice today I'm playing satellites to win a seat in the WSOP.

I get a guy all in with KJo.....I have AJs....he's got 3 cards in the deck that can help him.
Turn is a K...I'm out of the tourney.

5 minutes ago.
I move in with QQ.....get called by AQo.
Again only 3 cards in the deck that can help.
A comes on the flop....I'm out of the tourney.


Thank God I don't play for a living....then it would be really stressful.

[Babagirls]

huh??

[sonofsam]

Originally Posted by Lenny2

Bad beats are fucking killing me.

Twice today I'm playing satellites to win a seat in the WSOP.

I get a guy all in with KJo.....I have AJs....he's got 3 cards in the deck that can help him.
Turn is a K...I'm out of the tourney.

5 minutes ago.
I move in with QQ.....get called by AQo.
Again only 3 cards in the deck that can help.
A comes on the flop....I'm out of the tourney.


Thank God I don't play for a living....then it would be really stressful.

if A comes on the flop... doesn't that mean that he only has Pair of AA and you have Three of a kind .. meaning you win ?

[pornguy]

I think that it is another language. But we will have to wait until he says something else. Be quiet and listen. Maybe we can figure it out.

[Snake Doctor]

Originally Posted by sonofsam

if A comes on the flop... doesn't that mean that he only has Pair of AA and you have Three of a kind .. meaning you win ?

No because I had QQ and he had AQ.

Flop is A, K, 9.....he has a pair of aces I have a pair of queens.

I lose

[sonofsam]

Originally Posted by pornguy

I think that it is another language. But we will have to wait until he says something else. Be quiet and listen. Maybe we can figure it out.

no kidding eh

[chapecito]

BB and CC went to the river.. CC died.. who stayed alived? KP and HPD then SPT they took the LKM to the MDF and filled the RSP Number 9 just because the RSP number 8 was allready RIP HDP LPQTP QTR Q-LO P-N and they lived happily ever after...

[eroswebmaster]

Can't say if they are really "bad beats" or not...would depend on stage of tourney, chip size whatever...if you guys are both short stacked and the blinds are high the calls may not be bad calls..or if the guy has you covered and you're short stacked and no one else is calling...well you know.
IMO a bad beat is when you flop and you're like 90+% ahead and go all in and someone calls only to hit runner runner to beat you.

[Babagirls]

Originally Posted by pornguy

I think that it is another language. But we will have to wait until he says something else. Be quiet and listen. Maybe we can figure it out.

i just thought maybe my muscle relaxer was kickin in & i couldnt read it right

[Snake Doctor]

Originally Posted by pornguy

I think that it is another language. But we will have to wait until he says something else. Be quiet and listen. Maybe we can figure it out.

If you don't play poker then none of that will make sense to you.

But alot of GFY'ers do play.

I just needed to vent....the wife is sleeping so I couldn't whine about it to her.

[eroswebmaster]

In both instances they were a 3:1 dog...not truly horrendous if the pot is laying them odds to call.

[Snake Doctor]

Originally Posted by eroswebmaster

Can't say if they are really "bad beats" or not...would depend on stage of tourney, chip size whatever...if you guys are both short stacked and the blinds are high the calls may not be bad calls..or if the guy has you covered and you're short stacked and no one else is calling...well you know.
IMO a bad beat is when you flop and you're like 90+% ahead and go all in and someone calls only to hit runner runner to beat you.

We were both all in before the flop.....both times.

They had very similar stack sizes. If they had lost the hand they wouldn't have been out, but damn close to it.

You're right....hitting the flop big and then having a guy catch a two outer on the river hurts too.

[Snake Doctor]

Originally Posted by eroswebmaster

In both instances they were a 3:1 dog...not truly horrendous if the pot is laying them odds to call.

You can't get ahead by much more than 3:1 pre flop.

In both cases the only money in the pot was my all in bet...plug the big and small blinds.
They were getting MAX 1.5 to 1 on their money.

The AQ I can almost understand him calling since the table had been pretty loose. But again I should have won that hand.

The KJo calling was just plain dumb though.

[Arousal Design]

It's enough to make you wanna cry aint it =)

[eroswebmaster]

Originally Posted by Lenny2

You can't get ahead by much more than 3:1 pre flop.

In both cases the only money in the pot was my all in bet...plug the big and small blinds.
They were getting MAX 1.5 to 1 on their money.

The AQ I can almost understand him calling since the table had been pretty loose. But again I should have won that hand.

The KJo calling was just plain dumb though.

Like I said it depends upon the chip stacks and the stage of the tourney, blinds etc..
He may have thought you were pushing all in with a small pocket pair and then you guys are what 52/48..he was wrong...he may have put you on a complete steal.
Should you put your tourney life online for a coinflip? Not if you have plenty of chips in relation to the blinds..but with you pushing all in instead of just raising this tells me that this was probably not the case because you are pushing with A/Js so if it was the same case for him...*short stacked = below 10x's the BB* then calling all in was probably his best move if the BB is coming right around again for him...I'm not saying that I exactly like this call...just thinking it might have been justified to some degree.

Also in regards to "I should have won that hand." Entitlement is a dirty word in poker. :D

[Furious_Female]

Oh I see, King, Joker, Ace, Jack, Queen... hehe

[MetaMan]

huh?

it isnt a bad beat if you have QQ and he has AQ before the flop.

[chaze]

Poker is much luck, it amazes me that people think skill is that important.

You can be the best player in the world and lose to a newcomer when you luck is bad.

Gambling is a waste of time.

[SomeCreep]

Originally Posted by Lenny2

Bad beats are fucking killing me.

Twice today I'm playing satellites to win a seat in the WSOP.

I get a guy all in with KJo.....I have AJs....he's got 3 cards in the deck that can help him.
Turn is a K...I'm out of the tourney.

5 minutes ago.
I move in with QQ.....get called by AQo.
Again only 3 cards in the deck that can help.
A comes on the flop....I'm out of the tourney.


Thank God I don't play for a living....then it would be really stressful.

Yep, thats why its called gambling. You can play perfect and still lose every time.

[Michael O]

Originally Posted by chaze

Poker is much luck, it amazes me that people think skill is that important.

You can be the best player in the world and lose to a newcomer when you luck is bad.

Gambling is a waste of time.

True but the better player will win in the long run.
Play a noob against a skilled player heads up and the skilled player will win most of the time

[SkyRunner]

I was playing a WSOP-Satellite-tourney at my sports-betting-site a few days ago and even made it to the final table (1st round of 2), when I found out, that it was for the event in New Orleans. Thank god, I lost my AA to a 77. What the hell do I want in New Orleans?

[Praguer]

Originally Posted by Lenny2

Bad beats are fucking killing me.

Twice today I'm playing satellites to win a seat in the WSOP.

I get a guy all in with KJo.....I have AJs....he's got 3 cards in the deck that can help him.
Turn is a K...I'm out of the tourney.

5 minutes ago.
I move in with QQ.....get called by AQo.
Again only 3 cards in the deck that can help.
A comes on the flop....I'm out of the tourney.


Thank God I don't play for a living....then it would be really stressful.

Man, that's what happens when you go all in before the flop. I almost never do it, because no matter how good the odds are in your favor, if you do that enough times, you will eventually get the losing part.

If I play a pot, most of the times I'm going to raise it and I will make always a standard size raise, 3-4 times the BB, regardless of what I'm holding (AA or 7-2 os) That seems to work very well for me.

[Tania]

Originally Posted by Lenny2

Bad beats are fucking killing me.

Twice today I'm playing satellites to win a seat in the WSOP.

I get a guy all in with KJo.....I have AJs....he's got 3 cards in the deck that can help him.
Turn is a K...I'm out of the tourney.

5 minutes ago.
I move in with QQ.....get called by AQo.
Again only 3 cards in the deck that can help.
A comes on the flop....I'm out of the tourney.


Thank God I don't play for a living....then it would be really stressful.

[The Bootyologist]

ouch i hate that

[ITG-Obi]

what a luck.. try again next time

[Wizzo]

Originally Posted by Praguer

Man, that's what happens when you go all in before the flop. I almost never do it, because no matter how good the odds are in your favor, if you do that enough times, you will eventually get the losing part.
.

Exactly, and especially in a tourney...

[fl_prn_str]

Originally Posted by Babagirls

huh??

[eroswebmaster]

Originally Posted by chaze

Poker is much luck, it amazes me that people think skill is that important.

Yes this is exactly the line of thinking I want people like you to continue to follow...chase your two outers, and your gutshots all the way to the river because it's a 50/50 chance right? You're either gonna win or you're gonna lose.

[Snake Doctor]

Originally Posted by MetaMan

huh?

it isnt a bad beat if you have QQ and he has AQ before the flop.

In that hand the QQ is a 3 to 1 favorite. If the AQ wins its called a bad beat....since the worst (starting) hand won.

BTW...poker isn't gambling, its a skill game. This has been proven in a court of law.

Or are Howard Lederer, Phil Ivey, Doyle Brunson etc just the luckiest guys in Vegas every year?

[Snake Doctor]

Originally Posted by Praguer

Man, that's what happens when you go all in before the flop. I almost never do it, because no matter how good the odds are in your favor, if you do that enough times, you will eventually get the losing part.

If I play a pot, most of the times I'm going to raise it and I will make always a standard size raise, 3-4 times the BB, regardless of what I'm holding (AA or 7-2 os) That seems to work very well for me.

True.
This was the first hour of a rebuy tourney....the aggression level was insane.
People going all in with K8 offsuit and getting called by J9.

I knew by going all in with these hands that I would likely get called and be about a 2.5-3 to 1 favorite, which is why I did it.

It just sucks when you get sucked out on like that. Two tourneys in a row.

[nojob]

no poker for me ,I like mini bacharet

[Mack]

Originally Posted by chaze

Poker is much luck, it amazes me that people think skill is that important.

You can be the best player in the world and lose to a newcomer when you luck is bad.

This may hold true, ONCE. But if you are a person who plays on a regular basis skill has everything to do with it. Sure I can lose a random hand here and there to a complete mute or get bounced from a tourney. But over the long haul I will win more than i lose based on skill against weaker players. There is a reason that people can play poker for a living. They have the skill to do so. And for every pro people see on the Television, there are 1000 guys making a living at the 2/4 - 10/20 tables picking up a few hundred dollars a day. They have the ability to do that because of the thought that "Poker is a game of luck". It's like anything else, if you work and educate yourself you will get better at it.

[eroswebmaster]

Originally Posted by Lenny2

True.
This was the first hour of a rebuy tourney....the aggression level was insane.
People going all in with K8 offsuit and getting called by J9.

I knew by going all in with these hands that I would likely get called and be about a 2.5-3 to 1 favorite, which is why I did it.

It just sucks when you get sucked out on like that. Two tourneys in a row.

Ah a rebuy tourney..that changes things completely..during the rebuy period it's a crapshoot and the entire strategy is completely different.

[Praguer]

Originally Posted by Lenny2

True.
This was the first hour of a rebuy tourney....the aggression level was insane.
People going all in with K8 offsuit and getting called by J9.

I knew by going all in with these hands that I would likely get called and be about a 2.5-3 to 1 favorite, which is why I did it.

It just sucks when you get sucked out on like that. Two tourneys in a row.

Rebuys !! Oh, you should have started with that.

Agression, here is the correct play, no matter if you lose, because that's the only way to stack up and put up a fight with the huge stacks that your'll see when the rebuy period is over.

[sweetME]

I didn't get anything you guys are saying. I guess I need to get outta here

[Ray@TastyDollars]

Play a QQ with a double Aop Q up and stroke it with a T. Once you've done that double slam it with a TNA and a quadrupale it with OPP...yea you know me.

Easy enough?

[axelcat]

hang in there