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Old 03-14-2005, 02:25 PM   #1
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iBill IS PAYING it's Top Clients!!

But they are not paying everyone!

So the rest of us just get BENT OVER AND FUCKED without lube!!



iBill can go to hell.
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Old 03-14-2005, 02:27 PM   #2
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wouldn't it be cheaper for them to pay their bottom clients?

anyway, I guess it's something. Better than nothing at all. Still though, sucks royally.
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Old 03-14-2005, 02:28 PM   #3
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Old 03-14-2005, 02:31 PM   #4
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Old 03-14-2005, 02:34 PM   #5
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Where this info is coming from? Or it's your own opinion?
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Old 03-14-2005, 02:45 PM   #6
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he he

Sorry if it's a repost but really like that one !
http://www.ibillsux.com/postal/postal.htm
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Old 03-14-2005, 02:46 PM   #7
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Old 03-14-2005, 03:08 PM   #8
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Old 03-14-2005, 03:11 PM   #9
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Old 03-14-2005, 03:59 PM   #10
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Ask Quiet .... Tough he never post anymore in an Ibill thread ....
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Old 03-14-2005, 04:01 PM   #11
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Old 03-14-2005, 04:10 PM   #12
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If that is the case I wonder why I'm not on the list of payees!!! I haven't been paid EU for almost 2 months now.
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Old 03-14-2005, 04:21 PM   #13
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If that is the case I wonder why I'm not on the list of payees!!! I haven't been paid EU for almost 2 months now.
marc 2 months dont mean shit. some of these guys havent seen a payment in 6 months...
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Old 03-14-2005, 05:46 PM   #14
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Old 03-14-2005, 05:48 PM   #15
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Old 03-14-2005, 05:52 PM   #16
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marc 2 months dont mean shit. some of these guys havent seen a payment in 6 months...
Yeah really, 2 months is nothing compared to the 6 months most of us have been screwed for.
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Old 03-14-2005, 05:55 PM   #17
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http://www.ibillsux.com/postal/postal.htm
That's funny: "Ibill but I don't pay".
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Old 03-14-2005, 05:57 PM   #18
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If you think that the laws that may govern them with the payouts, it is in their best interest to pay the big dollar people first. If they get sued, and have to pay out 3x the money, then they would rather get sued by the guy that they owe 1k and 100k.,
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Why you guys have not got together and filed a class action lawsuit is beyond me.

There are laws that protect you guys.
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Old 03-14-2005, 06:10 PM   #21
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That's the first time I've visited the iBill sux site. Go to the root directory. Cracks me UP.

http://www.ibillsux.com/
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Old 03-14-2005, 06:14 PM   #22
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Old 03-14-2005, 06:19 PM   #23
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If that is the case I wonder why I'm not on the list of payees!!! I haven't been paid EU for almost 2 months now.
Did you sue them?
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Old 03-14-2005, 06:51 PM   #24
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If they dont pay tommorrow somone needs to go bryan nichols on there ass!
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Old 03-14-2005, 06:52 PM   #25
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Why you guys have not got together and filed a class action lawsuit is beyond me.

There are laws that protect you guys.

i think there are quite a few people taking legal action but being instructed not to talk about it...
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Old 03-14-2005, 07:16 PM   #26
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iBill IS PAYING it's Top Clients!!
Sadly this is not anything new. iBill have been using funds and diverting these as they see fit. Some call that fraud.

All will be resolved thru time and some justice served, whether in monetory value or otherwise - irrespective of any demise of iBill.
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Old 03-14-2005, 07:29 PM   #27
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BTW... Here's a sampling of the quality/morals of the human trash behind and involved with iBill/Intercept/IBD/PHSL associations

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff46818.htm

Also... for any webmasters who took "advantage" of gkards - don't trust them with one dime, not because this is just another Galanis/Molina enterprise, - but there are other connections which don't look healthy for your finances.
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Makes sense to pay the people who can do you the most harm to them if they so wanted.
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Old 03-14-2005, 08:42 PM   #29
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marc 2 months dont mean shit. some of these guys havent seen a payment in 6 months...
2 months doesn't mean shit? Well it does when you continue to pay out 6 figures / week with no payment from your major processor. I wouldn't let it go on for 6 months I've taken actions to 'resolve' the issue and will no longer be using their services next week!

Now just because I haven't let it go on 6 months doesn't mean that me not being paid is nothing just because others have not been paid for 6 months.
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Old 03-14-2005, 09:09 PM   #30
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Yeah really, 2 months is nothing compared to the 6 months most of us have been screwed for.
Only got paid once since Sept 15th 2004.
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Old 03-14-2005, 09:10 PM   #31
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Only got paid once since Sept 15th 2004.
MegaPartner_EriC - That is an achievement and just below average for iBill. I know of several webmasters who have not been paid since June 2004 and one who has never been paid since February 2004.

Who says the First Data problem in October was the start of iBill's mismanagement? :-)
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marc 2 months dont mean shit. some of these guys havent seen a payment in 6 months...
I bet Marc's wires are bigger than most of ibills clients combined though.
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I knew I shouldn't have read this thread. Just depresses me everytime....I could buy a nice car with the moneys owed me by iBill.

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I knew I shouldn't have read this thread. Just depresses me everytime....I could buy a nice car with the moneys owed me by iBill.

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2 months doesn't mean shit? Well it does when you continue to pay out 6 figures / week with no payment from your major processor. I wouldn't let it go on for 6 months I've taken actions to 'resolve' the issue and will no longer be using their services next week!

Now just because I haven't let it go on 6 months doesn't mean that me not being paid is nothing just because others have not been paid for 6 months.
will not be using them next week?

I'm surprised you have been this long, to be honest.
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will not be using them next week?

I'm surprised you have been this long, to be honest.
I'm sure many people feel this way I have my reasons, its not mental retardation that I've used them this long, even after going as long as I have with no payment.
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I'm sure marc was not comparing his 2 months lack of payment to anyone elses 6 months. I think he was simply stating that if the 'top clients' were being paid off that his lack of payments were a tipoff that this information may be rumor based rather than factual.... at least thats how I understood it ... my 2 cents
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If you think that the laws that may govern them with the payouts, it is in their best interest to pay the big dollar people first. If they get sued, and have to pay out 3x the money, then they would rather get sued by the guy that they owe 1k and 100k.,
they owe me.. 100K + and i havent seen a dime.. except the token Dec check... now that my rep was fired... i better call.. to see... who has been selected.. to lie to me... when i inquire.. on back pay...
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Old 03-17-2005, 09:11 PM   #42
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Just found out they aren't paying on web900. WTF, they still get their WEB900 money but the wankers are only paying on Gkard shit
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Old 03-17-2005, 09:48 PM   #43
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Old 03-17-2005, 11:57 PM   #44
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And where are all these big clients getting their traffic from that is paying via IBILL?

From webmasters who are not being paid and still sending lots of sign ups on a daily basis.

The big guys rely largely on affiliates, who would see any connection to IBILL as a bad sign. T

Then there is the situation of how long will these big clients hang on to a sinking ship? If we were billing via IBILL (we thought about it but one look at Jason Galanis;s profile told me to stay away) and they had not paid others for one month I would soon be steering payments in a different direction.

Because IBILL will go down and even if you are being paid by them expect them to take at least the last two months and any reserve you have with them. Being paid today is no guaranty of being paid tomorrow.

So who are these big clients still billing via IBILL?
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They owe me over 30k and i have not seen a dime!
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They owe me over 30k and i have not seen a dime!
They owe me roughly the same amount. I can't even get replies to my emails anymore. I knew that they were paying bigger clients all along, but this just makes me want to go ballistic.
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They owe me roughly the same amount. I can't even get replies to my emails anymore. I knew that they were paying bigger clients all along, but this just makes me want to go ballistic.
which bigger clients?? do you see...any ... "join via ibill" .. buttons anywhere on the net??? i dont... maybe im not the biggest client.. but.. they owe me...in "reserves" alone...almost 100k... and im not getting paid.... .. in fact.. i dont even see the.... link.. about.. "promisarry note" anymore...in the merchantinfo/login/login.cfm or any notations.. of past owes... grrrrrr
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Its perfectly logical to do that. The top 20% always produce 80% of the revenues in any deal.
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