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Old 03-19-2005, 11:25 AM   #51
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Old 03-19-2005, 11:21 PM   #52
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Its perfectly logical to do that. The top 20% always produce 80% of the revenues in any deal.
Logocal maybe, but not legal, especially if they collect from my customers to pay them. I may be small but they fucked with the wrong person.
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Old 03-19-2005, 11:28 PM   #53
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which bigger clients?? do you see...any ... "join via ibill" .. buttons anywhere on the net??? i dont... maybe im not the biggest client.. but.. they owe me...in "reserves" alone...almost 100k... and im not getting paid.... .. in fact.. i dont even see the.... link.. about.. "promisarry note" anymore...in the merchantinfo/login/login.cfm or any notations.. of past owes... grrrrrr
Most of the big affiliate programs cascade sales through programs like Nats, so you can never know for certain. The affiliates of these programs are likely being paid as well because they are paid directly by the spopnsor (i.e., Ibill pays everything out to the sponsor, who in turn pays the affiliates).

Look for the people (running webmaster forums) who still take Ibill advertising. If those people run affiliate programs, they are probably being paid. Otherwise, why would they continue to run the adds?
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Old 04-02-2005, 03:14 AM   #54
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The only way anything is going to get accomplished here is if we ban together and nail them. Class action? hell yeah. The adult industry will only survive problems if we all stick together on this. Hey let's not forget that iBill is somehow able to pay its emplyees and top execs...that money is obviously coming from somewhere. As for iBill and their top dogs having agreements to stay on the down-low, that is excelent conspiracy theory, but only provable in court...See where this is leading? You see that damn James Sokolov on the TV all the time suing Rx companies all the time...there's enough money in us here to make it worth his or any other real lawyer's time and efforts. Let's not forget that the money had to go through First data in order to get to iBill's pocket.
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Old 04-02-2005, 04:34 AM   #55
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Its perfectly logical to do that. The top 20% always produce 80% of the revenues in any deal.
sad but true...hence why some bigger dogs never stopped using them...
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Old 04-02-2005, 06:00 AM   #56
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Who are their top clients?
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